Just think about one of the most fundamental basics of the strength of a country - entrepreneurial-ism, and compare the spirit in the West vs China.

Entrepreneurial sentiment:
China: Bringing prosperity to your family/village/country
West:Taking opportunities from oppressed groups

China: Celebrated by everyone
West:"You didn't build that"

China: From rags to riches - literally moving up from peasant status
West: Undeserved "privilege".

China: Everyone is connected by similar goals: moving up economically.
West: Everyone is factioned off by wealth, race, religion, politics. Goals are split - some are pro growth, some are pro equality/social justice.

Hiring opportunities:
China: Wealth of people eager to work
West: Rather get unemployment than sell-out and work for the man.

China: Full of STEM degrees; emphasis on education + hard work
West: Full of soft degrees; emphasis on 'living life', experimenting in youth.

China: Pursuit of creating wealth. That means doing and making things other people value.
West: Pursuit of your dreams - dream job. Doesn't matter how economically viable as long as you love what you're doing.

China: No safety net other than family - who will also expect you to be productive so you can take care of your parents.
West: No incentive to work; government or parents will take care of you. Parents have no expectations from their kids.

Regulations:
China: not 100% on this one, but I know the gov't will cover up whatever they can if you're a productive company (and in with the CCP)
West: 1000's of burdensome requirements for new businesses. Only established Fortune 500 doing well at the moment.


Is the game already over? Should we just lay down and rot?

all of the best tech is born in the USA. the USA is the great innovator, China is the great copier.

there's something special about the USA - we have the special sauce.

The west is already finished. It's full of fat, emasculated, cuck simps, who dedicate their lives to worshiping internet thots and bbc.


China is just waiting for us to deteriorate just a bit further before they take over.

So far. Human capital is the most important driver of economic growth - and we aren't doing very good at raising the next generation keep innovating. Meanwhile in China, all of the copying is just 'catching up' and learning = higher human capital. You are right - but the trajectory is up for china and down for the US.

This tech is developed within US companies, but their top scientists are all foreigners, mainly from China and India.

Fuking lol if you think US born individuals are leading the tech race. The average american is barely able to pass high school algebra.

Another point is savings rates.

Median American has $5,200 dollars saved. Median Chinese saves 33% of their income.

Chinese men are striving to own a home so they can get a girl and start a family. How the phuck do you compete against "save for a home or die a virgin"?

i'm old enough to remember when everyone said that Japan was going to rule the world (1980's).

Never bet against America!!!

OP, go read some Peter Zeihan and educate yourself.

or maybe the us economy is already matured i.e maxed out and it has nothing to do with 'spirit'

OP - you know how I know you've never actually been to China?

90% of the people there are slaves in sweatshops, toiling their lives away until they drop dead so that a few guys in Vancouver can drive Lambos around.

Western society is a mess. I've been going to different towns and cities lately trying to get away and i've been trying to look past all of this political crap but it's literally embedded everywhere. They even require masks in small towns. MLB is carving BLM into the mound. Can't go on any social media without seeing 90% of the posts about political stuff. Everyone that isn't an alpha male seems to be a simp. Women have too much power. I could go on and on. It's just a mess.

Just put him into the queue to listen to - thanks.