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What percentage of women in modern world are objectively marriage material?
02-03-2026, 01:26 PM
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What percentage of women in modern world are objectively marriage material?
I've heard estimates of as low as 3-5%. No tats, no debt, not overweight/obese, no chronic psychological issues, never a whore, good parents, no whore friends, morals/values not shaped by modern culture, would make a good mother, not liberal, etc, etc.
At first I thought 3-5% was just a salty number from incels, but when you go sorta line by line it may actually be closer to 3%.
I mean just take a few of those:
- ~60-70% of women are or lean liberal. That leaves 30-40%.
- Of those 30-40%, probably have half have tattoos so overall you're at what a pool of less than 20% of women.
- Now throw on "not obese" and you're at less than 10%.
Now throw in the other things and I believe there's no way that more than 5% of women are suitable for marriage in the traditional sense. Like no way.
At first I thought 3-5% was just a salty number from incels, but when you go sorta line by line it may actually be closer to 3%.
I mean just take a few of those:
- ~60-70% of women are or lean liberal. That leaves 30-40%.
- Of those 30-40%, probably have half have tattoos so overall you're at what a pool of less than 20% of women.
- Now throw on "not obese" and you're at less than 10%.
Now throw in the other things and I believe there's no way that more than 5% of women are suitable for marriage in the traditional sense. Like no way.
02-03-2026, 01:30 PM
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If you can get them before like age 22-23, I'd say like 75% are marriage material. But the further they get from that age, it goes downhill quickly.
02-03-2026, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Might be right brother. Maybe even a little younger...like college freshmen or sophomore age.
If you can get them before like age 22-23, I'd say like 75% are marriage material. But the further they get from that age, it goes downhill quickly.
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Originally Posted By edwardhaskell⏩
There's semantics to all this stuff. Just votes Democrat as opposed to a purple haired tranny supporter are two different things. A couple of small tattoos of a butterfly on the back of her shoulder is very different from a sleeve or a big tramp stamp. What does never a whore mean? 8 bodies? 3? Under 20? She could even be not obese but have terrible boobs or a flat ass or something like that.
I've heard estimates of as low as 3-5%. No tats, no debt, not overweight/obese, no chronic psychological issues, never a whore, good parents, no whore friends, morals/values not shaped by modern culture, would make a good mother, not liberal, etc, etc.
At first I thought 3-5% was just a salty number from incels, but when you go sorta line by line it may actually be closer to 3%.
I mean just take a few of those:
- ~60-70% of women are or lean liberal. That leaves 30-40%.
- Of those 30-40%, probably have half have tattoos so overall you're at what a pool of less than 20% of women.
- Now throw on "not obese" and you're at less than 10%.
Now throw in the other things and I believe there's no way that more than 5% of women are suitable for marriage in the traditional sense. Like no way.
At first I thought 3-5% was just a salty number from incels, but when you go sorta line by line it may actually be closer to 3%.
I mean just take a few of those:
- ~60-70% of women are or lean liberal. That leaves 30-40%.
- Of those 30-40%, probably have half have tattoos so overall you're at what a pool of less than 20% of women.
- Now throw on "not obese" and you're at less than 10%.
Now throw in the other things and I believe there's no way that more than 5% of women are suitable for marriage in the traditional sense. Like no way.
No wonder there's so many incels on this board.
02-03-2026, 01:41 PM
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Sorry you got dumped buddy. Try not to take it personally, a lot of women would feel insecure dating man with your physique - especially when they're retired in their 20s.
02-03-2026, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
And this is how men start rationalizing (simps) marriage to women that aren't suitable for marriage.
There's semantics to all this stuff. Just votes Democrat as opposed to a purple haired tranny supporter are two different things. A couple of small tattoos of a butterfly on the back of her shoulder is very different from a sleeve or a big tramp stamp. What does never a whore mean? 8 bodies? 3? Under 20? She could even be not obese but have terrible boobs or a flat ass or something like that.
