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A misc bedtime story (very long) (toolbox killers)
If you're wondering how the death penalty can still exist in the liberal hellscape that is California, many proponents point to these two guys as reason #1 - Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris, aka the toolbox killers
Bittaker (the leader)
Norris
Cliffs:
- Met in prison in the late 70's and hatched a plan to kidnap, rape, and murder young girls
- They make a few practice runs to see how to best get girls into their torture van, first few girls they let go
- Start doing it for real, kidnapping girls and driving them onto a mountain road
- Mercilessly tortured girls over the span of hours, sometimes days
- Known to have used tools to rip off nipples and all sorts of fukked up stuff, I won't get into details here
- When they finished, the girls were killed by stabbing with an ice pick through the ear hole and strangling with a wire coat hanger tightened with pliers before chucking them into a ravine
- BRAGGED to their friends about what they were doing, one of which had daughters and ratted them out
- Norris tried to get rid of the evidence, but forgot about an audio tape that they left in the van
- Here is a transcript of what was on that audio tape featuring 16 year old Shirley Ledford(DISTURBING, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED):
The tape was never released to the public, but is still used by the FBI to desensitize agents. Supposedly FBI allowed actors from ilence of the Lambs hear the entire tape.
- They were convicted of 5 murders, true number of victims unknown but thought to be more
- One detective committed suicide, citing this case as one of the reasons. One of the jurors also killed herself years later, blaming PTSD as well.
- Everyone involved in the case permanently messed up, to say the least
- Bittaker has been on death row almost 40 years, still signs all his[i]fan mail[/i]as "Pliers Bittaker"
Bittaker (the leader)
Norris
Cliffs:
- Met in prison in the late 70's and hatched a plan to kidnap, rape, and murder young girls
- They make a few practice runs to see how to best get girls into their torture van, first few girls they let go
- Start doing it for real, kidnapping girls and driving them onto a mountain road
- Mercilessly tortured girls over the span of hours, sometimes days
- Known to have used tools to rip off nipples and all sorts of fukked up stuff, I won't get into details here
- When they finished, the girls were killed by stabbing with an ice pick through the ear hole and strangling with a wire coat hanger tightened with pliers before chucking them into a ravine
- BRAGGED to their friends about what they were doing, one of which had daughters and ratted them out
- Norris tried to get rid of the evidence, but forgot about an audio tape that they left in the van
- Here is a transcript of what was on that audio tape featuring 16 year old Shirley Ledford(DISTURBING, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED):
Bittaker: (Slapping Shirley) Say something girl, huh? Huh?
Ledford: What do you want me to say?
Bittaker: Huh, huh? Say something, girl! Don’t you hit me? Huh, huh?
Bittaker: Say something girl. Huh?
Ledford: Ouch! (Shirley begins to scream)
Bittaker: Say something! C’mon! You can scream louder than that, can’t you? Huh? What’s the matter, don’t you like to scream? (Slapping sounds can be heard).
Ledford: (Screams) Oh no!
Bittaker: What’s the matter, huh? You want to try again?
Ledford: (Screams) Oh no! Don’t touch me! No!
Bittaker: Huh? You want to try again?
Ledford: On no, don’t touch me! No don’t touch me. No! No! No! No! No!
Bittaker: Want to try again?
Ledford: No, no, no, no, no, no, no!
At this point, Shirley begins to cry profusely. She begs Bittaker to stop hitting her, saying again, "No, don't touch me!" Given what Bittaker next says, it is likely Shirley curls into a ball and turns away from him as she weeps.
Bittaker: Roll over girl.
Ledford: No don’t touch me!
Bittaker: Roll over!
Ledford: (Pleading tone in voice) Don’t touch me.
Bittaker: (Slapping Shirley) Start getting to work, girl!
Ledford: Don’t touch me!
Bittaker: Start getting to work girl!
Ledford: (Crying) Don’t touch me! Don't touch me!
Bittaker: Get to work, girl!
Ledford: Don’t touch me.
Bittaker: Roll over. I’m not asking you; I’m telling you!
Bittaker: Roll over!
Ledford: (Crying sounds can be heard).
Bittaker: C’mon, C’mon, C’mon!
Bittaker: What are you dong? What are you doing?
Ledford: Huh?
Bittaker: What are you doing?
Ledford: I’m not doing anything; I’m trying to do what you wanted me to do.
