Y" ok what are we gonna do about it??? "

Yup . Was listening to a dating coach and he mentioned when he has dudes like Op consult him..he immediately takes the stance of " ok what are we gonna do about it??? "

It's about time op realizes that wallowing in this type of dispear is pointless and self sobatizing

It is. Unfortunately I can hardly blame him, especially considering how rampant red/blackpill stuff is online, and I'm guessing he participates in those conversations plenty both here on misc as well as outside of the misc. It gets harder and harder to break out of that the longer you're in it.

It's also self-serving for his ego. When someone's surrendered to a belief for so long, going the other direction is a complete violation of their conscious, massive cognitive dissonance. so it feels dishonest/disingenous. Whether that belief is true or not is neither here nor there, the attitude/mentality needed to deal with that perception (whether improving the situation or working around it) gets further and further out of reach. And even when the right mentality is there, it's still easier to not try and fail to protect your own ego, than to try and have to deal with the possibility that even for all your efforts you still may need to do more, or may not be enough.

Life is unfair, all we can do is play the hand we're dealt the best we can. Unfortunately, not everyone will end up successful, rich, loved, with a family, etc. But do you take that knowledge and resign yourself to a lifetime of disappointment? Or do you do what you can to find what makes you happy and focus on those things?

you cant do anything about the issue we are discussing. You cant force women to be attracted to men they are not attracted to.

The thread title is misleading. Otaku was FA in his 20s and is now killing it apparently. Pondus says he was FA til 24. I could cite my case. So what you mean is that it's hopeless for a segment of blackpill incels? OK, won't disagree with that.

Otaku had a bodycount of like 15 in his 20s. His thing was he could only get big bishes or something.

obviously some people do better later, its just not a general rule like its claimed to be and has nothing to do with age.

I'll start from the end and work backwards.

to your closing point, I get that. I used to be the same regarding pitbulls on the misc. eventually you gotta realize it's fruitless effort trying to change most peoples minds, since they're gonna trust their own opinions and experience over some random on the internet. I think you could do well to work on figuring out how and where best to spend your energy...just my 2 cents, I could be entirely wrong.

As for the red/blackpill stuff blowing up and proving that it is growing...I will agree to that, with a caveat. Lets look at the trans movement...it has blown up exponentially year after year and continues to be forced down our throat...would you say that it's indicative that there are thousands and thousands more actual legitimate trans people and that it's actually becoming the reality, or rather that it's a very vocal minority, championed by other minorities, and might even be more of an escape/attention seeking thing than their actual issue/affliction/problem? I'm inclined to say the latter, considering how often we see stories about trans people regretting their transition, re-transitioning back, remaining depressed/feeling out of place, etc. But then I'm sure most trans activists would say those people are the minority too.

Perspective is LARGELY influenced not only by personal experience but also what you surround yourself with.

not to say that you are complaining as an escape/to seek attention. just trying to put forth a similar comparison, and maybe help you understand how some of the people who can't possibly understand your perspective may be viewing it.

I'll ask again directly this time, do you have any hobbies, friends, family, etc, any sort of network to draw from? If not, that is severely hindering you.

As far as why I think redbill/blackpill/incel stuff has blown up...because it's an easy route for sympathy, while also helping people feel like it isn't entirely their own fault. While I full acknowledge there are completely undateable dudes, i also think (and have experienced personally) that a lot of people are self-sabotaging, either consciously or not. It's a lot easier for people to seek out sympathizers particularly in this day and age, then it is for people to take the steps to improve and change. It's a lot easier to say "fukin chad strikes again" than it is to work out consistently, eat right, force yourself to be social, etc. And I'm not even saying that to blame people for their situations, just is how it is.

Again, not saying that is the case for you...just as a generality.

He also claimed that there were no women attracted to him and that it was all pointless. Until he got a girlfriend and then went quiet. Much like yourself. Downplay the successes and re-write where necessary to fit the narrative.

Had BBMG been born White I promise you he'd have at least an Asian gf by now.

I'm peaking right now so idk what you're talking about. I'm 34. If you have a good career you will peak at around 30-35 SRS.

Whites still living in this pajeet's peabrain rent free.

Is this really how you want to spend your life? Seething on an internet forum that you have to pay for a woman to touch you? JFL, 100% ded srs.

This is bodybuilding.com - imagine coming here to be a little bitch. This isn't Hello Kitty Island Adventure. You should know that this is a gym locker room where us *haves* talk about our great lives and compare notes in support of one another. People like you are...well...certainly not *haves*.