No wonder there's so many incels on this board.
No wonder there's so many incels on this board.
But, but, but, only one of friends is a whore and she doesn't even talk to her much....and, and, and, she fooked 5 dudes, but 2 of those were when she was in college. ๐๐
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02-03-2026, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscDetective⏩
Stop simping.
Sorry you got dumped buddy. Try not to take it personally, a lot of women would feel insecure dating man with your physique - especially when they're retired in their 20s.
The worst simps are the men that measure themselves or other men in the perceived value women find in them. This is core concept of simp culture and largely responsible for modern day clown world that allowed women to not be marriage material. Essentially men measuring their life based on how happy they can make women.
Think about what you just did -- your brain went into woman mode and you "analyzed" the body of another man from a female perspective.
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Not all women are like that and are you as a man marriage material? quick question are you in a relationship right now? probably not? when was the last time if at all, was your last relationship. yeah there's a lot of trash women out there but not all of them.. this sounds like cope for why your bad with women.
in b4 im a simp.
in b4 im a simp.
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02-03-2026, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By p7nk⏩
What in tarnation kind of straw man is this.
Not all women are like that and are you as a man marriage material? quick question are you in a relationship right now? probably not? when was the last time if at all, was your last relationship. yeah there's a lot of trash women out there but not all of them.. this sounds like cope for why your bad with women.
in b4 im a simp.
in b4 im a simp.
"Not all women are like that" was pointed out with the 3-5% figure.
Let me guess -- you know that devoting your life to one of the 95-97% that aren't marriage material is the best you can expect in life so you've decided to make the best of it and criticize any man that dares to say something sideways about your "queen"?
And once again we see the simps circling the wagon to measure up other men based on what perceived value women have of them. This is literally the sedition of simping.
02-03-2026, 02:19 PM
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It's hard to quantify marriage material because different men have different standards for what's acceptable.
Pretty much every woman is disloyal and Machiavellian, that's just their nature. You're not going to find a "good" woman, what passes for finding a "good" woman is being higher value than her, then she'll treat you with respect. What a "bad" woman is is a woman who's such a crazy bitch that she won't even treat a man who's higher value than her with respect.
That's probably where the line can be drawn for the minimal standard for marriage material or acceptable to date in general, if she at least treats you well if you're higher value than her. The thing is though women's standards are super delusional these days so even "good" women can appear like "bad" women because a 6/10 woman for example won't consider a man higher value than her unless he's 8/10 or above and she'll treat a 7/10 man like shit even though he's still better than her.
Pretty much every woman is disloyal and Machiavellian, that's just their nature. You're not going to find a "good" woman, what passes for finding a "good" woman is being higher value than her, then she'll treat you with respect. What a "bad" woman is is a woman who's such a crazy bitch that she won't even treat a man who's higher value than her with respect.
That's probably where the line can be drawn for the minimal standard for marriage material or acceptable to date in general, if she at least treats you well if you're higher value than her. The thing is though women's standards are super delusional these days so even "good" women can appear like "bad" women because a 6/10 woman for example won't consider a man higher value than her unless he's 8/10 or above and she'll treat a 7/10 man like shit even though he's still better than her.
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02-03-2026, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
The basic precept is she's 100% loyal ride or die (til death do us part, wouldn't even entertain chad) and never denies you sex unless she's got a legit reason (sick etc) that alone puts it in the 3-5% range
Everyone has different standards, whats marriage material to you could be the opposite for someone else it's an impossible question to answer.
02-03-2026, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
And this is where the bleeding heart men allowed things to go off the rails. The loss of standards and conforming to whatever women want in order to hopefully get their love and attention. This is why you have men throwing themselves at degenerate average women while the overall quality of women continues to crater.