Bittaker: What did I want you to do?
Ledford: Suck on it.
Bittaker: Suck on what?
Ledford: This.
Bittaker: What's this?
Ledford: Your dick.
Bittaker: Yeah? Say it.
Ledford: Your dick.
Bittaker: You’re sucking on my dick?
Ledford: That’s what you wanted me to do?
Bittaker: Is that what you’re doing?
Ledford: Yes, I was.
Bittaker: Tell me.
Ledford: Yes.
Bittaker: Tell me what are you doing?
Ledford: I’m sucking on your dick.
Bittaker: Do you want to do it?
Ledford: You want me to?
Bittaker: You want to, girl? Do you want to suck my dick baby? Huh, huh, hey? Start answering me! (Beating sounds can be heard).
Ledford: Yes.
Bittaker: Tell me.
Ledford: Yes.
Bittaker: Beg me.
Ledford: Yes.
Bittaker: What, hey what do you want girl?
Ledford: I want to suck on your dick.
Bittaker: You don’t sound like you really mean it. (Slapping sounds)
Ledford: I do.
Bittaker: (Laughing) Suck on it then! C’mon start sucking on it. No matter what you can do, squeeze hard you understand, and if it hurts any time you want to scream, go ahead and scream.
Ledford: Oh no! (Screams)
Bittaker: Scream, baby! Go ahead and scream! Scream, baby!
At this point, after Bittaker had forced Shirley to fellate him, repeated sounds of an administered beating, interspersed with loud screams can be heard as Bittaker savagely beat Shirley about the breasts and, to a lesser degree, head. Bittaker then extracted his pliers from the tool box. Shirley then emits several high-pitched, prolonged screams and cries of agony as Bittaker alternately squeezes and twists her labia, clitoris, nipples and breasts with the pliers. Bittaker then returns the pliers to the tool box. Banging sounds can also be heard throughout, which are believed to have been made as Shirley came into contact with the walls and inner contents of the van as she writhed and flailed.
Ledford: My God! Please stop it! (Screams)
Bittaker: Is the recorder going?
Norris: Yeah!
Bittaker: Scream baby! Scream some, baby.
Ledford: I can’t!
Bittaker: Scream some more baby. Come baby. Come on. Nobody is going to hurt you. Turn over and talk to me nice. Love me. You want nothing more in the world than to make me cum. Huh?
Ledford: (Still crying, says something unintelligible which ends with her saying "that’s right.")
Bittaker: Say it again baby. What do you want huh? What do you want?
Ledford: Your cock.
Bittaker: Where do you want it baby, huh?
Ledford: I want to hold it and squeeze it.
Bittaker: Why?
Ledford: It feels good, cause you like it and I like it.
Bittaker: You want me to cum baby.
Ledford: Oh yeah.
Bittaker: You want me to cum, yeah? Want me to come, tell me baby. (Beating and slapping sounds)
Ledford: Yeah.
Bittaker: Tell me!
Ledford: Yeah.
Bittaker: Huh?
Ledford: Oh yeah.
Bittaker: Hey girl, you want me to put a pair of pliers up your ****?
Ledford: What?
Bittaker: You want to make me cum huh? You want to make me cum huh?
Bittaker: Huh? Want to make me cum girl, huh?
Ledford: Oh yes (Scream)
Bittaker: Yes what?
Ledford: I want you to cum. Cum. (Scream). Come on.
Shirley Ledford then screams in agony as Bittaker inserts the pliers inside her vagina and twists them, tearing her.
Bittaker: Stop screaming at me, come on talk to me!
Ledford: Cum, cum, cum. Please cum, cum, cum, cum.
Bittaker: Where do you want me to cum, baby?
Ledford: I want you to cum.
Bittaker: Where do you want me to cum?
Ledford: I want you to cum.
Bittaker: Where do you want me to cum?
Ledford: Your cock. I want you to cum.
Bittaker: Cum where?
Ledford: Cum.
Bittaker: Cum where? Where do you want me to cum?
Ledford: In me.
Bittaker: Where?
Ledford: Cum.
Bittaker: Where?
Ledford: All over. All over.
Ledford: (Scream). No, no, no, no, no, no. (Scream)
Bittaker: Is the recorder going?
Norris: What?
Bittaker: Is the recorder going?
Norris: (Emphasis) Yeah!
