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post 1549504271 04-19-2018, 11:44 AM
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50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists To Point Blame At Fat

Maybe this belongs in the nutrition section, but I never go there, so I'm posting it here.

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Sugar industry lied and manipulated studies to make it seem as if fat was causing heart problems

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-..._campaign=food
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Same industry just tried to say natural fats from meat are unhealthy and processed fats are better. Same industry that said egg whites are healthier and less fattening than whole eggs w/yolk, when it is in fact the opposite.
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it's not fat or sugar in your diet that's the problem, it's being fat in general that causes heart problems
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Sugar is a hell of a drug
post 1549504611 04-19-2018, 11:48 AM
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Amazing how money can alter the entire nation for 50+ years. An entire way of life for almost 2 generations changed because some rich piece of **** throws $$$ around and changes an entire culture.

These people caused more damage than the atomic bombs (srs) and yet they'll retire rich, their kids will be rich and their kids will be rich. Not a single day in prison for any of them.
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This is what makes me question any article that says "scientists say"

Anyone can be bought.
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Apparently in the UK it came out people were paid off to promote 'the food pyramid'

Which basically says sugary fruit and some veggies is what you should eat a lot of and only some meat. This chit is worldwide and people that run the show at weight watchers and these idiotic smoothie companies have prolly made billions off of it.

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Just lol if you believe any study

There’s probably retards out there taking 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight too
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lol just lol. heard this a while back in JRE when he had Dr. Rhonda Patrick on. SOBs.
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Yeah heard about this a while ago. It's quite shocking how much power corporations have and how the whole world can be lied to, to their detriment simply for financial gain. The accumulation of wealth seems to be the driving force behind so much of the world's decisions whether it be food standards, the environment, education, medical care, political alliances, war etc. What is best for our society is a secondary after thought after how much money it will make us.
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sugar is also demonized unfairly. miscers still believe fruit can make you fat for example
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Originally Posted By BrightonBomber⏩
Yeah heard about this a while ago. It's quite shocking how much power corporations have and how the whole world can be lied to, to their detriment simply for financial gain. The accumulation of wealth seems to be the driving force behind so much of the world's decisions whether it be food standards, the environment, education, medical care, political alliances, war etc. What is best for our society is a secondary after thought after how much money it will make us.
The more shocking part to me is the amount of people that don't know about this. Most people still think meat will give you are heart attack and look for fat free over sugar free.
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Originally Posted By IronILLinois⏩
lol just lol. heard this a while back in JRE when he had Dr. Rhonda Patrick on. SOBs.
She's been on his show a lot, I really dig her. Joe is great about letting her talk, he's underrated as an interviewer.
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How do you think we got the food pyramid showing the majority of your diet should be fukking grains?

To prop up American farming of course.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
he's underrated as an interviewer.
Or he just gets stoned and lets his guests ramble on and on.
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People are fat mostly due to genetics and portions. Srs. The reason you see an explosion in obesity is a combination of diminished physical activity, increased availability of convenient foods, larger portions and container sizes as the technology progressed, endocrine disruption due to plastics, a large epidemic of depression due to an increasingly urbanized paradoxically disconnected (while being connected via social networks etc), and the existence of videogames and on demand entertainment. Seriously, it is all these things in tandem. Also, there may be viral or bacterial explanations for some of the increase in obesity, srs.

There are a lot of things working in tandem that are making us fatter. It's not just "sugar" or "fat". Neither of these things are bad for you, and are actually required in relatively high amounts in some form or another for you to function.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
it's not fat or sugar in your diet that's the problem, it's being fat in general that causes heart problems
too much sugar fks your hormone levels... oh yeah and it is addictive as fk. go to the grocery store, 99% of food is man made chemical chit you wouldn't find growing on a tree. it is all about the dollar. and they don't mind you dying early to get it
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I read that limiting refined sugar intake is the single most beneficial thing to do for your health aside from quitting smoking.

It messes with our liver, insulin resistance and dopamine levels. The amount of naturally occurring sucrose/glucose in fruits is very low. The human body was not designed to process all the sugars from candy, soda, etc.
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Originally Posted By GainzMcgee⏩
Or he just gets stoned and lets his guests ramble on and on.
Maybe every interviewer should be like that
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Originally Posted By devin45k⏩
This is what makes me question any article that says "scientists say"

Anyone can be bought.
The sugar lobby in the US is powerful. I know they paid some doctor $50k a month retainer to say that sugar is not linked with any health risks or diabetes.

Imagine getting paid that much during the 80s and 90s for basically lying your ass off and not even doing real work. What a complete sham. The tobacco industry did the same thing decades ago too. A cigarette after a meal was supposed to "healthy" for you.
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it isn't sugar or fat


it's overconsumption of all of those things.
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
it isn't sugar or fat


it's overconsumption of all of those things.
It's sugar. When there is glucose in your system, then your insulin level spikes. In the presence of insulin your body cannot utilize stored fat as energy. Insulin also converts sugars into fats readily.

Stop eating sugar and you will lose weight without having to do anything else.
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Originally Posted By shoelaces⏩
The sugar lobby in the US is powerful. I know they paid some doctor $50k a month retainer to say that sugar is not linked with any health risks or diabetes.

Imagine getting paid that much during the 80s and 90s for basically lying your ass off and not even doing real work. What a complete sham. The tobacco industry did the same thing decades ago too. A cigarette after a meal was supposed to "healthy" for you.
I don’t smoke cigs but I don’t think smoking is as bad as they say
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This is something that I learned in school a while back.

It's important to be able to determine the validity of a study. This is a skill, and most people don't have that. I'm sure more stringent protocols have been placed on peer review since then, but still.
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I don’t smoke cigs but I don’t think smoking is as bad as they say
I'll make this easy on u m8. I've taken the courses required to understand some of the negative effects of smoking, and I can tell you 100%, without a doubt, that it's horrible for you. In fact, more and more research is starting to reveal that it's actually worse for you than previously thought.

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Originally Posted By juvefan⏩
I don’t smoke cigs but I don’t think smoking is as bad as they say
I don't either. I also think there is surely a man-made effect on the climate but some of the world's "top scientists" have been manipulating data obviously to make it worse than it is.
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Thats the one thing I noticed since cutting out refined sugar completely is you no longer want it/crave it anymore. Refined sugar is put in products to make ppl crave it more and buy more of it.

Variety of fruits> refined sugar
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