Everyone has different standards, whats marriage material to you could be the opposite for someone else it's an impossible question to answer.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
You're literally Canadian. You can hold this L. Your government literally voted liberal because Trump was mean to you lmao
There's semantics to all this stuff. Just votes Democrat as opposed to a purple haired tranny supporter are two different things. A couple of small tattoos of a butterfly on the back of her shoulder is very different from a sleeve or a big tramp stamp. What does never a whore mean? 8 bodies? 3? Under 20? She could even be not obese but have terrible boobs or a flat ass or something like that.
No wonder there's so many incels on this board.
No wonder there's so many incels on this board.
I'm so glad I'm a Indian that lives in America. Canada is somehow more left-wing than America yet more racist against Indians lmao.
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02-03-2026, 02:31 PM
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Another thread where OP asks a "question" to draw people in and then proceeds to lecture them rather than listen.
02-03-2026, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscDetective⏩
I'm simply looking for possible logical responses as to why the percentage of "marriage material" women is higher than 3-5%.
Another thread where OP asks a "question" to draw people in and then proceeds to lecture them about how much smarter he is.
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
I love Monster0Ultra, but unfortunately both of us are Sub5 in the eyes of women by default since women hate Indian and Asian men
It's hard to quantify marriage material because different men have different standards for what's acceptable.
Pretty much every woman is disloyal and Machiavellian, that's just their nature. You're not going to find a "good" woman, what passes for finding a "good" woman is being higher value than her, then she'll treat you with respect. What a "bad" woman is is a woman who's such a crazy bitch that she won't even treat a man who's higher value than her with respect.
That's probably where the line can be drawn for the minimal standard for marriage material or acceptable to date in general, if she at least treats you well if you're higher value than her. The thing is though women's standards are super delusional these days so even "good" women can appear like "bad" women because a 6/10 woman for example won't consider a man higher value than her unless he's 8/10 or above and she'll treat a 7/10 man like shit even though he's still better than her.
Pretty much every woman is disloyal and Machiavellian, that's just their nature. You're not going to find a "good" woman, what passes for finding a "good" woman is being higher value than her, then she'll treat you with respect. What a "bad" woman is is a woman who's such a crazy bitch that she won't even treat a man who's higher value than her with respect.
That's probably where the line can be drawn for the minimal standard for marriage material or acceptable to date in general, if she at least treats you well if you're higher value than her. The thing is though women's standards are super delusional these days so even "good" women can appear like "bad" women because a 6/10 woman for example won't consider a man higher value than her unless he's 8/10 or above and she'll treat a 7/10 man like shit even though he's still better than her.
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Originally Posted By ZoomerPsycho⏩
I'm not actively swiping since I'm in a relationship right now but I just checked and I have 129 matches on hinge right now.
I love Monster0Ultra, but unfortunately both of us are Sub5 in the eyes of women by default since women hate Indian and Asian men
I think 7lions had 500 matches though.
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If we're gauging by what we see online, then yes, 3-5%. If we're talking about IRL people, it depends on your social circle. You are the company you keep after all. But I would say it's closer to 10-15% easy. Higher if you narrow it down to younger girls. That's using OP's metrics, which are biased, since tattoos don't automatically make someone of ill repute for example.
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Guys, what OP posted is true. If you can't find a decent girl it is probably because they are not very common. Stop letting society tell you you aren't good enough. Men need to value themselves and stop marrying these no-quality women. Men undervalue themselves in the same way women overvalue themselves. What feminist do is they find something about you that isn't ideal and they just run you down with it to make it seem like you are worthless. Meanwhile they are completely useless. Prostitution never goes out of business for a reason.
02-03-2026, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
You might be right.
If we're gauging by what we see online, then yes, 3-5%. If we're talking about IRL people, it depends on your social circle. You are the company you keep after all. But I would say it's closer to 10-15% easy. Higher if you narrow it down to younger girls. That's using OP's metrics, which are biased, since tattoos don't automatically make someone of ill repute for example.