Ledford: Oh no, no, no! Oh no! (Sobbing sounds)
A sharp, shrill scream, followed by wailing sounds follow. It is believed to be at this point when Bittaker, having already sodomized Shirley, inserted the pliers into her rectum and twisted them, tearing her and splitting the lining inside her rectum. Banging sounds can again be heard as Shirley came into contact with the walls and inner contents of the van as she again writhed and flailed.
Ledford: (Screaming). No! No! No! Oh, oh! (Screaming)
At this point, Norris traded places with Bittaker as Shirley lay crying and moaning in the back of the van. Three of the four victims previously killed had all been vaginally raped by Norris, but as Bittaker had viciously torn Shirley's genitals and rectum with his pliers, causing her to bleed, Norris did not vaginally or anally rape her. Instead, Norris forced the already agonized girl to fellate him, then switched on the tape recorder himself.
Norris: Make noise there, girl. Go ahead and scream or I'll make you scream!
Ledford: (Loud, pleading tone) I'll scream if you stop hitting me!
Norris: (Enthusiastic tone in voice) Oh yeah?
Ledford: (Screaming)
Norris: Keep it up girl!
Ledford: (Sreaming)
Norris: More!
Ledford: (Screaming)
Norris: 'Till I say stop!
Ledford: (Screaming)
Unintelligible sounds are heard, interspersed with sounds of Shirley Ledford crying and moaning.
Sounds of Norris extracting the sledgehammer from the tool box can then be heard as Shirley, seeing him do this, again begins crying and shouts, "Oh no! No! Oh!" She then screams in fear, again shouts "Oh, no, no!" before again screaming.
Norris strikes Shirley on the elbow.
Ledford: You broke it!
Norris: I barely hit it.
Ledford: (Pleading and sobbing) Don't hit me again!
Norris: Oh yeah?
Norris can be heard lifting the sledgehammer from either the floor of the van or, possibly, the wooden frame of the bed the two had constructed in the rear of the van.
Ledford: (Screaming) No! No! No! No! No! (Bludgeoning sounds can be heard, interspersed with repeated high-pitched screams)
Ledford: No! No! No! No! No! (Scream) Oh no! No! No! No!
Shirley is struck 25 times in succession on the left elbow by Norris, who repeatedly fractures her left elbow. Each time the hammer strikes her, a piercing scream can be heard. At one point, she may have tried to say something, but her voice had become an unintelligible mass of pain.
Norris: How's that?
Bittaker: (Driving) What's going on?
Norris: I was just beating on her elbows with the hammer.
Bittaker: Ah!
Ledford: Oh! (Screams as Norris again repeatedly strikes her elbow with the hammer).
Norris: What are you sniveling about?
Ledford: (Scream). No! Oh. Owww! I, (Repeated screams).
Ledford: (Screams).
The tape recorder is then switched off before Norris strangles Shirley by tristing a wire coat hanger around her neck.The last words Shirley Lynette Ledford spoke at the end of her short life were, "Do it. Just kill me!"
At 26:46, you can hear the tape being played in the courtroomLedford: What do you want me to say?
Bittaker: Huh, huh? Say something, girl! Don’t you hit me? Huh, huh?
Bittaker: Say something girl. Huh?
Ledford: Ouch! (Shirley begins to scream)
Bittaker: Say something! C’mon! You can scream louder than that, can’t you? Huh? What’s the matter, don’t you like to scream? (Slapping sounds can be heard).
Ledford: (Screams) Oh no!
Bittaker: What’s the matter, huh? You want to try again?
Ledford: (Screams) Oh no! Don’t touch me! No!
Bittaker: Huh? You want to try again?
Ledford: On no, don’t touch me! No don’t touch me. No! No! No! No! No!
Bittaker: Want to try again?
Ledford: No, no, no, no, no, no, no!
At this point, Shirley begins to cry profusely. She begs Bittaker to stop hitting her, saying again, "No, don't touch me!" Given what Bittaker next says, it is likely Shirley curls into a ball and turns away from him as she weeps.
Bittaker: Roll over girl.
Ledford: No don’t touch me!
Bittaker: Roll over!
Ledford: (Pleading tone in voice) Don’t touch me.
Bittaker: (Slapping Shirley) Start getting to work, girl!
Ledford: Don’t touch me!
Bittaker: Start getting to work girl!
Ledford: (Crying) Don’t touch me! Don't touch me!
Bittaker: Get to work, girl!
