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post 1610808211 07-16-2020, 05:49 PM
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How come people aren't talking about the long term damage from corona?

Even people talking about the death count rarely bring up the long term damage from survivors.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...e-in-their-20s
Severe cases of COVID-19 can cause lasting damage to the lungs that may necessitate surgery or even organ transplants.
While the majority of COVID-19 deaths have occurred in people who are older, fibrosis cases show that even young people who survive the disease can have lasting complications.
A 20-year-old COVID-19 survivor in Chicago had a lung transplant that was necessary to treat a condition now being called post-COVID fibrosis.
Although i guess its still too early to talk about "long term" maybe, right now everyone pretty much treats it as if there's only 2 outcomes if you get the virus
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long term thread is long term
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Virus that is newly discovered

Long term damage found


...pick one, paniccel *******
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Are these long term issues caused by being hooked up to a ventilator?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/h...ransplant.html

Edit, yes, yes they are.
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Originally Posted By IronBrahh⏩
Even people talking about the death count rarely bring up the long term damage from survivors.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...e-in-their-20s




Although i guess its still too early to talk about "long term" maybe, right now everyone pretty much treats it as if there's only 2 outcomes if you get the virus
I'm pretty convinced that the "long term damage" actually comes from the treatment a lot of COVID patients are getting, as opposed to the virus itself. I don't care who you are-if you get put into an induced coma and hooked up to a ventilator, your ass is going to be PHUCKED UP for a while!
post 1610810871 07-16-2020, 06:17 PM
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Because none of you and none of them have been right about anything, so I will continue to ignore all of this disinformation by the same people.
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Virus that is newly discovered

Long term damage found


...pick one, paniccel *******
You are aware that you don't need to wait long term, so see if damage is long term, right? If your arm gets chopped off, you don't need to wait until 10 years from now to know if there will be long term damage.

If there is scarring in the lungs, it won't completely go away ever with the treatments we have now.

But feel free to dismiss anyone who doesn't agree with your exact view point.
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every medical issue can have long term effects


theres always unique people, unique cases, and unique circumstances


The issue is what percentage. Should we be worried if .01% of corona virus patients have long term effects, and only 15% of people exposed have symptoms, and only 20% of the population is ever exposed to it? so like .00001% of the population has long term effects from corona virus?

You can twist things to try and make things scary and incite fear to gain attention in a new story, doesnt mean its relevant
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post 1610811801 07-16-2020, 06:26 PM
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So everyone who gets it will have long term damage?
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
Are these long term issues caused by being hooked up to a ventilator?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/h...ransplant.html

Edit, yes, yes they are.
can kind of confirm. Was on long-term ventilation (not related to covid) and my vocal chords were ****ED

However, nothing in that article that you posted indicated that intubation caused any of herlung damage. Everything in the article pointed to COVID as the main reason. The Dr. stated that it was "the worse he's ever seen", but not the norm.
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Originally Posted By Suit⏩
Because none of you and none of them have been right about anything, so I will continue to ignore all of this disinformation by the same people.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
So everyone who gets it will have long term damage?
Its typical paniccel bullchit

"post-COVID fibrosis" only occurs after ARDS for which the standard treatment is ventilation
Originally Posted By irollurmom⏩
can kind of confirm. Was on long-term ventilation (not related to covid) and my vocal chords were ****ED

However, nothing in that article that you posted indicated that intubation caused any of herlung damage. Everything in the article pointed to COVID as the main reason. The Dr. stated that it was "the worse he's ever seen", but not the norm.
Of course the lugenpresse don't give impartial facts, I was posting that article because the implication in the original was the 20 year old just magically developed fibrosis and didn't mention ventilation
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The only thing that still makes me nervous about this virus is possible long term effects.
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
Of course the lugenpresse don't give impartial facts, I was posting that article because the implication in the original was the 20 year old just magically developed fibrosis and didn't mention ventilation
Yeah, but speaking from experience, ventilation induced lung damage is very rare and most-likely not what caused the 20 year old's lung damage.
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I had a bad case of corona back in December (pretty sure I had pneumonia from it).. I had a lingering dry cough that lasted well over a month.. I'm a weed smoker and a semi frequent tobacco user.. I just ran 2 miles the other day np..

hard to say the damage is permanent
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Theres so many chemicals in your food and water that have long term affects to health, and here you choose to be a panicking ******* over some virus.

You never cared about getting
- zika
- epstein-barr
- any stds that are unavoidable during sex


...and here you are, being a scared *******
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Originally Posted By irollurmom⏩
Yeah, but speaking from experience, ventilation induced lung damage is very rare and most-likely not what caused the 20 year old's lung damage.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vent...ed_lung_injury

24% for non ARDS isn't exactly very rare, and the implication is ARDS patients have a higher rate.

