I heard about this long time ago and didn't bother to check it out and finally I am starting to grasp everything about it now and it can actually make you ripped year round while gaining muscle. This is a superior diet guys imho.

#ketoFTW

brb you're always on a fat burning mode each time you eat and workout

Being ripped is by definition simply just a low amount of fat relative to everything else. Being fat is due to an excess of calories, eating more calories than your body is putting to use elsewhere, stored to be used for a later date.

So you're saying there is something about carbs specifically, that makes people have a high amount of fat relative to everything else?

Been mostly keto the last year and the cramping is bad. I even supplement mag/pot and other things. Eat plenty of veggies and get enough salt. It's strange.

in on Keto diet. it's great!

Protein, Fat, and Carbohydrates do not all have the same effect on the body. Cals in and Cals out is flawed to an extent.

What exactly is your source for this information?

Are you that youtuber Eric Kenevesky?


edit: never mind he's literally 300lb now

Didn't say they had the same effect, just questioning how it is that keto(no or very little carbs), makes someone have less bodyfat than someone that eats carbs, simply from the fact that one person eats carbs, and the other does not(they eat fat, and by your own quote, costs less calories to get energy from than carbs... but that's besides the point)

Since someone being fat rather than lean is a result of excess calories, why do carbs make the someone less lean?

Even if you go the route of saying "Carbs promote hormones that make the body start storing fat", well that fat would eventually get used up, as the body would need to use it for energy.

Unless the argument is that carbs mess with someones body composition? As in they make a person weigh the same, but their mass is proportioned differently due to carbs?

without carbs you'll look flatter than an ironing board

i dunno let me check with jason blahblah

Remember,

9 cals per gram of Fat
4 cals per gram of Carb
4 cals per gram of Protein

keto is for twinks and girls. low energy pathetic weight lifting sessions and looking flat as a piece of paper. Ill never do keto again. Whatever benefits there may be its not worth it because of the downsides. You can stay lean year round eating carbs

I stay lean year round by nailing my nutritional numbers. If I want to bulk and put on a few lbs of muscle I will eat about 200-300 calories above maintainance with a few days of eating in a deficit to create a net caloric surplus of about 1200-1300 calories in the week.

The reason for 1200 calories is that there is roughly 1200 calories in 0.5lbs of muscle. So as long as you're training is on point and creating more tension week after week. Then a micro bulk adding a few pounds with minimal fat gain can be effective.

After you put on a few pounds of solid muscle, then you can go into a cut for a few weeks. Dropping your calories about 500. This way you can retain muscle and stay lean.

So I guess this would be called micro cutting/micro bulking.

I dunno, I don't think fronk yang is on keto and hes shredded af and natural. it's all macros and cals in cals out.

The good thing about Keto is that you spare muscle whileyou lose fat quickly.It may not be the best for bulking but for maintenance and fat loss, it's definitely something to consider.

Also, bulking to 30-50 lbs of muscle when you're already in great shape is unnecessary unless you're trying to compete for a bodybuilding competition. Once you reach your aesthetic physique goal, keto diet might be the best option to maintain that aesthetics.

How so? Please explain

Do some research bro...I'm an expert to explain everything...

Does your breath stink on keto?

I think mine did, but I only did it for a very short period for the lolz.

I see a lot of people go from fat to skinny fat following a keto diet. Your average fat American treats it like a crash diet and loses a lot of muscle mass with the fat

no absolutely not. juice diet or soylent diet work too.

I can stay lean all year round with overall healthy but not strict diet as long as I do some cardio.

Keto is good because if youre cutting on low calories, it allows for you to hit your protein/fat requirements, then go minimal on carbs.

Whereas if you increase carbs to like 20-30%, then youre gonna have less fat and protein.

Protein needed for the obvious reasons
Fat is needed if youre natty athlete because it helps with mind/body functions + natty test levels.

If you ever cut on low calories with VERY low fat - then goodbye morning errections/sex drive.

I always used to religiously cut using keto style diets.

However, for the last 4 weeks I've been losing ~2-3lbs a week whilst keeping my carbs up too and havent notice much difference.
usually i opt for keto because I find if I have high carbs, then i'll hold water.

However, if I consistently have medium/high carbs - then im going to more or less consistently be holding the same amount of water. And why does it matter if i hold 3-4lbs of water if im not at my end goal anyway. Its purely so I can feel like i "look better" than I actually do.

I also found that if i go low carbs, then my cravings are insane. i want to overeat/overinduldge in high carbs/fat food and always end up eating way more than I should when I cheat on my diet. So by having some carbs in my diet, I found that overall I was much more satisfied on low calories and much more likely to stick with diet in terms of day to day consistency and week on week.

e.g. Keto is a mind**** if you go out to eat with friends. Or it ****s you up and you feel so bad if you do like 10 days low carbs, then youre forced to have high carbs one day because you will gain like 2-4lbs overnight with water.

Long story short, for me ; Im planning on cutting down to 10% with carbs (which im doing now) then in the final stages (10% to 8%, like the last 4-8lbs of fat) I will just drop the carbs out completely to shed the water.

I have no idea what its like to maintain single digit bodyfat though, I cant really comment on that. I've probably got down to like 10% at the leanest before, but I literally went straight on holiday and went full yolo with my diet and probs put on like 15lbs in 1 month. rip

You come off keto you will put on about 5 lbs of water when your muscles intake the water while refilling glycogen stores.

You would look less cut than before if your body fat was very low.

just run a normal diet

low carbs high protien

on gym day , have some high glycemic carbs 30 mins before hitting the gym and low glycemic carbs after you finish the gym ... been doing this for a billion years and couldnt be better

My problem with keto is it's antisocial as ****. Keto breath is disgusting, I remember when my ex and I would go train in the mornings on keto, talking to each other during was a true labour of love.

Also alcohol kicks you out of ketosis. Also it's a pain to eat with your friends.

I just eat clean and adjust my calories accordingly and i have noticed a big improvement in my mood and body composition. keto isn't really something that has interested me. whatever works for you

Most of you that say they’re on keto aren’t even doing a real keto diet. Are you really consuming 80% fat and 20% protein? Or just doing some half assed low carb diet with tons of chicken breast and calling that keto?

Tried keto but was flat as phuck and had no energy for gym. I think the problem is the bad fats like trans fat not carbs..

L-taurine, 3-5 grams a day