Ledford: Don’t touch me.
Bittaker: Roll over. I’m not asking you; I’m telling you!
Bittaker: Roll over!
Ledford: (Crying sounds can be heard).
Bittaker: C’mon, C’mon, C’mon!
Bittaker: What are you dong? What are you doing?
Ledford: Huh?
Bittaker: What are you doing?
Ledford: I’m not doing anything; I’m trying to do what you wanted me to do.
Bittaker: What did I want you to do?
Ledford: Suck on it.
Bittaker: Suck on what?
Ledford: This.
Bittaker: What's this?
Ledford: Your dick.
Bittaker: Yeah? Say it.
Ledford: Your dick.
Bittaker: You’re sucking on my dick?
Ledford: That’s what you wanted me to do?
Bittaker: Is that what you’re doing?
Ledford: Yes, I was.
Bittaker: Tell me.
Ledford: Yes.
Bittaker: Tell me what are you doing?
Ledford: I’m sucking on your dick.
Bittaker: Do you want to do it?
Ledford: You want me to?
Bittaker: You want to, girl? Do you want to suck my dick baby? Huh, huh, hey? Start answering me! (Beating sounds can be heard).
Ledford: Yes.
Bittaker: Tell me.
Ledford: Yes.
Bittaker: Beg me.
Ledford: Yes.
Bittaker: What, hey what do you want girl?
Ledford: I want to suck on your dick.
Bittaker: You don’t sound like you really mean it. (Slapping sounds)
Ledford: I do.
Bittaker: (Laughing) Suck on it then! C’mon start sucking on it. No matter what you can do, squeeze hard you understand, and if it hurts any time you want to scream, go ahead and scream.
Ledford: Oh no! (Screams)
Bittaker: Scream, baby! Go ahead and scream! Scream, baby!
At this point, after Bittaker had forced Shirley to fellate him, repeated sounds of an administered beating, interspersed with loud screams can be heard as Bittaker savagely beat Shirley about the breasts and, to a lesser degree, head. Bittaker then extracted his pliers from the tool box. Shirley then emits several high-pitched, prolonged screams and cries of agony as Bittaker alternately squeezes and twists her labia, clitoris, nipples and breasts with the pliers. Bittaker then returns the pliers to the tool box. Banging sounds can also be heard throughout, which are believed to have been made as Shirley came into contact with the walls and inner contents of the van as she writhed and flailed.
Ledford: My God! Please stop it! (Screams)
Bittaker: Is the recorder going?
Norris: Yeah!
Bittaker: Scream baby! Scream some, baby.
Ledford: I can’t!
Bittaker: Scream some more baby. Come baby. Come on. Nobody is going to hurt you. Turn over and talk to me nice. Love me. You want nothing more in the world than to make me cum. Huh?
Ledford: (Still crying, says something unintelligible which ends with her saying "that’s right.")
Bittaker: Say it again baby. What do you want huh? What do you want?
Ledford: Your cock.
Bittaker: Where do you want it baby, huh?
Ledford: I want to hold it and squeeze it.
Bittaker: Why?
Ledford: It feels good, cause you like it and I like it.
Bittaker: You want me to cum baby.
Ledford: Oh yeah.
Bittaker: You want me to cum, yeah? Want me to come, tell me baby. (Beating and slapping sounds)
Ledford: Yeah.
Bittaker: Tell me!
Ledford: Yeah.
Bittaker: Huh?
Ledford: Oh yeah.
Bittaker: Hey girl, you want me to put a pair of pliers up your ****?
Ledford: What?
Bittaker: You want to make me cum huh? You want to make me cum huh?
Bittaker: Huh? Want to make me cum girl, huh?
Ledford: Oh yes (Scream)
Bittaker: Yes what?
Ledford: I want you to cum. Cum. (Scream). Come on.
Shirley Ledford then screams in agony as Bittaker inserts the pliers inside her vagina and twists them, tearing her.
Bittaker: Stop screaming at me, come on talk to me!
Ledford: Cum, cum, cum. Please cum, cum, cum, cum.
Bittaker: Where do you want me to cum, baby?
Ledford: I want you to cum.
Bittaker: Where do you want me to cum?
Ledford: I want you to cum.
Bittaker: Where do you want me to cum?
Ledford: Your cock. I want you to cum.
Bittaker: Cum where?
Ledford: Cum.
