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post 1704414831 07-31-2024, 06:35 PM
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My Total & Free Test [pic] (am I fukked?) (doing SARM cycle rn)



Pre-Cycle bloodwork

3 days into LGD cycle
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In b4 gary
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Originally Posted By Getter_done⏩
In b4 gary
I don't know anything about test levels
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Oh lawd
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imagine shutting yourself down with sarms because youre too much of a pussy to just pin LMAO
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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
imagine shutting yourself down with sarms because youre too much of a pussy to just pin LMAO
He can always pin afterward. No big deal.
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Wow....... This explains so much about you.
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
He can always pin afterward. No big deal.
Gonna pin 100% eventually
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Need all test levels…not just free

Free means they’re not bound and can actually turn to estrogen when not bound because receptors arent available

Edit: oh **** you did get both…yea thats low af

If thats during a sarm cycle then that is some chit…if its after it makes sense since you shut yourself down just like test

Not sure why ppl do sarms instead of the real deal…its leas of a result with the same side effects when coming off if you dont pct
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
He can always pin afterward. No big deal.
he would have done that from that start

its over
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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
he would have done that from that start

its over
3 days in

gonna hop on enclo from week 2
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
Need all test levels…not just free

Free means they’re not bound and can actually turn to estrogen when not bound because receptors arent available
Everything is in range expect Glucose (105)

Estradiol <15
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People like the idea of SARMS, but the reality is that they are a form of AAS.
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You're an idiot

SARMs will shut your natural test production down, and they are not going to replace that test - you need to inject test. Never run SARMs without a test base you clown. You were told that in the thread where you got excited about finding a bottle of ligandrol in your fridge or some chit.

What's your SHBG?

FSH/LH numbers are low end of where you want them to be - test is disgusting - free test is disgusting. You're a shell of a man right now.

Just pin test like a big boy and stop fuking around with biohacking supps that haven't been tested or studied extensively.
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Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
Everything is in range expect Glucose (105)

Estradiol <15
3 days isnt enough time to gauge

The quickest is a month depending on half life…i stopped researching sarms but I would assume its the similar to the real deal…how its suspended and half life

If it oral and not injected then 3 days isn’t enough time for anything to process through your system (liver, blood stream, protein bonding, etc) even with test its too fast to test….most likely you literally took bloodwork of your baseline prior to anything
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
You're an idiot

SARMs will shut your natural test production down, and they are not going to replace that test - you need to inject test. Never run SARMs without a test base you clown. You were told that in the thread where you got excited about finding a bottle of ligandrol in your fridge or some chit.

What's your SHBG?

FSH/LH numbers are low end of where you want them to be - test is disgusting - free test is disgusting. You're a shell of a man right now.

Just pin test like a big boy and stop fuking around with biohacking supps that haven't been tested or studied extensively.
As much as this guy is total and complete pg4ggot, he's right. LOL @ pussy-footing around this whole issue and taking SARMS and then claiming natural or some sh*t.

Compounds like Testosterone, deca, anavar, primo, GH, etc, have been studied and used by bodybuilders for decades. We know the side effects. Hair loss, gyno, acne, mood swings, heart enlargement and liver toxicity. These are all basic compounds and Test/DHT derivatives, apart from the deca.

Ostarine has some research behind it, but IIRC that research seems to indicate that it's just a regular steroid when att high enough dosages to be effective as a muscle builder.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
People like the idea of SARMS, but the reality is that they are a form of AAS.
No.
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Originally Posted By Shysty021⏩
3 days isnt enough time to gauge

The quickest is a month depending on half life…i stopped researching sarms but I would assume its the similar to the real deal…how its suspended and half life

If it oral and not injected then 3 days isn’t enough time for anything to process through your system (liver, blood stream, protein bonding, etc) even with test its too fast to test….most likely you literally took bloodwork of your baseline prior to anything
His bloodwork is post ostarine use - there's another thread about this LGD cycle he posted

Kunt shut himself down lmao
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
As much as this guy is total and complete pg4ggot, he's right. LOL @ pussy-footing around this whole issue and taking SARMS and then claiming natural or some sh*t.

Compounds like Testosterone, deca, anavar, primo, GH, etc, have been studied and used by bodybuilders for decades. We know the side effects. Hair loss, gyno, acne, mood swings, heart enlargement and liver toxicity. These are all basic compounds and Test/DHT derivatives, apart from the deca.