By traditional standards, I'd say tattoos on a woman were a non-starter. From a psychological standpoint I'd say they can give insight into a woman's mental makeup which often doesn't gel with the marriage thing that is supposed to be a lifelong commitment (she follows society/the herd, often a rash decision, may be slooty, questionable if you want an inky as a mom of your children, etc).
But some of those we can deduce a number just based on percentages of the female population -- like percent that are overweight/obese, psychiatric conditions (often medicated), debt load, voting patterns, comes from single parent household, etc.
Regardless, even at 10-15% it would mean 85-90% of women should not be looked at as possible marriage partners. That's A LOT. You could be at some average job with 20 female co-workers and essentially 2 or 3 of them would be worthy of being pursued in that way. At the current trajectory, in 20 years that number could be down to 1 maybe 2.
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Originally Posted By Jaydubs⏩
This is why in modern society it's almost taboo for men to criticize women (or for people to do that with minorities), but it's game on to point out and embellish every possible flaw about men. A woman is assumed to be a queen worthy of worship simply by being a woman. And then you'll have the majority of men that will simp in hopes that being an ally will lead to pucci.
Guys, what OP posted is true. If you can't find a decent girl it is probably because they are not very common. Stop letting society tell you you aren't good enough. Men need to value themselves and stop marrying these no-quality women. Men undervalue themselves in the same way women overvalue themselves. What feminist do is they find something about you that isn't ideal and they just run you down with it to make it seem like you are worthless. Meanwhile they are completely useless. Prostitution never goes out of business for a reason.
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I don't think it's really something you can put a number on. The guys complaining about these women created them. They want hot virgin women with all the potential to be a sloot. It's a figment of their f*cking imagination. You can't be shocked when you pressure women as teens and younger adults to play with your lil' pecker and they grow into sloots. Be better judges of character.
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in the traditional sense like our grandfathers and grandmothers were married?
5% would be incredibly high
5% would be incredibly high
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Originally Posted By edwardhaskell⏩
This is true but the worse part is that most women can't figure out when a man is marriage material. Maybe this comes with the hypercriticism of men, that they don't see bad qualities because they just assume all are bad so she just finds what she likes. Funny chit, know a sloot, telling me how she was divorcing her husband because he's a POS, and he is, but she met him at a party drunk, went drinking and smoking weed with him, dude was living with roomates and couch surfing until he moved in with her, and had always had spotty employment, his car came from a buy-here-pay here. So now, he can't hold a job and goes out getting drunk and then overdrafts their bank account on bar tabs and they couldn't pay rent, and they can't get anything because of the credit.... whoopty do what did she expect.
This is why in modern society it's almost taboo for men to criticize women (or for people to do that with minorities), but it's game on to point out and embellish every possible flaw about men. A woman is assumed to be a queen worthy of worship simply by being a woman. And then you'll have the majority of men that will simp in hopes that being an ally will lead to pucci.
02-03-2026, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
Yes. My grandparents and most great aunts/uncles lived within 30 or so miles and I saw them often. Judging by the women I knew from that era, I consider them "traditional" ...and I think you're right <5% today.
in the traditional sense like our grandfathers and grandmothers were married?
5% would be incredibly high
5% would be incredibly high
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Originally Posted By Jaydubs⏩
I see this most with the working class women I went to HS with in a small town. I think those girls love guys like this...and letting those dudes make them single moms.
This is true but the worse part is that most women can't figure out when a man is marriage material. Maybe this comes with the hypercriticism of men, that they don't see bad qualities because they just assume all are bad so she just finds what she likes. Funny chit, know a sloot, telling me how she was divorcing her husband because he's a POS, and he is, but she met him at a party drunk, went drinking and smoking weed with him, dude was living with roomates and couch surfing until he moved in with her, and had always had spotty employment, his car came from a buy-here-pay here. So now, he can't hold a job and goes out getting drunk and then overdrafts their bank account on bar tabs and they couldn't pay rent, and they can't get anything because of the credit.... whoopty do what did she expect.
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