Bittaker: Cum where? Where do you want me to cum?
Ledford: In me.
Bittaker: Where?
Ledford: Cum.
Bittaker: Where?
Ledford: All over. All over.
Ledford: (Scream). No, no, no, no, no, no. (Scream)
Bittaker: Is the recorder going?
Norris: What?
Bittaker: Is the recorder going?
Norris: (Emphasis) Yeah!
Ledford: Oh no, no, no! Oh no! (Sobbing sounds)
A sharp, shrill scream, followed by wailing sounds follow. It is believed to be at this point when Bittaker, having already sodomized Shirley, inserted the pliers into her rectum and twisted them, tearing her and splitting the lining inside her rectum. Banging sounds can again be heard as Shirley came into contact with the walls and inner contents of the van as she again writhed and flailed.
Ledford: (Screaming). No! No! No! Oh, oh! (Screaming)
At this point, Norris traded places with Bittaker as Shirley lay crying and moaning in the back of the van. Three of the four victims previously killed had all been vaginally raped by Norris, but as Bittaker had viciously torn Shirley's genitals and rectum with his pliers, causing her to bleed, Norris did not vaginally or anally rape her. Instead, Norris forced the already agonized girl to fellate him, then switched on the tape recorder himself.
Norris: Make noise there, girl. Go ahead and scream or I'll make you scream!
Ledford: (Loud, pleading tone) I'll scream if you stop hitting me!
Norris: (Enthusiastic tone in voice) Oh yeah?
Ledford: (Screaming)
Norris: Keep it up girl!
Ledford: (Sreaming)
Norris: More!
Ledford: (Screaming)
Norris: 'Till I say stop!
Ledford: (Screaming)
Unintelligible sounds are heard, interspersed with sounds of Shirley Ledford crying and moaning.
Sounds of Norris extracting the sledgehammer from the tool box can then be heard as Shirley, seeing him do this, again begins crying and shouts, "Oh no! No! Oh!" She then screams in fear, again shouts "Oh, no, no!" before again screaming.
Norris strikes Shirley on the elbow.
Ledford: You broke it!
Norris: I barely hit it.
Ledford: (Pleading and sobbing) Don't hit me again!
Norris: Oh yeah?
Norris can be heard lifting the sledgehammer from either the floor of the van or, possibly, the wooden frame of the bed the two had constructed in the rear of the van.
Ledford: (Screaming) No! No! No! No! No! (Bludgeoning sounds can be heard, interspersed with repeated high-pitched screams)
Ledford: No! No! No! No! No! (Scream) Oh no! No! No! No!
Shirley is struck 25 times in succession on the left elbow by Norris, who repeatedly fractures her left elbow. Each time the hammer strikes her, a piercing scream can be heard. At one point, she may have tried to say something, but her voice had become an unintelligible mass of pain.
Norris: How's that?
Bittaker: (Driving) What's going on?
Norris: I was just beating on her elbows with the hammer.
Bittaker: Ah!
Ledford: Oh! (Screams as Norris again repeatedly strikes her elbow with the hammer).
Norris: What are you sniveling about?
Ledford: (Scream). No! Oh. Owww! I, (Repeated screams).
Ledford: (Screams).
The tape recorder is then switched off before Norris strangles Shirley by tristing a wire coat hanger around her neck.The last words Shirley Lynette Ledford spoke at the end of her short life were, "Do it. Just kill me!"
The tape was never released to the public, but is still used by the FBI to desensitize agents. Supposedly FBI allowed actors from ilence of the Lambs hear the entire tape.
- They were convicted of 5 murders, true number of victims unknown but thought to be more
- One detective committed suicide, citing this case as one of the reasons. One of the jurors also killed herself years later, blaming PTSD as well.
- Everyone involved in the case permanently messed up, to say the least
- Bittaker has been on death row almost 40 years, still signs all his[i]fan mail[/i]as "Pliers Bittaker"
07-06-2019, 05:26 PM
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Yeah... this is one of the most disturbing things I have ever read, even with skipping over a lot of the tape transcript. All I can say is that I hope there is a God so that these two pieces of **** can burn in hell for eternity.
