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post 1547371281 03-25-2018, 10:36 AM
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Should trannies be allowed in the military?



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post 1547371321 03-25-2018, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
whoever wants to fight should be allowed to fight, imo
This. They wanna be heros and defend for my freedom go ahead. Its more alpha then being a keyboard badass on the misc.
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I thought we were trying to keep guns away from the mentally ill?
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Sure, why not. If you're able bodied and that's what you want to do, more power to you.
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post 1547371661 03-25-2018, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
whoever wants to fight should be allowed to fight, imo
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This. They wanna be heros and defend for my freedom go ahead. Its more alpha then being a keyboard badass on the misc.
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post 1547372011 03-25-2018, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Vhagar
I thought we were trying to keep guns away from the mentally ill?
This. Should we allow depressed, anxiety prone, schizo people in the army?

but I suppose being too picky has its negatives too.
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They are demanding medical care and sex change operations in the military and present all kinds of logistic problems,ie metal disorder, female to male tranny can't carry equipment men are expected to carry, etc
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Originally Posted By Azrairc
They are demanding medical care and sex change operations in the military and present all kinds of logistic problems,ie metal disorder, female to male tranny can't carry equipment men are expected to carry, etc
I'm gonna be honest, I don't agree with the military paying for the operations. But why don't they just remove that instead of banning them?

Do you also agree that the military should stop spending $84 million per year on viagra too then?
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Why shouldn't they be? It's a volunteer army, and if they want to serve and pass the tests, there shouldn't be a problem.
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Originally Posted By Lucianus
I'm gonna be honest, I don't agree with the military paying for the operations. But why don't they just remove that instead of banning them?

Do you also agree that the military should stop spending $84 million per year on viagra too then?
Viagra and hormones are not in the same ballpark....it's like comparing apples to oranges.
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i believe the mentally handicapped should have all the same options as any one else
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No and anyone that says they should be "allowed" has never been in the military in a combat mos
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No.

Homosexuals should be thrown out too.
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Originally Posted By Lucianus
I'm gonna be honest, I don't agree with the military paying for the operations. But why don't they just remove that instead of banning them?

Do you also agree that the military should stop spending $84 million per year on viagra too then?
I don't think ED is on the same qualification spectrum as a mental illness. Nice try though.

Why not just let everyone in the military then? Mentally ill, the physically weak, let's just have absolutely no standards at all.

****ing idiot.

This argument blows my mind. And it's largely the liberals who are up in arms about the ban. One minute they want to increase gun regulations and keep weapons away from the mentally ill, the next minute they're fighting for the mentally ill to have access to weapons. They can't make up their mind. It's laughable.
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I just dont see how it will work logistically. Do they co-ed with men or women? Whose standards do they go by?

Aside from that it will never fit in that culture. Why would they even want to go into military.
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No way. You can't get in the military if you're flat footed, obese, midget, etc. Why make an exception here? Isn't the suicide rate among trans people like 40%?
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Most mental illnesses are automatic DQ'ers for military service yet people are allllllllllll about letting the T crowd sign up. Nope. No hypocrisy there. There is ABSOLUTELY a few screws loose in your gord if you want to take hormones that alter your natural endocrine system production forever or even go so far as to cut your you dick off/have a fake dick implanted.

As someone who trained with all male infantry and then with a few females, let me be the one to tell you that they have both pros and cons. They bring good things to the unit, but they SLOW TRAINING DOWN. They cant train on the same level and they sure as chit cant carry my big ass out of a hot situation if need be. Sure, they can squeeze a trigger just like anyone else but there is soooo much more to it that that
If this mtf powerlifter says that "she" has no advantage over biological females, then you cant expect me to think that a mtf soldier can be trusted with pulling my heavy ass from point A to B


If you want to limit their MOS choices to say, no hard skills, then i'm ok with that. Military personnel who served in combat arms have a high enough suicide rate risk and so do the transgender crow and both JUST by virtue of being hard skills and trans. So why in the fukking world would you want to jam those two ULTRA HIGH RISK crowds tpgether
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Originally Posted By AshWar
No way. You can't get in the military if you're flat footed, obese, midget, etc. Why make an exception here? Isn't the suicide rate among trans people like 40%?
Yes. And studies show that number is stationary even post operation. It's a mentally ill community and there's no other way to put it. They can literally pursue any other route in life, other than the military.
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Originally Posted By Caeculus
No and anyone that says they should be "allowed" has never been in the military in a combat mos
This. I wouldn't go downrange with someone with a mental disorder, sorry.
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Originally Posted By meenman83
Viagra and hormones are not in the same ballpark....it's like comparing apples to oranges.
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I don't think ED is on the same qualification spectrum as a mental illness. Nice try though.

Why not just let everyone in the military then? Mentally ill, the physically weak, let's just have absolutely no standards at all.

****ing idiot.

This argument blows my mind. And it's largely the liberals who are up in arms about the ban. One minute they want to increase gun regulations and keep weapons away from the mentally ill, the next minute they're fighting for the mentally ill to have access to weapons. They can't make up their mind. It's laughable.
Where am I saying ED is a mental illness?

I'm saying should the military be spending $84 million per year on personal lives, example: so guys can get a boner?

I said I don't agree with the military paying for trans operations.
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Originally Posted By tank2003
Most mental illnesses are automatic DQ'ers for military service yet people are allllllllllll about letting the T crowd sign up. Nope. No hypocrisy there. There is ABSOLUTELY a few screws loose in your gord if you want to take hormones that alter your natural endocrine system production forever or even go so far as to cut your you dick off/have a fake dick implanted.

As someone who trained with all male infantry and then with a few females, let me be the one to tell you that they have both pros and cons. They bring good things to the unit, but they SLOW TRAINING DOWN. They cant train on the same level and they sure as chit cant carry my big ass out of a hot situation if need be. Sure, they can squeeze a trigger just like anyone else but there is soooo much more to it that that
If this mtf powerlifter says that "she" has no advantage over biological females, then you cant expect me to think that a mtf soldier can be trusted with pulling my heavy ass from point A to B


If you want to limit their MOS choices to say, no hard skills, then i'm ok with that. Military personnel who served in combat arms have a high enough suicide rate risk and so do the transgender crow and both JUST by virtue of being hard skills and trans. So why in the fukking world would you want to jam those two ULTRA HIGH RISK crowds tpgether
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Originally Posted By ruskiMishka
Aside from that it will never fit in that culture. Why would they even want to go into military.
You do realise trans people are individuals, right? Are you that brainwashed that you think every single trans woman is some barbie wannabe who talks about makeup and fashion all day?

People that want to fight for their country are patriotic. Thats why they want to go into the military. Thousands of trans have already served and risked their lives.
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Originally Posted By Lucianus
Where am I saying ED is a mental illness?

I'm saying should the military be spending $84 million per year on personal lives, example: so guys can get a boner?

I said I don't agree with the military paying for trans operations.
Yes men should be able to get boners that was stripped away by their military service. Trans personnel do not belong in the military, they do not belong on the battlefield...last thing you want is an emotional wreck or someone who is confused on what gender they are engaging the enemy and/or watching your six, sorry not sorry.

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No. Mental illness is a disqualifier.

The push for trannies in the military is an Obama era scheme to get the U.S. taxpayer to pay for their hormones and surgeries.
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