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post 10000080873 03-08-2026, 03:39 PM
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Talk me out of roiding (doctor prescribed)

Strongly considering doing a forevor test cycle and cycling anavar from time to time on top of it. Shouldn’t negatively affect me as long as I give blood occasionally and stay lean right?
post 10000080892 03-08-2026, 03:55 PM
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Don't do it, you might leave humanity behind
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post 10000080903 03-08-2026, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17⏩
Don't do it, you might leave humanity behind
Wouldn’t that be a shame
post 10000080904 03-08-2026, 04:09 PM
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you asked the same on newmisc, i say the same now, don't do it
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Originally Posted By Sigmund_Evil⏩
you asked the same on newmisc, i say the same now, don't do it
Why not
post 10000080934 03-08-2026, 04:39 PM
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Do it
post 10000080939 03-08-2026, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Do it
Can I take test forever workout an AI as long as I stay lean? And will it boost my tdee?
post 10000080978 03-08-2026, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
Can I take test forever workout an AI as long as I stay lean? And will it boost my tdee?
Nothing lasts forever
post 10000080995 03-08-2026, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway⏩
Nothing lasts forever
I know but once you start there’s no reason to stop right? And will it raise my tdee?
post 10000081007 03-08-2026, 06:22 PM
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Not worth it
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
I know but once you start there’s no reason to stop right? And will it raise my tdee?
Yeah a little because you'll build more muscle
post 10000081021 03-08-2026, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
Can I take test forever workout an AI as long as I stay lean? And will it boost my tdee?
Well yeah I don't take an AI while I'm at cruise dose


Can you blast indefinitely? No that's beyond retarded and exactly what kills you .
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post 10000081024 03-08-2026, 06:42 PM
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Only you can decide for yourself tard

Im 3 years in
post 10000081027 03-08-2026, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
Can I take test forever workout an AI as long as I stay lean? And will it boost my tdee?
Hoo boy....

1. Yes or no, it depends entirely on your SHBG levels as to how much test is left to interact with either the 5 alpha reductase enzyme (converts free test to DHT) or the aromatase enzyme (converts free test to estradiol(E2)) - evidence suggests AIs will block the action of the AE as well as lower SHBG, freeing up more test to interact with the 5ar enzyme. Genetic faults can affect how well 5ar works. If you're not built like a prepubescent school girl, you should be ok. Increased body fat will result in more AE activity which is why fat cunts are generally told not to take test without leaning out unless under specific doctors care.

B. What will boost your TDEE is increased activity and increased muscle mass. 1lb of human muscle tissue will burn between 6 and 10 calories per day at rest. 1lb fat will only consume 2-3 calories per day at rest. IF your diet is in check and you are able to eat slightly above maintenance you will gain muscle tissue, thereby increasing TDEE. Testosterone itself will not increase TDEE significantly to the point you can simply take it with no other action and expect decent results.
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post 10000081028 03-08-2026, 06:47 PM
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I'll give my take on it.

For running a cycle you should be dialed in on your nutrition. If you think blasting will just give you the freedom to do whatever you want and still look amazing I have bad news that's not how it works. And by dialed on on your nutrition I mean tracking everything and meal prepping and knowing what you're doing.

Now if you just want to get on a trt dose and be more lackadaisical by all means go for it. Being on trt isn't going to allow you to eat like a fat slob without repercussions though. At the same time I wouldn't say you're wasting it if you had a more normal approach to nutrition and exercise. In general I think every man should be on trt when they get older anyway. If you're below 500 ng/dl you might as well get on it even if that's still technically in the normal healthy range they give.

I know I know... on the misc every one has 1200 ng/dl blood work naturally up until the age of 60 because you're all so alpha. But for everyone else in the real world you should probably be on trt long before that.
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post 10000081030 03-08-2026, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
I know but once you start there’s no reason to stop right? And will it raise my tdee?
Depends on how you manage your cycle.

Still want kids? You'll need to track your FSH/LH numbers. If you're not gonna hop off you'll need at least HCG.

Not using the correct ancillaries and run into kidney, liver, heart or blood issues? Much easier to hop off for a bit and rectify, then plan out your mitigations properly before getting back on vs trying to fix potentially serious issues while continuing to use.

Prone to genetic MPB? Deal with it. You can try DHT blockers but if you're hoping to gain mass you don't want to mess with DHT too much.
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post 10000081032 03-08-2026, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
I'll give my take on it.

For running a cycle you should be dialed in on your nutrition. If you think blasting will just give you the freedom to do whatever you want and still look amazing I have bad news that's not how it works. And by dialed on on your nutrition I mean tracking everything and meal prepping and knowing what you're doing.

Now if you just want to get on a trt dose and be more lackadaisical by all means go for it. Being on trt isn't going to allow you to eat like a fat slob without repercussions though. At the same time I wouldn't say you're wasting it if you had a more normal approach to nutrition and exercise. In general I think every man should be on trt when they get older anyway. If you're below 500 ng/dl you might as well get on it even if that's still technically in the normal healthy range they give.

I know I know... on the misc every one has 1200 ng/dl blood work naturally up until the age of 60 because you're all so alpha. But for everyone else in the real world you should probably be on trt long before that.
I already take diet very serious I track everything my tdee is around 2200-2300 and I’m very active and eat a lot of protein like at least 200 grams a day. If test would keep all things the same and make it so I could eat 2500 a day and have abs it would probably be worth it and my natural levels are around 800. I hate only being able to eat 2200 or so.
post 10000081058 03-08-2026, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
Depends on how you manage your cycle.