So taxpayers have been paying for this piece of **** to stay alive for 40 years? and he has fans who send him mail??? and Norris, the accomplice, has a possibility for parole after serving 30 years. what an absolute JOKE
not surprisingly, they both had pretty messed up childhoods and demonstrated psychopathy from a young age. from wiki:
Lawrence Bittaker
Lawrence Sigmund Bittaker was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on September 27, 1940, as the unwanted child of a couple who had chosen to not have children.[9]:84 Bittaker was placed in an orphanage by his natural mother and was adopted by Mr. and Mrs. George Bittaker as an infant.
Although reported to have an IQ of 138,[12] Bittaker considered school to be a tedious experience and dropped out of high school in 1957.[9]:257 By this stage in his adolescence, he and his adoptive parents were living in California. Within a year of dropping out, he had been arrested for car theft, a hit and run, and evading arrest.[11]:250 For these offenses he was imprisoned at the California Youth Authority, where he remained until he was 18 years old.[11]:250 Upon release, Bittaker discovered his adoptive parents had disowned him and had relocated to another state. He would never see his adoptive parents again.[11]:250[9]:84
Roy Norris
Roy Lewis Norris was born in Greeley, Colorado, on February 5, 1948.[9]:74 Norris w
While living with his birth parents at the age of 16, Norris visited the home of a female relative who was in her early twenties and began speaking to her in a sexually suggestive manner. She ordered him to leave her house and informed Norris's father, who threatened to subject him to a beating. Norris subsequently stole his father's car and drove into the Rocky Mountains, where he attempted to commit suicide by injecting pure air into an artery in his arm.[9]:76 He was later apprehended as a runaway, and returned to live with his parents. Upon his return home, Norris's parents informed him that he and his younger sister were unwanted children and that they intended to divorce when both reached adolescence.
So taxpayers have been paying for this piece of **** to stay alive for 40 years? and he has fans who send him mail??? and Norris, the accomplice, has a possibility for parole after serving 30 years. what an absolute JOKE
not surprisingly, they both had pretty messed up childhoods and demonstrated psychopathy from a young age. from wiki:
Lawrence Bittaker
Lawrence Sigmund Bittaker was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on September 27, 1940, as the unwanted child of a couple who had chosen to not have children.[9]:84 Bittaker was placed in an orphanage by his natural mother and was adopted by Mr. and Mrs. George Bittaker as an infant.
Although reported to have an IQ of 138,[12] Bittaker considered school to be a tedious experience and dropped out of high school in 1957.[9]:257 By this stage in his adolescence, he and his adoptive parents were living in California. Within a year of dropping out, he had been arrested for car theft, a hit and run, and evading arrest.[11]:250 For these offenses he was imprisoned at the California Youth Authority, where he remained until he was 18 years old.[11]:250 Upon release, Bittaker discovered his adoptive parents had disowned him and had relocated to another state. He would never see his adoptive parents again.[11]:250[9]:84
Roy Norris
Roy Lewis Norris was born in Greeley, Colorado, on February 5, 1948.[9]:74 Norris w
While living with his birth parents at the age of 16, Norris visited the home of a female relative who was in her early twenties and began speaking to her in a sexually suggestive manner. She ordered him to leave her house and informed Norris's father, who threatened to subject him to a beating. Norris subsequently stole his father's car and drove into the Rocky Mountains, where he attempted to commit suicide by injecting pure air into an artery in his arm.[9]:76 He was later apprehended as a runaway, and returned to live with his parents. Upon his return home, Norris's parents informed him that he and his younger sister were unwanted children and that they intended to divorce when both reached adolescence.
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07-06-2019, 05:34 PM
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Yeah he has a whole subculture of fans who send him adoring letters, but he's literally been sitting in a tiny closet sized cell in San Quentin for 40 years. His speech is slurred and his brain is mush because he has such little human interaction. He can't leave his cell to even shower without 2 officers escorting him because he'd be instantly stomped to death by other inmates. Death would be a sweet release, imo. I hope he lives to be 120 in that cage.Yeah... this is one of the most disturbing things I have ever read, even with skipping over a lot of the tape transcript. All I can say is that I hope there is a God so that these two pieces of **** can burn in hell for eternity.
So taxpayers have been paying for this piece of **** to stay alive for 40 years? and he has fans who send him mail???
So taxpayers have been paying for this piece of **** to stay alive for 40 years? and he has fans who send him mail???
07-06-2019, 06:13 PM
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I wonder how many psychopaths we're going to have in a post 2012 world full of single mothers and neglected boys. Not sure if we'll see an uptick or they'll be completely pacified by video games and sex bots.not surprisingly, they both had pretty messed up childhoods and demonstrated psychopathy from a young age.
