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post 1610282841 07-11-2020, 12:08 PM
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What are the pros/cons of natty lifting, especially above age 30?

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Pros: stay in shape

Cons: make no gains
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Pros: Not putting that crap into your body.
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pros: easier on joints, natural strength/movement
cons: never get huge, just "toned" (which is better for chicks anyway)
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Originally Posted By KyBrah32⏩
Pros: stay in shape

Cons: make no gains
Define "staying in shape".

I'd argue that a body-fat range of 12% - 17% with regular bodyweight exercises (especially pull-ups and push-ups) will make you look "in shape", no weights needed.
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Originally Posted By D0P3SH0W⏩
pros: easier on joints, natural strength/movement
cons: never get huge, just "toned" (which is better for chicks anyway)
Thats where you are wrong *******
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post 1610283161 07-11-2020, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By D0P3SH0W⏩
pros: easier on joints, natural strength/movement
cons: never get huge, just "toned" (which is better for chicks anyway)
mind = blown that people believe in "toning" in year 2020

Toning = seeing muscles on a lowish body fat person, maximum BF% around 17%
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Originally Posted By brahskimoseph⏩
Thats where you are wrong *******
most hot chicks are 100-130lbs. they want a "toned" 180lb dude. not some huge blocky 220lb dude. at that size its too intimidating for most of them.
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main thing for me is not being an emotional rollercoaster. Can't stand pct..
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
Define "staying in shape".

I'd argue that a body-fat range of 12% - 17% with regular bodyweight exercises (especially pull-ups and push-ups) will make you look "in shape", no weights needed.
So why are you asking Otto
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Originally Posted By D0P3SH0W⏩
most hot chicks are 100-130lbs. they want a "toned" 180lb dude. not some huge blocky 220lb dude. at that size its too intimidating for most of them.
That also is not true. Walk into a club fuked up, you only really notice between short/tall and big/small/medium.

A 5’10 175 lb toned twink isnt going to have the same power in that space as a 6’4 275 lb guy.
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The cons are huge IMO, mainly these two:

-Sexual sides (testicular atrophy, brb young guy with low sperm count or sexual sides and dealing with pct crap and **** just to please your girl). This one is controllable i guess but still a risk


-Makes you age faster. Brb great body but face looks 5-10 years older. Would much rather look like an athletic and fit young guy than an incredibly ripped boomer
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Originally Posted By brahskimoseph⏩
That also is not true. Walk into a club fuked up, you only really notice between short/tall and big/small/medium.

A 5’10 175 lb toned twink isnt going to have the same power in that space as a 6’4 275 lb guy.
Chicks don’t want dudes built like brock lesnar lmao
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Originally Posted By brahskimoseph⏩
That also is not true. Walk into a club fuked up, you only really notice between short/tall and big/small/medium.

A 5’10 175 lb toned twink isnt going to have the same power in that space as a 6’4 275 lb guy.
A 6'0" lean 185 lber will be more attractive than a 6'0" lean 225 lber. Thats a freakin fact.
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Pain


The older I get the more cardio I do

I just throw in body weight for rest
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Pros - stay in shape, live a longer/happier life, mog all of your dad bod peers, confidence

Cons - gain muscle/lose fat slower than someone in their 20's or on gear - That's about it, but you just have to realize and come to grips with that fact and focus on improving yourself rather than comparing to kids 10+ years younger than you. Just because it's not as easy is no reason to LDAR, that's a weak willed pussy mindset if I ever heard it.
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the delusion and cope in this thread. just fkin LOL.

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Pros - You don't become a slave to the needle.
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts⏩
Pros - You don't become a slave to the needle.
That boils down to your own self discipline
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Originally Posted By A4min⏩
That boils down to your own self discipline
For just about everyone I've known it was all fun and games in the beginning but it inevitably ended up becoming a drug addiction, though they would never admit it.

Im sure there are exceptions but for the
majority this is how it ends up.
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Pros: stay healthy, keep away dadbod gut, good for mental health, get strong/old man strength, your s/o will be attracted to you

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Believe me, I've thought about this a lot. Anyone who's serious about BB'ing has thought about gear.

Pros of being natty...many of the above: healthier (mentally and physically), don't have to worry about blood levels or checking blood counts all the time, that proud feeling of making gains and looking good (sometimes better than those on gear) and knowing you're natty

Cons of gear from talking to friends, knowing guys on gear, homework, etc...: mental ups/downs, physical ups/downs, always needing bloodwork so not to get clots, Yes a slave to the needle. Many have said "Once you feel like Superman, who wants to feel like Clark Kent?"
Possibilities and most likely having test issues for the rest of your life, poor heart health later in life along with liver and other organs.
Having to either live a lie for the rest of your life or come out and admit it, risking who-knows-what.

At 51, as much as I wanted to earlier, I'm glad I never did. I enjoy competing in a natty organization and I wouldn't be able to if I had.
I bust my ass in the gym and with my diet. For now I'll ride my nattiness as long as I can.
Who knows; when I'm done competing and my natty levels drop....???
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Why did 50% of people ITT interpret the title incorrectly?
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Lol the misc is extremely anti tech in case you haven’t noticed. I stand by the fact that the half natty look is the best for chicks. Not a big deal if you don’t want to take that plunge, but that’s still the ideal

If you’re 30 you better have at least gotten 3 solid years of very consistent training and dieting to look like you lift.
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