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post 10000239953 07-01-2026, 08:22 PM
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So my bench is like stuck at like 275 and I'm trying to reach 3 plates to ascend to valhalla and dine amongst the gods. Got a question about the top set/back off approach though.

Am I supposed to be increasing the weight of the top set, back offs or both? Idk I might just be a dumbass but I can't really find a clear answer. I keep seeing that the back offs aren't supposed to feel too heavy and shouldn't be til failure so I went down with that and the top set too. I just don't know how to progress this.

Like if I fail a top single should I increase or decrease the back off sets? If so by how much and how do I reset?
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post 10000239954 07-01-2026, 08:23 PM
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post 10000239966 07-01-2026, 08:39 PM
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Do 4 week blocks. Start the week 1 top single at rpe6 and increase 1rpe each week. This will be around a 2.5-3% increase. After week 4 reset at a slightly higher start point and repeat. For the back off sets you do want to be averaging around rpe7.
post 10000240001 07-01-2026, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway
Do 4 week blocks. Start the week 1 top single at rpe6 and increase 1rpe each week. This will be around a 2.5-3% increase. After week 4 reset at a slightly higher start point and repeat. For the back off sets you do want to be averaging around rpe7.
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post 10000240111 07-01-2026, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By GaryRidgway
Do 4 week blocks. Start the week 1 top single at rpe6 and increase 1rpe each week. This will be around a 2.5-3% increase. After week 4 reset at a slightly higher start point and repeat. For the back off sets you do want to be averaging around rpe7.
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post 10000240124 07-01-2026, 10:15 PM
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post 10000240158 07-01-2026, 10:34 PM
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The top set back off approach works well once the brute force go close to failure every set approach stops working.

I personally go with higher RPEs and it works for me because I'm bench specialist and don't have much spillover fatigue from back and legs. The key thing to remember is the back off sets are there to support progression on the top set. If your top set is progressing, don't add weight to the back off sets as you'll just accumulate unnecessary fatigue which inhibits strength expression.

Also you need to realistic about the progression timeframes. If you go up in weight too quickly you can get injuries because your tendons haven't had enough time to adapt to the increased load.
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