Red/black pill ideology isn’t “true”, there are kernels of truth in female nature that those ideologies have exaggerated and hyper-simplified.

Once you get real world experience and get to know more women that don’t conform to their ideas, you’ll recognize how extremely contrived it is.

Another huge signal it’s a closed minded cult is the fact it has terms like NAWALT to quickly dismiss challenges. Most religions/cults have these concepts.

There are women in NYC who are "black pilled" in their own minds, since they are:

1) significantly better educated than their male counterparts;
2) earn significantly more - I have posted data on this, single women earn more than single men in major cities in the USA, this changes after marriage; and
3) Don't want to settle for someone like NOstradamus - someone who copes online that everyone is as much of a loser as he is.

Or that goldencuck retard who thought that marrying a Chinese woman was appropriate but that he had to "pay prostitutes" to meet his sexual needs and that this was "normal" all while having a huge mortgage on a tiny apartment in Toronto. Pretty sure Anachron ethered him.

Posters like you, who are: 1) financially successful; 2) take care of yourself (no homo); and 3) have standards, are exactly the sort of person that triggered the ever-living chit out of SilenceSpeaks. But you're not representative of the average Miscer. Many are...well...*have nots*

Aren't you living proof that blackpill is absolutely correct?

You're a multimillionaire, yet at 5'6, women would rather date a broke 6'2 guy over you any day.

Not hating,just keeping it real.

Pictures?

Whites still living in this pajeet's peabrain rent free.

Is this really how you want to spend your life? Seething on an internet forum that you have to pay for a woman to touch you? JFL, 100% ded srs.

This is bodybuilding.com - imagine coming here to be a little bitch. This isn't Hello Kitty Island Adventure. You should know that this is a gym locker room where us *haves* talk about our great lives and compare notes in support of one another. People like you are...well...certainly not *haves*.

Are you attracted to women over 30?

A 35-year-old guy is not "peaking" unless you consider dating older women to be your goal.

And no, you are not Leo or Clooney. You aren't going to attract women 10 years younger than you, and even if you did, when you reach that age it really feels weird to be around someone that much younger.

A man's dating peak is in his 20s. Full stop. Not up for debate. That is the only time in your life where you will be able to date young beautiful women in their physical prime (18-24) who haven't been ran through and ruined. If you wait until your 30's, it's going to be single moms, divorced women, and the leftovers that other guys have passed over.

Red/black pill ideology isn’t “true”, there are kernels of truth in female nature that those ideologies have exaggerated and hyper-simplified.

Once you get real world experience and get to know more women that don’t conform to their ideas, you’ll recognize how extremely contrived it is.

Another huge signal it’s a closed minded cult is the fact it has terms like NAWALT to quickly dismiss challenges. Most religions/cults have these concepts.

The core of it is that women have high standards, what they're attracted to is essentially biologically programmed and if you dont have it its over.

and thats all true. Men who dont make the cut, especially physically are out of the game. Stop gaslighting us

The core of it is that women have high standards, what they're attracted to is essentially biologically programmed and if you dont have it its over.

and thats all true. Men who dont make the cut, especially physically are out of the game. Stop gaslighting us

Yeah after almost 30 pages of the same sh!t over and over, I think its time to change the subject..
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What are you talking about? I feel like this is the first time OP has ever addressed this issue with the misc.

There's no gaslighting, you're just ignoring the fact that there's high variation in female traits and preferences, just like in males.

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If I were to lose my relationship and be single again I have 0 doubts I could date girls in the 18-24 range. Even though I'm in my late 30s. If I wanted to cheat with girls in that age range or even cultivate a side-chick or two. It would be relatively simple.

Why on dating apps do 80% of the likes go to the top 10ish% of men?

This has been found over and over and over and over again. When left to their own devices women are all attracted to the same things and the same guys.

To the extent there is variations its basically types of chads/tyrones. Some like gym jacked chad, some like chad with glasses , some like thug tyrone, some like athlete tyrone

etc etc etc.

Why on dating apps do 80% of the likes go to the top 10ish% of men?

This has been found over and over and over and over again. When left to their own devices women are all attracted to the same things and the same guys.

To the extent there is variations its basically types of chads/tyrones. Some like gym jacked chad, some like chad with glasses , some like thug tyrone, some like athlete tyrone

etc etc etc.