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post 1612798301 08-06-2020, 07:14 PM
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Cultural Liberals and Economic Conservatives ruined America

Gay rights, BLM, mass immigration, Marxism in universities, materialism, etc should have never happened.

You cut taxes on people and reduce social services = you get the people you want to be having kids (middle class educated) not having kids because there's no incentives and not enough social services for everyone.

Then the dregs will pop out dozen kids cuz dont give a sht + welfare increase since wages are so sht that if your working poor you basically cant afford health care + rent + food + transpiration.

Funny how libs worship academia and education when that institution is ruthlessly capitalist and crony, they just teach kids far left stuff. just like pretty much everything else, woke/liberal on the surface but operating under the most despicable forms of capitalism imaginable.

America has become more political and economically conservative ruining people's lives and making important things like housing and education expensive (while iphones go down) but thats its okay, BUT if you dont support Samuel's right to transition to Samantha at age 8 youre a hopeless bigot

Nothing can change my mind on this. America needs to be Socialist and Christian like it was in the 60s-70s.

Bozo should be taxed into oblivion and the guard should arrest every BLM protester on sight during covid
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Socially liberal meant something different 20 years ago. Economically conservative did too.

20 years ago:
Socially liberal was government should stay out of people's personal lives.
Economically conservative was government should stay out of people's wallets.

Today:
Socially liberal means you hate white people(or yourself).
Economically conservative means the government should support corporate welfare.
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A lot of what you say is correct. But socialism isn't the answer. Neoliberalism and conservatism (hasn't conserved anything tbh) is a joke.

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Since the late 1970s when Nixon opened up relations with China, factories have been moving to Mexico/China/etc because unions became too strong in the US and made it so our products were no longer competitive.

In 1980, Flint Michigan was a place where someone could graduate high school and have a job earning $70,000 per year right away. Now 40 years later, anyone who has been there will tell you it's one of the biggest chithole places in the US with one of the largest rates of poverty.

This extreme "liberalism" only thrives in an environment where people don't see themselves having any skin in the game and don't see themselves as having any great future. They don't get married, don't have any kids, don't view themselves as having any great opportunity. Most people who aren't crazy church people aren't extreme social conservatives nowadays regardless of their political persuasion.

The reason Trump has widespread appeal is because these people know opportunity and hope is what will bring their communities back to the natural conservative/family/happy state. People who are too economically conservative don't have thriving communities, but when there's hope more people spend. COVID will bring things back in this direction very quickly, and it's the catalyst to bringing the US back on top of the global economy. The next 20 years will be very good in the US.
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Originally Posted By lockdev
Socially liberal meant something different 20 years ago. Economically conservative did too.

20 years ago:
Socially liberal was government should stay out of people's personal lives.
Economically conservative was government should stay out of people's wallets.

Today:
Socially liberal means you hate white people(or yourself).
Economically conservative means the government should support corporate welfare.
This is incredibly accurate. I'm disgusted with what Republicans have become and I'm becoming very disenchanted with post-Obama Democrats as well.
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I think they should discourage promiscuity and drug use, reduce the military, seek peace and diplomacy over war, focus on STEM, protect the environment, promote a free and competitive market (reduce patents, trademarks, and copyrights), cut taxes, cut most welfare, cut social security (people should be expected to care for their parents), stop funding sports, cut most public education to bare minimum required to maintain test scores, and promote equal opportunity and rights under the law. Govt healthcare could be done depending on if it is cheaper and more efficient than private. Oh and discourage religious influence on the state, but let religions practice their chit where it doesn't hurt anyone.

SO IDK what that would be...

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Originally Posted By lockdev
Socially liberal meant something different 20 years ago. Economically conservative did too.

20 years ago:
Socially liberal was government should stay out of people's personal lives.
Economically conservative was government should stay out of people's wallets.

Today:
Socially liberal means you hate white people(or yourself).
Economically conservative means the government should support corporate welfare.
Extremely legit.
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post 1612801101 08-06-2020, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By TheLaughingCow2
This is incredibly accurate. I'm disgusted with what Republicans have become and I'm becoming very disenchanted with post-Obama Democrats as well.
One of Obama's quotes after leaving office was "they tried to do too much in terms of moving the country left". America was ready for some of the items they tried(clearly it was time for the US to have a conversation about race and improving the overall outcomes of black residents), but when they tried to push Caitlyn Jenner on the population for an entire 6 month period it was too much. All of a sudden there were a ton of kids considering changing sex, which isn't something that should happen at that age.