I wouldn't want to roll the dice on those odds
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Another coping mechanism paniccels use to further destroy the economy. At first it was that COVID kills so we need to shutdown, now it's COVID cause damages so we still need to continue shutdowns
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I’ve talked about it since day 1 since it never leaves your body apprently. Always wonder If this will give you cancer or something ceazy ina. Year or few years.
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Completely agree OP. Death toll doesn’t mean ****. If my lungs are ****ed I’d rather be dead.
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Theres so many chemicals in your food and water that have long term affects to health, and here you choose to be a panicking ******* over some virus.

You never cared about getting
- zika
- epstein-barr
- any stds that are unavoidable during sex


...and here you are, being a scared *******
We choose the foods we eat. We don’t choose viruses that enter our bodies dumbf***
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vent...ed_lung_injury

24% for non ARDS isn't exactly very rare, and the implication is ARDS patients have a higher rate.

I wouldn't want to roll the dice on those odds
True, but Ventilator-AssistedLung Inury is not the same as Ventilator-InducedLung Injury.

VALI is a more common term and only used when mechanical ventilation can't be directly tied to lung damage. Which is why it says
24 percent of people mechanically ventilated will develop VALI for reasons other than ALI or ARDS.[1] The incidence is probably higher among people who already have ALI/ARDS, but estimates vary widely.[1] The variable estimates reflect the difficulty in distinguishing VALI from progressive ALI/ARDS.[1]
Just a blanket term used to diagnose symptoms that aren't usually related to ARDS.

I don't really want to continue arguing about this because I know that ventilation can and does cause injury, just not to the the extent that you're thinking of.
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I had Covid in March and was hospitalized for 3 days with severe pneumonia, just had a follow up CT scan on my lungs 4 days ago and they look great.

But now I am on blood thinners as I’ve had a blood clot in my leg That occurred randomly and they believe it’s Covid related.

Not sure if it will be permanent with the anticoagulants but I’m hoping not.

Anyways I think the Virus affects every person differently, some might have long term damage and others might have nothing at all.
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Theres so many chemicals in your food and water that have long term affects to health, and here you choose to be a panicking ******* over some virus.

You never cared about getting
- zika
- epstein-barr
- any stds that are unavoidable during sex


...and here you are, being a scared *******
This this and this just lol @ panicels

So many things u do daily can be bad for u long term OP.
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Originally Posted By irollurmom⏩
True, but Ventilator-AssistedLung Inury is not the same as Ventilator-InducedLung Injury.

VALI is a more common term and only used when mechanical ventilation can't be directly tied to lung damage. Which is why it says


Just a blanket term used to diagnose symptoms that aren't usually related to ARDS.

I don't really want to continue arguing about this because I know that ventilation can and does cause injury, just not to the the extent that you're thinking of.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa050333

This seems to be the latest large scale study on the incidence of VILI, significantly adjusting up the risk factor

Still not a chance I'd like to risk.
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
Theres so many chemicals in your food and water that have long term affects to health, and here you choose to be a panicking ******* over some virus.

You never cared about getting
- zika
- epstein-barr
- any stds that are unavoidable during sex


...and here you are, being a scared *******
1) Caused by mosquito bites, sexual transmission, or through blood. Def not the same
2) also caused through saliva or sexual transmission
3) but who was condoms?
Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa050333

This seems to be the latest large scale study on the incidence of VILI, significantly adjusting up the risk factor

Still not a chance I'd like to risk.
At the end of the day, if ventilation is required, you don't really have a say in the matter. You're either unresponsive or too weak to breathe on your own. It's a risk you'll inevitably have to take, regardless of the data.
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Originally Posted By DarthRaizer09⏩
I had Covid in March and was hospitalized for 3 days with severe pneumonia, just had a follow up CT scan on my lungs 4 days ago and they look great.

But now I am on blood thinners as I’ve had a blood clot in my leg That occurred randomly and they believe it’s Covid related.

Not sure if it will be permanent with the anticoagulants but I’m hoping not.

Anyways I think the Virus affects every person differently, some might have long term damage and others might have nothing at all.
the only reason they said it was covid related was because they didnt want to do additional work and just blamed it on the covid being lazy fuks.
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Originally Posted By Eatforgains⏩
I had a bad case of corona back in December (pretty sure I had pneumonia from it).. I had a lingering dry cough that lasted well over a month.. I'm a weed smoker and a semi frequent tobacco user.. I just ran 2 miles the other day np..

hard to say the damage is permanent
thats it this guy changed everything, open everything up, throw the masks and gloves away, ITS HARD TO SAY THE DAMAGE IS PERMANENT!!!
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