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It's idolatry.
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[QUOTE=SwiftTaylor post_id=1704459351]Pls elaborate[/QUOTE]It all falls under fortune telling. Some texts suggest that fortune telling was taught to man by fallen angels. The bible outright condemns any such thing (astrology, fortune telling, divination, sorcery).
It's essentially idolatry - you're putting your faith in the creation rather than the creator. Thinking that patterns in nature are more powerful than the creator of nature.
Satanism it self if pretty much just nature worship, with satan himself being a creation and part of nature - so it falls into that umbrella.
Isaiah 47:
For you have trusted in your wickedness;
You have said, ‘No one sees me’;
Your wisdom and your knowledge have [b]warped you;
And you have said in your heart,
‘I am, and there is no one else besides me.’
11 Therefore evil shall come upon you;
You shall not know from where it arises.
And trouble shall fall upon you;
You will not be able [c]to put it off.
And desolation shall come upon you suddenly,
Which you shall not know.
12 “Stand now with your enchantments
And the multitude of your sorceries,
In which you have labored from your youth—
Perhaps you will be able to profit,
Perhaps you will prevail.
[b]13 You are wearied in the multitude of your counsels;
Let now the[d] astrologers, the stargazers,
And [e]the monthly prognosticators
Stand up and save you
From what shall come upon you.[/b]
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble,
The fire shall burn them;
They shall not deliver themselves
From the power of the flame;
It shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
Nor a fire to sit before!
15 Thus shall they be to you
With whom you have labored,
Your merchants from your youth;
They shall wander each one to his [f]quarter.
No one shall save you.
It's essentially idolatry - you're putting your faith in the creation rather than the creator. Thinking that patterns in nature are more powerful than the creator of nature.
Satanism it self if pretty much just nature worship, with satan himself being a creation and part of nature - so it falls into that umbrella.
Isaiah 47:
For you have trusted in your wickedness;
You have said, ‘No one sees me’;
Your wisdom and your knowledge have [b]warped you;
And you have said in your heart,
‘I am, and there is no one else besides me.’
11 Therefore evil shall come upon you;
You shall not know from where it arises.
And trouble shall fall upon you;
You will not be able [c]to put it off.
And desolation shall come upon you suddenly,
Which you shall not know.
12 “Stand now with your enchantments
And the multitude of your sorceries,
In which you have labored from your youth—
Perhaps you will be able to profit,
Perhaps you will prevail.
[b]13 You are wearied in the multitude of your counsels;
Let now the[d] astrologers, the stargazers,
And [e]the monthly prognosticators
Stand up and save you
From what shall come upon you.[/b]
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble,
The fire shall burn them;
They shall not deliver themselves
From the power of the flame;
It shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
Nor a fire to sit before!
15 Thus shall they be to you
With whom you have labored,
Your merchants from your youth;
They shall wander each one to his [f]quarter.
No one shall save you.
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[QUOTE=WiseOldApe post_id=1704459891]It all falls under fortune telling. Some texts suggest that fortune telling was taught to man by fallen angels. The bible outright condemns any such thing (astrology, fortune telling, divination, sorcery).
It's essentially idolatry - you're putting your faith in the creation rather than the creator. Thinking that patterns in nature are powerful than the creator of nature.
Isaiah 47:
For you have trusted in your wickedness;
You have said, ‘No one sees me’;
Your wisdom and your knowledge have [b]warped you;
And you have said in your heart,
‘I am, and there is no one else besides me.’
11 Therefore evil shall come upon you;
You shall not know from where it arises.
And trouble shall fall upon you;
You will not be able [c]to put it off.
And desolation shall come upon you suddenly,
Which you shall not know.
12 “Stand now with your enchantments
And the multitude of your sorceries,
In which you have labored from your youth—
Perhaps you will be able to profit,
Perhaps you will prevail.
[b]13 You are wearied in the multitude of your counsels;
Let now the[d] astrologers, the stargazers,
And [e]the monthly prognosticators
Stand up and save you
From what shall come upon you.[/b]
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble,
The fire shall burn them;
They shall not deliver themselves
From the power of the flame;
It shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
Nor a fire to sit before!
15 Thus shall they be to you
With whom you have labored,
Your merchants from your youth;
They shall wander each one to his [f]quarter.
No one shall save you.[/QUOTE]
Isaiah is Old Testament.
Old Testament is for jews only.
It's essentially idolatry - you're putting your faith in the creation rather than the creator. Thinking that patterns in nature are powerful than the creator of nature.
Isaiah 47:
For you have trusted in your wickedness;
You have said, ‘No one sees me’;
Your wisdom and your knowledge have [b]warped you;
And you have said in your heart,
‘I am, and there is no one else besides me.’
11 Therefore evil shall come upon you;
You shall not know from where it arises.
And trouble shall fall upon you;
You will not be able [c]to put it off.
And desolation shall come upon you suddenly,
Which you shall not know.
12 “Stand now with your enchantments
And the multitude of your sorceries,
In which you have labored from your youth—
Perhaps you will be able to profit,
Perhaps you will prevail.