07-06-2019, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
I agree the death penalty isnt even the worse punishment in some cases. Prolonged torture is a far worse fate.Yeah he has a whole subculture of fans who send him adoring letters, but he's literally been sitting in a tiny closet sized cell in San Quentin for 40 years. His speech is slurred and his brain is mush because he has such little human interaction. He can't leave his cell to even shower without 2 officers escorting him because he'd be instantly stomped to death by other inmates. Death would be a sweet release, imo. I hope he lives to be 120 in that cage.
07-06-2019, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
His IQ was measured at 138, so genius level intelligence guy forced to sit in a tiny cell 23 hours day by himself. Imagine had they fried him right after the trial instead of giving him 40 years alone in timeout to think about what a demented fukk up he is. That's way worse.I agree the death penalty isnt even the worse punishment in some cases. Prolonged torture is a far worse fate.
Originally Posted By Softworn⏩
This is you.I am harder than a petrified ration now, lads.
07-06-2019, 09:50 PM
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For $1,250, you can own this kite sent from Richard "Night Stalker" Ramirez to Bittaker. You think sloots will be mirin' if I frame this and hang it on the mantle?
Imagine if these two hooked up on the outside.
Imagine if these two hooked up on the outside.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
show them girls on meet an inmate ur jail swag, they will jump on ur cawkFor $1,250, you can own this kite sent from Richard "Night Stalker" Ramirez to Bittaker. You think sloots will be mirin' if I frame this and hang it on the mantle?
Imagine if these two hooked up on the outside.
Imagine if these two hooked up on the outside.
07-06-2019, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
Bro did you ever mail a single letter?show them girls on meet an inmate ur jail swag, they will jump on ur cawk
07-06-2019, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Rooney15⏩
But why is he standing so close to this tree?these guys were fuking disgusting scumbags. So was BTK
Also, GOAT mastermind lol
BTK:Hey police, can you trace a floppy disk with a word doc on it?
Police:Uhhhh, no?
BTK:*sends word doc with meta data that leads directly to him*
Police:lol can't believe that worked, pick you up in a minute bb
BTK:You lied to me!
07-06-2019, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah⏩
The prosecutor said he had night terrors almost every night for 2 years straight where he would dream about seeing the girls getting pulled into the van and still struggles with it to this day. Seen here at 1:20, he had trouble composing himself for the press. How messed up is that?Fuk you OP you sick fukk
07-07-2019, 07:37 AM
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Why are there alot of serial killers in the US ? At least in the 80s and the 70s?
07-07-2019, 09:02 AM
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Tempted to neg.
Read the first couple paragraphs, skimd thru when the pliers were used.
Isbt there sum reddit thread / sub forum you can discuss this on instead?
Read the first couple paragraphs, skimd thru when the pliers were used.
Isbt there sum reddit thread / sub forum you can discuss this on instead?
King MANLET the 3rd
07-07-2019, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted By fahdalsheheata⏩
I think there are serial killers everywhere. US just has a lot of media around ours. Some real nutballs in russia that killed a bunch of people, but they never got much press here.Why are there alot of serial killers in the US ? At least in the 80s and the 70s?
07-07-2019, 12:08 PM
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I don’t know why sick stuff like this intrigues me, but more bedtime stories please. Interesting and morbid. Poor girls. I can’t imagine what was worse; the fear or the pain. Worst part was her last words. “Do it. Just kill me.”
07-07-2019, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By THATSfunnyOP⏩
Brah he's innocent. He said that they were just role playing. He didn't do nuffin.Tempted to neg.
Read the first couple paragraphs, skimd thru when the pliers were used.
Isbt there sum reddit thread / sub forum you can discuss this on instead?
Read the first couple paragraphs, skimd thru when the pliers were used.
Isbt there sum reddit thread / sub forum you can discuss this on instead?
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
I can imagine many were never even caught in less developed countries.I think there are serial killers everywhere. US just has a lot of media around ours. Some real nutballs in russia that killed a bunch of people, but they never got much press here.
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Yeah I read that transcript a while back in an AskReddit thread. Very graphic and disturbing.
The poor young woman experienced some excruciating pain before they killed her. Who mutilates someone genitals for fun?
The poor young woman experienced some excruciating pain before they killed her. Who mutilates someone genitals for fun?
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