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post 1570837721 01-10-2019, 03:42 PM
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Police in Canada can now demand breath samples in bars, at home

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https://globalnews.ca/news/4832762/i..._campaign=2014
It may sound unbelievable, but Canada’s revised laws on impaired driving could see police demand breath samples from people in bars, restaurants, or even at home. And if you say no, you could be arrested, face a criminal record, ordered to pay a fine, and subjected to a driving suspension.


You could be in violation of the impaired driving laws even two hours after you’ve been driving. Now, the onus is on drivers to prove they weren’t impaired when they were on the road.

“It’s ridiculous, it’s basically criminalizing you having a drink at your kitchen table,” Paul Doroshenko, a Vancouver criminal defence lawyer who specializes in impaired driving cases, told Global News.

READ MORE: Returning bottles to the Beer Store? Beware of possible breath test by police

“If you start to drink after you get home, the police show up at your door, they can arrest you, detain you, take you back to the (police station) and you can be convicted because your blood alcohol concentration was over 80 milligrams (per 100 millilitres of blood) in the two hours after you drove.”

Changes to Section 253 of the Criminal Code of Canada took effect in December giving police greater powers to seek breath samples from drivers who might be driving while impaired.

Under the new law, police officers no longer need to have a “reasonable suspicion” the driver had consumed alcohol. Now, an officer can demand a sample from drivers for any reason at any time.

While many Canadians have heard about that part of the new legislation, lawyers said the two-hour provision has gone unreported.
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https://globalnews.ca/news/4828694/i...-tests-police/

Returning bottles to the Beer Store? Beware of possible breath test by police
Taking back bottles to the Beer Store? A Mississauga man discovered this past weekend that it can lead to a breath test for alcohol by police.


“He said, ‘I saw you at the Beer Store and to me you were taking back, what looked like in my opinion, an excessive amount of bottles,’” said Art, a 70-year-old Streetsville resident. He asked Global News not to use his surname.

At around Noon on Saturday, Art went to his local Ontario Beer Store and returned about three dozen beer bottles and 10 wine bottles, which his family had accumulated over the holiday season.

READ MORE: Civil rights advocates question Canada’s new impaired driving law — but feds say don’t worry

Minutes later, Art said he was pulled over in a traffic stop by a police officer who asked if he’d been drinking. He said he had not.

During the discussion, Art said the officer demanded a roadside breath sample. He asked what would happen if he did not provide it. The officer told him he would face arrest, a criminal charge, and a licence suspension.

Art agreed to provide the breath sample, passed the test, and was on his way.

“I felt like I was violated in a way. They shouldn’t have that right to pull a person over unless there is a good sign the person is doing something wrong,” said Art, who was not using a cellphone, hadn’t been speeding or violating any traffic rules.

READ MORE: Canada’s new impaired driving laws are now in effect — here’s what to know

He was not charged with anything during the stop, which occurred a few blocks from the beer store where the police officer had been watching him.

Until the change, which came into effect in December, Canadian police required reasonable suspicion a driver had alcohol in their bloodstream before insisting on a breath sample. Changes to federal legislation now permit police to demand a sample without cause.

“What I want all Canadian drivers to understand is the likelihood of getting caught, should you make the criminal choice to drive under the influence of alcohol or drugs, the likelihood is about to increase exponentially because the police have new authorities and new tools,” said Bill Blair, Minister of Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction, in an announcement on Dec. 4. Blair is also a former chief of police in Toronto.

“Police do not need any evidential basis whatsoever to demand a sample,” said Joseph Neuberger, a Toronto-based criminal defence lawyer, who said the Peel Regional Police officer was well within his new rights to demand a sample after Art dropped off his empties at the beer store.

However, Neuberger expressed deep concerns over the changes, which give police powers to ask for breath samples even when someone is no longer driving or near their vehicle.

It’s part of another section of the legislation, which states that any driver “commits an offence who has within two hours after ceasing to operate a motor vehicle” is still over the legal alcohol limit.

Neuberger said under the rules, nothing stops police from going to a someone’s home, or to a bar, to demand a sample from someone under suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol.

“They’re driving on the road, they’re heading home and they arrive at home, go in to watch the hockey game, crack open a few bottles of beer or have a scotch or something,” he explained.

READ MORE: Ontario Provincial Police have new ways to deter distracted, impaired driving

“A person who saw the person driving has called it in, police arrive at the house, knock on the door, person answers the door and they say, ‘Sir, we have had a complaint about your driving, we need you to provide a roadside sample.’

If the person refuses to provide the sample, he or she could be charged

He also said police could approach a driver in a drinking establishment and make the same demand.

“It’s a very draconian rule, a very significant invasion of privacy,” said Neuberger.

Neuberger said he believes the new provisions are troubling and will likely be tested, and possibly overturned, in courts.

“This isn’t about the carnage on the roads, it’s about civil liberties,” he said.

“How far do we want to go that we up our rights to privacy to ensure some protection against a danger?”
Cliffs:

-cops in Canada can come to your house and test you for alcohol 2 hours AFTER you drive and charge you with DUI

-if you drive to a restaurant/bar and are inside drinking with intentions to take taxi/uber you can still be tested/charged

-refusal can lead to arrest






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post 1570838131 01-10-2019, 03:48 PM
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What if i go hime and immediately start drinking
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What’s this all aboot?
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Lol, cucks voted for this?
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Originally Posted By TurkBrah
What if i go hime and immediately start drinking
well you could be charged with dui brah
post 1570838651 01-10-2019, 03:55 PM
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in on impending canada v america cop war
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So Trudeau wants to legalize green plants but if your caught drinking at your house you could be arrested????
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I got pulled over today by the cops in toronto because i had a dealership plate HALF over my province plate - with the provincial logo still visibly showing so you could tell what province it was - and they pulled me over saying they didnty know what province my license plate was from and they came out with 2 cops ready to get heated. Cop state is ****ed in canada now
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Just saw a video of cops in Van in buses spying on drivers and notifying back up which car to pull over. They got a soccer mom in a minivan for texting n driving.