[b]13 You are wearied in the multitude of your counsels;
Let now the[d] astrologers, the stargazers,
And [e]the monthly prognosticators
Stand up and save you
From what shall come upon you.[/b]
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble,
The fire shall burn them;
They shall not deliver themselves
From the power of the flame;
It shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
Nor a fire to sit before!
15 Thus shall they be to you
With whom you have labored,
Your merchants from your youth;
They shall wander each one to his [f]quarter.
No one shall save you.[/QUOTE]
Isaiah is Old Testament.
Old Testament is for jews only.
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Originally Posted By SwiftTaylor⏩
No it's not - that's blasphemy and heresy.Isaiah is Old Testament.
Old Testament is for jews only.
Old Testament is for jews only.
God isn't for one nation, but for all people, hence why God came to redeem mankind as Jesus Christ.
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[QUOTE=WiseOldApe post_id=1704459891]It all falls under fortune telling. Some texts suggest that fortune telling was taught to man by fallen angels. The bible outright condemns any such thing (astrology, fortune telling, divination, sorcery).
It's essentially idolatry - you're putting your faith in the creation rather than the creator. Thinking that patterns in nature are more powerful than the creator of nature.
Satanism it self if pretty much just nature worship, with satan himself being a creation and part of nature - so it falls into that umbrella.
Isaiah 47:
For you have trusted in your wickedness;
You have said, ‘No one sees me’;
Your wisdom and your knowledge have [b]warped you;
And you have said in your heart,
‘I am, and there is no one else besides me.’
11 Therefore evil shall come upon you;
You shall not know from where it arises.
And trouble shall fall upon you;
You will not be able [c]to put it off.
And desolation shall come upon you suddenly,
Which you shall not know.
12 “Stand now with your enchantments
And the multitude of your sorceries,
In which you have labored from your youth—
Perhaps you will be able to profit,
Perhaps you will prevail.
[b]13 You are wearied in the multitude of your counsels;
Let now the[d] astrologers, the stargazers,
And [e]the monthly prognosticators
Stand up and save you
From what shall come upon you.[/b]
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble,
The fire shall burn them;
They shall not deliver themselves
From the power of the flame;
It shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
Nor a fire to sit before!
15 Thus shall they be to you
With whom you have labored,
Your merchants from your youth;
They shall wander each one to his [f]quarter.
No one shall save you.[/QUOTE]
"- you're putting your faith in the creation rather than the creator. Thinking that patterns in nature are powerful than the creator of nature."
No.
For me, astrology, numerology, etc. is just information and knowledge
It's essentially idolatry - you're putting your faith in the creation rather than the creator. Thinking that patterns in nature are more powerful than the creator of nature.
Satanism it self if pretty much just nature worship, with satan himself being a creation and part of nature - so it falls into that umbrella.
Isaiah 47:
For you have trusted in your wickedness;
You have said, ‘No one sees me’;
Your wisdom and your knowledge have [b]warped you;
And you have said in your heart,
‘I am, and there is no one else besides me.’
11 Therefore evil shall come upon you;
You shall not know from where it arises.
And trouble shall fall upon you;
You will not be able [c]to put it off.
And desolation shall come upon you suddenly,
Which you shall not know.
12 “Stand now with your enchantments
And the multitude of your sorceries,
In which you have labored from your youth—
Perhaps you will be able to profit,
Perhaps you will prevail.
[b]13 You are wearied in the multitude of your counsels;
Let now the[d] astrologers, the stargazers,
And [e]the monthly prognosticators
Stand up and save you
From what shall come upon you.[/b]
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble,
The fire shall burn them;
They shall not deliver themselves
From the power of the flame;
It shall not be a coal to be warmed by,
Nor a fire to sit before!
15 Thus shall they be to you
With whom you have labored,
Your merchants from your youth;
They shall wander each one to his [f]quarter.
No one shall save you.[/QUOTE]
"- you're putting your faith in the creation rather than the creator. Thinking that patterns in nature are powerful than the creator of nature."
No.
For me, astrology, numerology, etc. is just information and knowledge
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Old Testament Law was for jews because jews can't behave.No it's not - that's blasphemy and heresy.
God isn't for one nation, but for all people, hence why God came to redeem mankind as Jesus Christ.
God isn't for one nation, but for all people, hence why God came to redeem mankind as Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is New Testament
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Originally Posted By TerranFirebat⏩
Why doesn't he predict the lottery numbers?Yea it's legit
I'm no expert in that field but I've read thru all my signs/numbers and they define me perfectly
For the people that say "it's just a bunch of generalizations that fit everyone bro!!!", i'll read other signs/numbers that aren't mine and know immediately that they don't fit me. Yea there is overlap in some instances but well u can say most humans are practically the same anyways.
I've been watching this guy "minnow pond tarot" on youtube and he predicts a whole lotta shiet about my future and they actually do come true srs
I'm no expert in that field but I've read thru all my signs/numbers and they define me perfectly
For the people that say "it's just a bunch of generalizations that fit everyone bro!!!", i'll read other signs/numbers that aren't mine and know immediately that they don't fit me. Yea there is overlap in some instances but well u can say most humans are practically the same anyways.
