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post 1453980493 07-22-2016, 09:36 AM
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You won't make gains until you set aside your stupid fuking ego's. (pic + truth ITT)

If you train for strength or Powerlifting, this isn't the thread for you but feel free to contribute without a bias if you can.

There's far too many people who cannot get out of the way of their own ego. What do I mean by this?

If you're walking into the gym and going right to the exercise you can move the most weight on and you're actually conscious of how other people in the gym perceive your strength then you're doing yourself a disservice.

Lets take a chest day for example. The majority of gym-goers are going to walk into the gym and attempt to move around some 'heavy' weight on barbell or dumbbells and continue to move up in weight beyond what they can really control, squeeze, and concentrate on a mind-muscle connection. At this point you're no longer maximizing the recruitment of your chest and you're letting other muscle groups, momentum, or other structures play a larger role.

I get a good chuckle out of the guys who walk in with their ILS sit on a flat bench and then bounce 315 off their chest or half rep it yet still have a bird chest and noodle arms. Don't let that be you.

I don't even bother with barbell or dumbbells 90% of the time - machines, cables, or smith with good volume and intensity techniques = mind blowing chest workouts for example.



All these miscers who bitch and moan about what is/isn't possible naturally and have become self deprecating about their own progress are likely those I'm referring to with this post.
post 1453980793 07-22-2016, 09:38 AM
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Good post OP, agreed.

I like to hit some heavy bench sometimes, but 90% of the time I work dumbbells/isolation movements with super controlled form, stretching the pecs and contracting hard.
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post 1453981003 07-22-2016, 09:39 AM
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Agreed, ego's should be kept in the locker room.

I suggest an ego crushing exercise:
- pick the lightest dumbells, preferably the pink ones
- move to the center of the gym
- pretend the pink dumbells are really heavy and let everyone stare at you
post 1453981153 07-22-2016, 09:41 AM
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Ego is what blew out my pec. I haven't gone heavy since.
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pec muscles are pre-dominantly fast twitch; so you're actually doing yourself a disservice by doing slow, concentrated high reps

ironic that it's your ego that's the determining factor when training for pump
post 1453981633 07-22-2016, 09:43 AM
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like i care what a person has to say when they can't even take a picture of their abs in their bathroom mirror because of their height

move along people nothing to see here
post 1453981803 07-22-2016, 09:44 AM
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10/10 truth post.

Not to mention ego lifting = forms suffers = injuries = less gains / mental frustration
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post 1453982033 07-22-2016, 09:45 AM
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My arms are so overdeveloped and my chest is **** bc I use to just push the heaviest dumbbells without focusing on squeezing. Now I have much better workout just using 60-70lbs
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I don't know brah, maybe I can't stand listening to your jargon anymore. The fact that you talk a lot of **** that you can not back makes me believe that you do a lot of reading and not a lot of lifting. How Can you give advice to people without truly understanding what you are saying? The answer is you can't ..... You can not tell someone something without knowing if it works or not. You have no experience lifting. You hardly know anything. Everything you do know you read in a book or stole from someone else. You have no factual eveidence that it works. You just take advice from credible sources and post them as your own....As an aspiring personal trainer, who has actually spent time working in a gym, watching and criticizing and experimenting. Stop posting. You don't know what youre talking about. You know it too.
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What would you consider good volume and intensity techniques? Srs
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strong naturalness itt
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Originally Posted By kurent⏩
Agreed, ego's should be kept in the locker room.

I suggest an ego crushing exercise:
- pick the lightest dumbells, preferably the pink ones
- move to the center of the gym
- pretend the pink dumbells are really heavy and let everyone stare at you
This

*always gets a good cawk pump going before changing in the locker room crew*
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Jokes on you, I have a bird chest no matter what weight, volume, or frequency I use.
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I never had this problem.

I always walk around my gym like as if I'm better looking then everyone, not bigger than everyone.

Theres a difference.
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33⏩
pec muscles are pre-dominantly fast twitch; so you're actually doing yourself a disservice by doing slow, concentrated high reps

ironic that it's your ego that's the determining factor when training for pump
Funny because I didn't say anything about slow reps or specifically going light. What I did point out are techniques people use to reduce the overall recruitment of muscles.
post 1453982923 07-22-2016, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
If you train for strength or Powerlifting, this isn't the thread for you but feel free to contribute without a bias if you can.