Jeez seems really invasive, I thought we had it bad in Washington.
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...And my favourite part as per usual: "comments closed"

Can't have the tax payers who are forced to pay for garbage, biased, news outlets like Global and CBC discussing political affairs in a public forum. Just pay your bloated taxes and take the new Draconian laws on the chin.

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Forget the breathalyzer, anyone who votes for Trudeau again needs a mandatory IQ and mental illness test to determine if they are fit to be driving.
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Any lawyer would be able to shred a drunk driving charge based on blowing over at home. Someone did tell me a story once about a guy who was driving after drinking and got into an accident. I don't remember the details of the accident (if there was even another car involved or if he just hit a road sign or something) but supposedly he took off and went home and started drinking. The cops came to his house and he answered the door with a drink in his hand and admitted it was him. He told them he was so shaken he had a few drinks to calm his nerves but he was sober when he was driving and they couldn't prove he wasn't. I'd guess this law was meant to prevent people gaming the system like this.
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...And my favourite part as per usual: "comments closed"
Ya that rustled me hard this morning. They do it on alot of articles...
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New years is gonna be wild for these sales.... i mean policemen.
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Bu...bu...but free schools and health care.
Maybe they can raise taxes 10% higher on everyone to get "free" duis and "free" car insurance too.
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts
Any lawyer would be able to shred a drunk driving charge based on blowing over at home. Someone did tell me a story once about a guy who was driving after drinking and got into an accident. I don't remember the details of the accident (if there was even another car involved or if he just hit a road sign or something) but supposedly he took off and went home and started drinking. The cops came to his house and he answered the door with a drink in his hand and admitted it was him. He told them he was so shaken he had a few drinks to calm his nerves but he was sober when he was driving and they couldn't prove he wasn't. I'd guess this law was meant to prevent people gaming the system like this.
lol you think that doesn't happen often? people do this as a criminal defense, often
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cant they do the same thing in the US?
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts
Any lawyerwould be able to shred a drunk driving charge based on blowing over at home. Someone did tell me a story once about a guy who was driving after drinking and got into an accident. I don't remember the details of the accident (if there was even another car involved or if he just hit a road sign or something) but supposedly he took off and went home and started drinking. The cops came to his house and he answered the door with a drink in his hand and admitted it was him. He told them he was so shaken he had a few drinks to calm his nerves but he was sober when he was driving and they couldn't prove he wasn't. I'd guess this law was meant to prevent people gaming the system like this.
Any lawyer would still charge a solid $10 000 for this plus the excessive stress of dealing with all this.

But your story is correct, it becomes very hard to prove that someone was drunk while driving if he gets caught later on
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Originally Posted By QuadraQuint
Few years ago, similar chit nearly happened to me. I had a car hood leather protector over my car and it covered an inch of my front license plate. It was 12 am, I just left my martial arts gym, me and my friend, and we were going 40km on a 60km road because it was icy af. Got pulled over and they just started asking us a bunch of questions. You could straight up tell they were looking for a reason to book us and then they nailed me with that $120 fine for aforementioned.
disregard PM, just seen this now. Yeah I was in North York area. They are really trying to generate revenue or bully people unethically, i've seen salesmen look for less reasons to make money
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So are police just going around randomly to houses and entering so they can breathalyze people ? I don’t understand how they can enter up to two hours after you’re home , how would they even know unless they followed you home ?
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Originally Posted By Mobraelite
So are police just going around randomly to houses and entering so they can breathalyze people ? I don’t understand how they can enter up to two hours after you’re home , how would they even know unless they followed you home ?
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Originally Posted By ANIMALISTIKZ
lol you think that doesn't happen often? people do this as a criminal defense, often
I'm sure it does if even I'd heard of it. The op is misleading though. It makes it sound like you can just be minding your business at home after driving home from work or whatever and the cops can just show up at your house and demand a breathalyzer test and charge you with drunk driving.

Also the part about demanding a breathalyzer at a bar and charging you without having gotten into your car also sounds suspect. How can they prove you weren't going to let a sober friend drive, or call someone to pick you up, or take the bus or a cab etc...
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Originally Posted By Mobraelite
So are police just going around randomly to houses and entering so they can breathalyze people ? I don’t understand how they can enter up to two hours after you’re home , how would they even know unless they followed you home ?
The scenario is, somebody gets mad at you for whatever reason, a percieved cut off or whatever, calls the cops on you reports your license plate, you go home start watching hockey or football game with a couple brewskis/cocktails and boom DUI
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
The scenario is, somebody gets mad at you for whatever reason, a percieved cut off or whatever, calls the cops on you reports your license plate, you go home start watching hockey or football game with a couple brewskis/cocktails and boom DUI
I predict a huge increase in car accidents on game day as everyone makes their woman chauffeur them around.
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts
I'm sure it does if even I'd heard of it. The op is misleading though. It makes it sound like you can just be minding your business at home after driving home from work or whatever and the cops can just show up at your house and demand a breathalyzer test and charge you with drunk driving.

Also the part about demanding a breathalyzer at a bar and charging you without having gotten into your car also sounds suspect. How can they prove you weren't going to let a sober friend drive, or call someone to pick you up, or take the bus or a cab etc...
Yeah but is the only "Warrant" that they need (not by definition - but by application) to get into your house is a witness to you drinking? If so there are many mediums for entrapment now
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