I've been watching this guy "minnow pond tarot" on youtube and he predicts a whole lotta shiet about my future and they actually do come true srs
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Originally Posted By TerranFirebat⏩
Why is still on youtube and not in his billion dollar mansion?how do u know he didnt?
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Originally Posted By SwiftTaylor⏩
And what will you do with that knowledge anyway? It means nothing in day to day life."- you're putting your faith in the creation rather than the creator. Thinking that patterns in nature are powerful than the creator of nature."
No.
For me, astrology, numerology, etc. is just information and knowledge
No.
For me, astrology, numerology, etc. is just information and knowledge
Originally Posted By SwiftTaylor⏩
Someone hasn't read the New Testament.Old Testament Law was for jews because jews can't behave.
Jesus Christ is New Testament
Jesus Christ is New Testament
Originally Posted By TerranFirebat⏩
Even if that were true, how will it benefit you to know? I speak as somebody who at one point has psychic abilities and still does to some degree. It means nothing for living your day to day life. Even if you were able to read people's minds, it doesn't actually mean anything in the real world.Yea it's legit
I'm no expert in that field but I've read thru all my signs/numbers and they define me perfectly
For the people that say "it's just a bunch of generalizations that fit everyone bro!!!", i'll read other signs/numbers that aren't mine and know immediately that they don't fit me. Yea there is overlap in some instances but well u can say most humans are practically the same anyways.
I've been watching this guy "minnow pond tarot" on youtube and he predicts a whole lotta shiet about my future and they actually do come true srs
I'm no expert in that field but I've read thru all my signs/numbers and they define me perfectly
For the people that say "it's just a bunch of generalizations that fit everyone bro!!!", i'll read other signs/numbers that aren't mine and know immediately that they don't fit me. Yea there is overlap in some instances but well u can say most humans are practically the same anyways.
I've been watching this guy "minnow pond tarot" on youtube and he predicts a whole lotta shiet about my future and they actually do come true srs
Otherwise, most humans have a pretty decent intuition to know when something is off about someone or something.
Either way, it's always God in control, so you can't really do anything anyway except live your life.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Are you ashamed of this or something?I speak as somebody who at one point has psychic abilities and still does to some degree.
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Yesterday I was at a mud bogging event in Alabama, when one burly looking spectator asked his friend "Do you think we've been wrong about Kamala?" His friend angrily shouted "n*gger" and slammed down his muffin. A voice could be heard saying "That's not cool man, I'm voting for Kamala", followed by a chorus of "yeah, it's the right thing to do" from others in the crowd. Definite vibe change around here.
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So I make a thread about numerology and gematria
and WiseOldApe starts wacking me with the Old Testament
Meanwhile, WiseOldApe says he has psychic abilities
and WiseOldApe starts wacking me with the Old Testament
Meanwhile, WiseOldApe says he has psychic abilities
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Originally Posted By SwiftTaylor⏩
Yes, and I did not ask for them. They happened to me. It's gotten better since I've become a Christian, but they used to be full blown before.So I make a thread about numerology and gematria
and WiseOldApe starts wacking me with the Old Testament
Meanwhile, WiseOldApe says he has psychic abilities
and WiseOldApe starts wacking me with the Old Testament
Meanwhile, WiseOldApe says he has psychic abilities
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Originally Posted By TerranFirebat⏩
WiseOldApe in the thread: "Don't be a witch!!!!"lmfao
Meanwhile, WiseOldApe is a witch
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
What psychic abilities do you have?Yes, and I did not ask for them. They happened to me. It's gotten better since I've become a Christian, but they used to be full blown before.
Dude, it's a gift.
You shouldn't be ashamed of it.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Dude, why would you want to suppress your psychic abilities?Yes, and I did not ask for them. They happened to me. It's gotten better since I've become a Christian, but they used to be full blown before.
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Originally Posted By SwiftTaylor⏩
That's the thing - sadly I've come to learn that those psychic abilities were and are of demonic origin. I still have them to an extent, which concerns me. I never asked for this, it happened to me.Dude, why would you want to suppress your psychic abilities?
All that LGBTQRSTUV+- stuff is demonic also - demonic spirits are always attacking humans and variations in sexuality are a symptom, but no one really knows.
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Originally Posted By explosiveMidget⏩
Yeah I dunno about that - I've seen testimonies of people who had psychic abilities (clairvoyance, aura reading, etc) for as long as they remember and then it turns out their family took them to a witch doctor, shaman, or something at some point in their childhood, etc.Ur not wrong.
I don't think all psychic abilities are demonic though. My telepathic powers are unbelievable I could always read a person like a book and I don't think that's demonic but an instinct.
I don't think all psychic abilities are demonic though. My telepathic powers are unbelievable I could always read a person like a book and I don't think that's demonic but an instinct.
You can never underestimate satan and his demons - they are very very sneaky. Just look at all the homosexuality going on these days.
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