There's far too many people who cannot get out of the way of their own ego. What do I mean by this?

If you're walking into the gym and going right to the exercise you can move the most weight on and you're actually conscious of how other people in the gym perceive your strength then you're doing yourself a disservice.

Lets take a chest day for example. The majority of gym-goers are going to walk into the gym and attempt to move around some 'heavy' weight on barbell or dumbbells and continue to move up in weight beyond what they can really control, squeeze, and concentrate on a mind-muscle connection. At this point you're no longer maximizing the recruitment of your chest and you're letting other muscle groups, momentum, or other structures play a larger role.

I get a good chuckle out of the guys who walk in with their ILS sit on a flat bench and then bounce 315 off their chest or half rep it yet still have a bird chest and noodle arms. Don't let that be you.

I don't even bother with barbell or dumbbells 90% of the time - machines, cables, or smith with good volume and intensity techniques = mind blowing chest workouts for example.



All these miscers who bitch and moan about what is/isn't possiblenaturallyand have become self deprecating about their own progress are likely those I'm referring to with this post.
TLDR, just scanned the thread to find this word
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Agree wit op and the logic. Leave ego at the door.
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Originally Posted By miscoach⏩
I don't know brah, maybe I can't stand listening to your jargon anymore. The fact that you talk a lot of **** that you can not back makes me believe that you do a lot of reading and not a lot of lifting. How Can you give advice to people without truly understanding what you are saying? The answer is you can't ..... You can not tell someone something without knowing if it works or not. You have no experience lifting. You hardly know anything. Everything you do know you read in a book or stole from someone else. You have no factual eveidence that it works. You just take advice from credible sources and post them as your own....As an aspiring personal trainer, who has actually spent time working in a gym, watching and criticizing and experimenting. Stop posting. You don't know what youre talking about. You know it too.
copy pasta or shots fired?
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how to know if i'm an ego lifter
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My old favorite chest lift was incline smith machine.

Never put much weight on it maybe two 45's and two 25's, but the slow movement and contraction gave me a huge pump.
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Originally Posted By IanPhelps⏩
My old favorite chest lift was incline smith machine.

Never put much weight on it maybe two 45's and two 25's, but the slow movement and contraction gave me a huge pump.
Burns so good
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Yep i still regularly bench with 25s on both sides if its what i feel will get me the best workout for that stage of my workout. Makes me look like a little bitch but no fuks given.
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But who was warmup sets?

Agreed OP. I don't understand it when people walk in the gym and proceed to do the following on any exercise:

90% for 2 reps
95% for 1 rep
100% for 1/2 rep
110% no reps
115% no reps
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Originally Posted By ppscalzo⏩
But who was warmup sets?

Agreed OP. I don't understand it when people walk in the gym and proceed to do the following on any exercise:

90% for 2 reps
95% for 1 rep
100% for 1/2 rep
110% no reps
115% no reps
Absolute truth. Not to mention taking a 12 minute breaking walking around and chugging protein between sets.

I have a gym membership too but homegym crew. I bench when I want not when some ******* decides his 96 minute session on the bench is over.
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Originally Posted By PisseninMisc⏩
Absolute truth.Not to mention taking a 12 minute breaking walking around and chugging protein between sets.

I have a gym membership too but homegym crew. I bench when I want not when some ******* decides his 96 minute session on the bench is over.
If you put 4 plates on the bar and just walk around the bench people will think you can lift that without actually having to lift it
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For naturals there needs to be a balance between strength and contractions.


My form is pretty much perfect on everything and so are my contractions but I do prefer to start with a heavier compound movement at every session. After that I do machines, cables, etc.

Best of both worlds.
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Lets hear the specifics of this routine
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Thanks for the kind words brah.

I ****ed up my rotator coughs in my uni gym trying to keep up with my friends on the bench press when they were clearly more advanced and had lifted since HS.
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What are your max lifts then we'll talk
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