This isn’t even a women hate thread.

- 50% of marriages end in divorce
- Legal fees are insane. Wedding ceremonies are a waste of money
- The higher earner, usually the man, loses half his chit. And gets even more ass fukked if he has a kid
- Modern culture does not promote monogamy, couple basic human instinct with the sanctity of marriage no longer having value and someone in the marriage will divorce or cheat. This becomes more and more true as time progresses

Most of my friends who have gotten married are unhappy af even just a few years into it. Some have already been cheated on and divorced. Like wtf.

This pill really fukking sucks. As someone who always wanted to get married and have kids, it is unfortunate getting pilled on the brutal reality. If I were poor as fuk I wouldn’t mind getting married because I’d have nothing to lose. But as someone who worked hard af for what I have I do not want to risk it on a coin flip.

Just make her pay for half of everything, get one of your parents to make an investment or saving account for you and pay them money every pay, start before you are married and continue for life, if anyone asks say you borrowed money from them and lost it all on an investment. Add more bs in and say you borrow cash off them on the reg and are paying them back every week, say you spent the cash on alcohol or fuel or whatever.

At least that way if you split she only gets half of what she contributed to.

Just make her pay for half of everything, get one of your parents to make an investment or saving account for you and pay them money every pay, start before you are married and continue for life, if anyone asks say you borrowed money from them and lost it all on an investment. Add more bs in and say you borrow cash off them on the reg and are paying them back every week, say you spent the cash on alcohol or fuel or whatever.

At least that way if you split she only gets half of what she contributed to.

whenever i see miscers post this type of thread I know they are a low tier member of society.

There are plenty of good wholesome women in the western world that are not whores and are loyal and make great mothers.

If you think marriage and procreation aren't worthwhile endeavors, you most likely aren't worthy of earning a high value woman. Or you are too addicted to social media to go out and find good women and think its only social media attention whores out there.

How old are you?

I got married last year it’s goated

The government successfully convinced people it the in their best interest. Deep seated survival instincts and the illusion of benefits like tax incentives drive this.

There is literally no reason the government should participate in personal relationships.

Some of you guys really over complicate this.

People need people.

My wife pushed me when I was comfortable being average, comforted me when I was my most vulnerable, and makes me laugh everyday. Truly grateful for her.

15 year anniversary coming up in May.

People’s needs and feelings change regularly though. The idea of a legally permanent relationship violates basic human nature.

Divorce rates prove this

Genetic studies showing humans are not monogamous show this

Basic psychology proves this




Congratulations on your uncommon relationship continuity.

Yah maybe if you marry a western woman that’s all about vanity

A lot of men are really stupid about marriage.

There's some clear things you need to add to your list of criteria BESIDES what they look like.

The main one is values - do they share the same values around finances, family and even sex and household stuff. If you're a neat freak, don't marry a slob. If you're good with finances and stable, don't marry someone who has a minimum wage job and no ambition. If you differ on kids or they have a mental illness and you think you can "change them" - don't bother. It's a waste of your time.

And never, ever marry a woman with far less earning potential than you who has a low level job if you make 100k. That's where financial stuff gets messy.

Too many men ignore red flags staring them in the face because they are getting laid or think they will never find another girl "like her".

I think about his alot because my parents split and both had trouble with relationships.

I feel the biggest driver of people splitting is that they do not share a purpose. For a while, having kids gives you that purpose but once they leave, you are stuck with someone you may not like.

Also, we got married a bit later so we were fully "developed" as personalities = no surprises after wedding.

No doubt.

however, I think people like you don't understand the risks. Whatever statistics you see don't even represent the raw-data (which is probably alarming). How many couples are together for fear of loneliness rather than affection? For her not to be homeless?

I've literally always thought since I was a little kid that the secret to a long-marriage was being an ugly couple. I remember when I found out how sex worked and I'd look at people's wives and girlfriends and wonder how some guy (likely a gymcel) could fuck and procreate with beasts. I mean the likelihood of ANY woman having a child is almost 100% past a certain age. Even cripples. I mean you see some many attractive women on TV movies and IRL its a fucking shitshow of ugly people penetrating each other. Its wild.

Most men simply tell themselves their wife is "beautiful"...OK, then what's the word to describe Taylor Swift or whomever is legitimately attractive?

I remember telling a woman in a dating app that she was delusional for demanding a man over 6ft? She told me she was entitled to her preferences.

Why was I so harsh? She was in a fucking wheelchair. I told her she was a burden to her family her entire life and now expects Prince Charming to waltz in and sweep her off her wheels. insanity.

That said, I have no doubt some 6footer did eventually wife her up. Probably sold his BMW to buy a van with a wheelchair-lift tbh.

Married crew, lol @ FAcels

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Agreed with this, a lot of miscers main requirement for marriage seems to be for the woman to be hot as fuk and to remain hot a fuk for the rest of their lives. My wife is not the hottest woman I've been with and after 2 kids the body obviously changes and is never the same but thats fine because at the end of the day I'm still attracted to her, I still think she's good looking physically so who gives a chit, and she's the one with the best traits that I've ever been with.

Married life is the GOAT. See avi.

This guy understands the importance of fresh produce

I like the one that says some pulp.

Which one? Second, third, fourth?

The thing is, it's really hard to want to marry a woman who you meet when she's 30+ years old. You never saw her youthful energy, and she is under no obligation to show you her youthful energy.

There are still some girls worth marrying, but you definitely want to meet them when they're no older than like 25. If it takes 5+ years of dating to get married that's totally fine. But man it's really hard to have any desire to attach yourself to a woman who is in her 30 and isn't giving you any of her youth. She would need to be a really special girl to deal with that, when in reality most at that age aren't.

Ngl I have a lot of fears around marriage and kids

I had two women that wanted kids and marriage I also seen how fast their minds change. And I seen too many older men fucked over in marriage. I haven't seen a single woman screwed in divorce it's very one sided

Also pre-nup only protects what you go into the divorce with. Not sure if there are any specialized ones that let you protect your future earnings but from what I understand future earnings are split 50/50.

The relationships with younger women I've had I noticed they had way less baggage they were more trusting and willing to jump right in so to speak but they also change their mind quickly

How long have you been married?

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I agree with your general take, and there definitely are still great females out there. But man, it's a different world out there compared to 2011. Even around 2015-2016 you could find many girls out there willing to make you a better man. But in 2026, those girls are looooooooooong gone and they're focused on themselves nowadays.

Been Married 10ish years. Have kids.

Let me tell you, even though my Wife is attractive, thin and 7 years younger than me... It gets old and she will slowly remove intimacy until you're getting less than the bare minimum.

Then you'll get hit on by beautiful girls who can sense your sexual frustration, and you will enjoy the attention. And since you can't Divorce without losing everything, including daily access to your kids... You're left with 2 options:

Accept your lot on life, and wait for the kids to grow up. Or say Fck it and boink other women.

I made my choice. What would you do?


I couldn't handle knowing some other guy is living with my kids. Who knows if he's a diddler? Priority #1 as a man, is keeping your kids safe.

Does this mean you're planning on divorcing your wife once your kids are 18?