Still want kids? You'll need to track your FSH/LH numbers. If you're not gonna hop off you'll need at least HCG.

Not using the correct ancillaries and run into kidney, liver, heart or blood issues? Much easier to hop off for a bit and rectify, then plan out your mitigations properly before getting back on vs trying to fix potentially serious issues while continuing to use.

Prone to genetic MPB? Deal with it. You can try DHT blockers but if you're hoping to gain mass you don't want to mess with DHT too much.
Don’t think I want kids but I don’t want my balls to shrink too small to where it looks weird. I’m already bald as a natty and I’m not gonna take a dht blocker. I def plan on being/staying lean and taking my daily aspirin I hope that would be good enough to deal with blood pressure issues or blood clotting issues. There is a big history of heart issues in my family.
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
Don’t think I want kids but I don’t want my balls to shrink too small to where it looks weird. I’m already bald as a natty and I’m not gonna take a dht blocker. I def plan on being/staying lean and taking my daily aspirin I hope that would be good enough to deal with blood pressure issues or blood clotting issues. There is a big history of heart issues in my family.
Nope

Cialis can help with blood pressure, aspirin will thin the blood to assist as well - you'll need to keep a close eye on haemoglobin and red blood cell count. The most obvious fix is staying hydrated at all times and doing regular cardio work, but for chemical assistance nattokinase is a great help and regular phlebotomy or blood donations will help lower haemoglobin - drawing 500ml will take 6-12 weeks for haemoglobin levels to fully recover. Where I live, there isn't a regular blood bank to donate to but my girlfriend is a trained vet nurse so I ordered a bunch of phlebotomy kits and blood bags so she can do home venesections on me 4-6 times a year depending on levels, in addition to the blood tests I get done every 6-8 weeks.
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post 10000081085 03-08-2026, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
Nope

Cialis can help with blood pressure, aspirin will thin the blood to assist as well - you'll need to keep a close eye on haemoglobin and red blood cell count. The most obvious fix is staying hydrated at all times and doing regular cardio work, but for chemical assistance nattokinase is a great help and regular phlebotomy or blood donations will help lower haemoglobin - drawing 500ml will take 6-12 weeks for haemoglobin levels to fully recover. Where I live, there isn't a regular blood bank to donate to but my girlfriend is a trained vet nurse so I ordered a bunch of phlebotomy kits and blood bags so she can do home venesections on me 4-6 times a year depending on levels, in addition to the blood tests I get done every 6-8 weeks.
So you draw blood about once a month?
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
Strongly considering doing a forevor test cycle and cycling anavar from time to time on top of it. Shouldn’t negatively affect me as long as I give blood occasionally and stay lean right?
Love yourself, and treat your body with kindness. Don’t hurt your body for any reason. Srs.
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
So you draw blood about once a month?
Blood tests every 6-8 weeks right now; venesections will be done based on the outcome of the blood tests - if haemoglobin and RBC counts are within normal safe range, no venesection at that time. I'm cruising now and will be for a while - I was putting on good size when I was training 5 times a week with 20 sets per session but I've gained better on a cruise dose training on a Blood and Guts routine since January 1 - steroids will help with recovery, but more is not always necessarily better in the context of PEDs and more is absolutely not better in the context of weight training.

Also, get yourself a blood pressure monitor and check it at least weekly - I test mine most days when bulking; twice a week when cruising.
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Just do it. My life has improved significantly in the 2 years since I started TRT.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Just do it. My life has improved significantly in the 2 years since I started TRT.
Yeah, Oliver pins test with an ester that has a half life of 11 days and requires 6 weeks to hit full serum levels in the body but 20 minutes after he pins he feels massive euphoria - which, if possible at all, would only happen with testosterone suspension - water based, requires a fucking harpoon to inject and hits the bloodstream almost immediately (used by some pros right before training and because it's pure test in water it's fucking painful to inject and fucking painful as it absorbs).
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Originally Posted By LargePeter⏩
Yeah, Oliver pins test with an ester that has a half life of 11 days and requires 6 weeks to hit full serum levels in the body but 20 minutes after he pins he feels massive euphoria - which, if possible at all, would only happen with testosterone suspension - water based, requires a fucking harpoon to inject and hits the bloodstream almost immediately (used by some pros right before training and because it's pure test in water it's fucking painful to inject and fucking painful as it absorbs).
You are forgetting one important thing that Oliver doesn’t concern himself with - reality.
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Originally Posted By Mulloway69⏩
You are forgetting one important thing that Oliver doesn’t concern himself with - reality.
Shhhhh, don't tell him that - he'll get upset
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One answer is try and see how you like it.

The other answer though is I've tried of course and based on what I know about you, I don't think you'll like it that much because the results could be underwhelming.

If what you care about is pulling sloots, that's about height and nice hair and skin.
Balding is death. If you have no hair, you have no life.
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Originally Posted By MegaSloot⏩
Love yourself, and treat your body with kindness. Don’t hurt your body for any reason. Srs.
Zip it sloot
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
One answer is try and see how you like it.

The other answer though is I've tried of course and based on what I know about you, I don't think you'll like it that much because the results could be underwhelming.

If what you care about is pulling sloots, that's about height and nice hair and skin.
Yeah my concern is I’ll throw away my natty card and not look much better. Biggest thing with sloots is I’m very tall and bald already but even tho I train my abs hard af I am really struggling to get abs if I don’t have decent abs by the time I hit 11% body fat I’ll probably start juicing.
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