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post 1704967311 08-13-2024, 12:16 PM
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How much protein does an adult male need?

Inspired by "I'm giving up whey" -- how much protein does an adult human actually need? Let's say someone that is exercising a few days per week to stay healthy but not suffering from BDD and looking to change their look by way way of musculature. How much would be too little protein? What would the symptoms be?
post 1704967321 08-13-2024, 12:16 PM
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150
post 1704967361 08-13-2024, 12:18 PM
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More than you can afford, pal
Not in the AM
post 1704967401 08-13-2024, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17
More than you can afford, pal
Theres no need for your input i already answered his question.
post 1704967451 08-13-2024, 12:19 PM
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Yes
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post 1704967481 08-13-2024, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Getter_done
150
150 proteins?
post 1704967491 08-13-2024, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
150 proteins?
Yes saar
post 1704967531 08-13-2024, 12:21 PM
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Less than you think.
post 1704967591 08-13-2024, 12:22 PM
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Probably as little as 20-30 grams of protein per day. If you don't mind being skinny-fat, weak, and frail. If you want to be reasonably muscular/athletic. Probably around 100G of protein per day would suffice.
post 1704967631 08-13-2024, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
Inspired by "I'm giving up whey" -- how much protein does an adult human actually need? Let's say someone that is exercising a few days per week to stay healthy but not suffering from BDD and looking to change their look by way way of musculature. How much would be too little protein? What would the symptoms be?
The number has gone down over the years. Hitting 0.82g/lb is the modern take and can be well argued.
post 1704967651 08-13-2024, 12:24 PM
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I don't think there is any magic number as everyone is different. I don't even do 1g per lb of bodyweight on working days, as 225g of protein is not easy to fit in unless you want to gorge on unhealthy shakes. I don't need anywhere near that much anyway.
Cook the man some eggs!
post 1704967681 08-13-2024, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By guest89
Probably as little as 20-30 grams of protein per day. If you don't mind being skinny-fat, weak, and frail. If you want to be reasonably muscular/athletic. Probably around 100G of protein per day would suffice.
but you're getting into looks stuff...i'm talking to be healthy. the person exercises so i'm thinking not too much fat.
post 1704967711 08-13-2024, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By johnsorrow
The number has gone down over the years. Hitting 0.82g/lb is the modern take and can be well argued.
there will be health problems at less than 0.82/lb?
post 1704967831 08-13-2024, 12:28 PM
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for basic survival about 50-60g, but for athletic performance its usually somewhere between 1.1-1.8g protein/kg of body weight (depending on the sport).
post 1704967861 08-13-2024, 12:28 PM
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post 1704967881 08-13-2024, 12:29 PM
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bout 350


(seriously misc it took this long?)
post 1704968331 08-13-2024, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
there will be health problems at less than 0.82/lb?
Lol no of course not! 0.82g/lb is for optimal muscle building for natties.
post 1704968381 08-13-2024, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Maestro
for basic survival about 50-60g, but for athletic performance it's usually somewhere between 1.1-1.8g protein/kg of body weight (depending on the sport).
so at 50-60 you would only be doing "basic" surviving? exercising a times a week wouldn't really be "athletic performance" so you'd be good on basic levels?
post 1704968411 08-13-2024, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By johnsorrow
Lol no of course not! 0.82g/lb is for optimal muscle building for natties.
the muscle you naturally have ain't enough?
post 1704968441 08-13-2024, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
the muscle you naturally have ain't enough?
at that age you gotta step it up
post 1704968611 08-13-2024, 12:44 PM
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post 1704968621 08-13-2024, 12:44 PM
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Sooooo for those getting 20-30 grams a day what the fuk other foods are you eating to increase your caloric intake that are actually healthy for you, both muscular and overall physiology?
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post 1704968821 08-13-2024, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
the muscle you naturally have ain't enough?
Healthy naturals should always try to minimize muscle loss. ALWAYS. Regardless off your fitness level.
post 1704969001 08-13-2024, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By johnsorrow
Healthy naturals should always try to minimize muscle loss. ALWAYS. Regardless off your fitness level.
how much protein does it take to main natural/healthy levels of muscle tissue? let's say an average guy with a healthy bmi -- say 5'9/165lbs -- exercises 2-3 times a week for an hour.
post 1704969231 08-13-2024, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
but you're getting into looks stuff...i'm talking to be healthy. the person exercises so i'm thinking not too much fat.
I don't get what you are asking. Looks is a good indicator of health.

I know someone that's 60 years old that averages around 20-30G of protein per day. She mainly eats cereal and milk, jello and ice-cream. Cuts her appetite with diet coke and cigs. She's been eating like that around 30-35 years. She's weak/frail and body looks like ****. But she's not exactly dying due to malnutrition.


In order to just survive and be skinny/skinny fat. You don't need to eat a drastic amount of calories or protein.


Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
there will be health problems at less than 0.82/lb?
No. That would be for optimal health/people being moderately muscular.

Most people won't get any benefit out of eating more protein then that.
post 1704969551 08-13-2024, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
how much protein does it take to main natural/healthy levels of muscle tissue? let's say an average guy with a healthy bmi -- say 5'9/165lbs -- exercises 2-3 times a week for an hour.
Difficult to say. Probably less than 0.82g/lb. Also likely depends if you are in caloric deficit, surplus or maintaining. ”Excercise” is really broad. For muscle sparing/building you need a stimulus. And we aint talking from golfing bro.
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Originally Posted By guest89
I don't get what you are asking. Looks is a good indicator of health.

I know someone that's 60 years old that averages around 20-30G of protein per day. She mainly eats cereal and milk, jello and ice-cream. Cuts her appetite with diet coke and cigs. She's been eating like that around 30-35 years. She's weak/frail and body looks like ****. But she's not exactly dying due to malnutrition.


In order to just survive and be skinny/skinny fat. You don't need to eat a drastic amount of calories or protein.






No. That would be for optimal health/people being moderately muscular.

Most people won't get any benefit out of eating more protein than that.
"looking frail" isn't some indication of being unhealthy by itself unless someone is just severely underweight/no energy, etc
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
"looking frail" isn't some indication of being unhealthy by itself unless someone is just severely underweight/no energy, etc
There is a lot of evidence that points to more muscular older people are healthier, more mobile, and live longer with a better quality of life. The woman I'm referring to is 60 but she looks like the sister of her mother. Her mother is 24 years older then her. Yet she's stronger, more active, more vibrant, etc. She's 60 but there is a pretty good chance she dies 'of natural causes' before her mother does. So as you age 'looking frail' and being malnourished can actually be a pretty good indicator of your health.




It doesn't matter when you're young as much. As you age it matters more. Yes, you can literally look at old people are have a good idea of their health.
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Originally Posted By guest89
There is a lot of evidence that points to more muscular older people are healthier, more mobile, and live longer with a better quality of life. The woman I'm referring to is 60 but she looks like the sister of her mother. Her mother is 24 years older then her. Yet she's stronger, more active, more vibrant, etc. She's 60 but there is a pretty good chance she dies 'of natural causes' before her mother does. So as you age 'looking frail' and being malnourished can actually be a pretty good indicator of your health.




It doesn't matter when you're young as much. As you age it matters more. Yes, you can literally look at old people are have a good idea of their health.
where's the research? how do little 90lb women in japan live to 110 years old? you're describing someone that likely doesn't exercise at all, eats crap and smokes cigs.
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"5'9/165lbs -- exercises 2-3 times a week"

.8x165= not much

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