Ostarine has some research behind it, but IIRC that research seems to indicate that it's just a regular steroid when att high enough dosages to be effective as a muscle builder.
Yea imo SARMs is pretty much pointless cause its going to shut chit down anyways

Either commit or dont…you will still need to PCT if you want to come off

Prolly be better off pinning HCG than doing SARMs imo
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
No.
Yes, they are. Look at the name. Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator. I question how selective these SARMS are. By definition, testosterone is an androgen receptor modulator. Modulator is just a ligand - a structure that attaches to a receptor and evokes a conformational change in the protein, both on the outside and inside of the cell causing various downstream effects, including gene expression. Testosterone is a ligand.
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
You're an idiot

SARMs will shut your natural test production down, and they are not going to replace that test - you need to inject test. Never run SARMs without a test base you clown. You were told that in the thread where you got excited about finding a bottle of ligandrol in your fridge or some chit.

What's your SHBG?

FSH/LH numbers are low end of where you want them to be - test is disgusting - free test is disgusting. You're a shell of a man right now.

Just pin test like a big boy and stop fuking around with biohacking supps that haven't been tested or studied extensively.
What is wrong with adding Enclo 6.25 EOD starting from week 2?
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
His bloodwork is post ostarine use - there's another thread about this LGD cycle he posted

Kunt shut himself down lmao
I ran 3 week Enclo PCT post-Ostarine.

Libido was fine

Everything felt fine.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Yes, they are. Look at the name. Selective Androgen Receptor Modulator. I question how selective these SARMS are. By definition, testosterone is an androgen receptor modulator. Modulator is just a ligand - a structure that attaches to a receptor. testosterone is a ligand.
Name doesn't mean chit lmao

All steroids have an affinity to bind to androgen receptors - if these things were steroids, they'd be called anabolic androgenic steroids - not SARMs.

They may or may not be selective in how they operate - the closest I need to be to chemically altered anabolic substances is nandrolone
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Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
What is wrong with adding Enclo 6.25 EOD starting from week 2?
Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
I ran 3 week Enclo PCT post-Ostarine.

Libido was fine

Everything felt fine.
So you're wondering what's wrong with running enclomiphene EOD on cycle after using it to PCT off of ostarine...?

You're seriously all over the show and you are going to destroy your natural test production permanently if you keep fuking about like this

I still have no clue why you're so concerned about pinning test and being done with it - it's easier to PCT off, all you're doing is replacing natural test with exogenous test - you're not adding untested or unresearched chemicals which could do fuk knows what to you long term - it's easy to get and use, and a test cycle is cheaper than a fuking SARM cycle.
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
Name doesn't mean chit lmao

All steroids have an affinity to bind to androgen receptors - if these things were steroids, they'd be called anabolic androgenic steroids - not SARMs.

They may or may not be selective in how they operate - the closest I need to be to chemically altered anabolic substances is nandrolone
What do you mean the name doesn't mean anything? In the scientific community, the naming nomenclature means everything. It's a noun, adjective, and verb.

The Androgen Receptor (AR) is activated by a ligand. A ligand is a chemical structure that attaches to the receptor on the outside of the cell, causes a conformational change to the protein, and then sends a signal into the cell through a variety of means. In the case of an AR, once activated on the outside, the inside detaches, becomes what is known as a 'transcription factor' and moves into the nuclear to promote gene expression/regulation.

Whether an AR is activated by testosterone, ostarine, or magic, it will do the same thing once in the cell - a SERM may not technically be a steroid in chemical structure, but it will affect the body the same way.

I have not even looked into it, but because I have a STEM degree, I would assume that portion of the androgen receptors on which the ligand (such as a SERM or Test) binds will vary from cell type to cell type and even location - both in structure, and in amount.

The idea is for the SERM to target muscle cells and bone-cells (osteoblasts), but not prostate cells or hair follicles, for example.

Based on most (almost all) reports from bodybuilders, SERMS are not effective at purely building muscle whilst not affecting overall testosterone production.
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
You're an idiot

SARMs will shut your natural test production down, and they are not going to replace that test - you need to inject test. Never run SARMs without a test base you clown. You were told that in the thread where you got excited about finding a bottle of ligandrol in your fridge or some chit.

What's your SHBG?

FSH/LH numbers are low end of where you want them to be - test is disgusting - free test is disgusting. You're a shell of a man right now.

Just pin test like a big boy and stop fuking around with biohacking supps that haven't been tested or studied extensively.
OP isn't going to listen. Tried several times to tell him.

Just let him fall like the kid who hits his head thinking it is helping his IQ.
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
So you're wondering what's wrong with running enclomiphene EOD on cycle after using it to PCT off of ostarine...?

You're seriously all over the show and you are going to destroy your natural test production permanently if you keep fuking about like this

I still have no clue why you're so concerned about pinning test and being done with it - it's easier to PCT off, all you're doing is replacing natural test with exogenous test - you're not adding untested or unresearched chemicals which could do fuk knows what to you long term - it's easy to get and use, and a test cycle is cheaper than a fuking SARM cycle.
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