If they used discretion, Obama could have moved the country slightly left in a meaningful way. But they attempted to do way too much and things lurched in the other direction.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
The next 20 years will be very good in the US.
Disagree. The internet has absolutely ravaged the fabric of modern society over the past 10 years.

- money and power have become concentrated in the hands of a few knowledge workers and CEOs while the common man becomes poorer.

- the majority of introverted people have turned to the internet rather than forming meaningful relationships. 27% of millennials say they have 0 close friends.

- online dating gives people the paradox of choice. Both men and women are less satisfied with the partners available to them than they were 20 years ago.

- instead of spreading knowledge the internet has been weaponized to disseminate misinformation. Fake news is rampant. Even on this forum there is an idiotic cabal who celebrates their choice not to wear a mask.

Expect things to get worse for all but the 0.1%. AI continues to replace labor. Corporations, governments, and political parties grow ever more effective at using the internet for propaganda (deepfakes anyone?). Internet distractions grow ever more effective and more degenerate (incest porn, VR, Onlyfans).
post 1612801661 08-06-2020, 07:56 PM
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usa needs national socialism, the perfect system is already there hidden in plain sight, ethnics and feminism have ruined america and capitalism was the driver of both, ethnics and women are way too uppitty these days, it's time for the great white race to wake up from it's slumber and show these filthy people who really owns the world
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Originally Posted By 58220
usa needs national socialism, the perfect system is already there hidden in plain sight, ethnics and feminism have ruined america and capitalism was the driver of both, ethnics and women are way too uppitty these days, it's time for the great white race to wake up from it's slumber and show these filthy people who really owns the world
Nope
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we gotta go back to the good ole days of the 90s when everybody would stfu and do there own thing
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Originally Posted By TheLaughingCow2
Nope
how mad are you as an ethinc to know white people's ancestors cucked your's so hard, it must eat you up on the inside to realize those alpha ruler genes were passed down to the whites of today and the cuck genes were passed down to you ethnics
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Originally Posted By TheLaughingCow2
Disagree. The internet has absolutely ravaged the fabric of modern society over the past 10 years.

- money and power have become concentrated in the hands of a few knowledge workers and CEOs while the common man becomes poorer.

- the majority of introverted people have turned to the internet rather than forming meaningful relationships. 27% of millennials say they have 0 close friends.

- online dating gives people the paradox of choice. Both men and women are less satisfied with the partners available to them than they were 20 years ago.

- instead of spreading knowledge the internet has been weaponized to disseminate misinformation. Fake news is rampant. Even on this forum there is an idiotic cabal who celebrates their choice not to wear a mask.

Expect things to get worse for all but the 0.1%. AI continues to replace labor. Corporations, governments, and political parties grow ever more effective at using the internet for propaganda (deepfakes anyone?). Internet distractions grow ever more effective and more degenerate (incest porn, VR, Onlyfans).
There are obviously growing pains, but there are plenty of things that can't be done by AI. You'll see a shift in the opposite direction soon enough.
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Originally Posted By 58220
how mad are you as an ethinc to know white people's ancestors cucked your's so hard, it must eat you up on the inside to realize those alpha ruler genes were passed down to the whites of today and the cuck genes were passed down to you ethnics
LMAO I'm white with blond hair and blue eyes.

Feel free to suck my cock and I'll pass you some of my genes since your racist ass seems to love them so much.
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Originally Posted By TheLaughingCow2
LMAO I'm white with blond hair and blue eyes.

Feel free to suck my cock and I'll pass you some of my genes since you seem to love them so much.
you probably have a genetic defect of some sort, what a cuck lol
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
The reason Trump has widespread appeal is because these people know opportunity and hope is what will bring their communities back to the natural conservative/family/happy state. People who are too economically conservative don't have thriving communities, but when there's hope more people spend. COVID will bring things back in this direction very quickly, and it's the catalyst to bringing the US back on top of the global economy. The next 20 years will be very good in the US.
One can hope. I'm seeing small businesses dying right now, meanwhile Target and Walmart chugging along. I feel that COVID did the exact opposite of what you're saying right now and provided the perfect opportunity for these massive companies to acquire more and more market share.
Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
One of Obama's quotes after leaving office was "they tried to do too much in terms of moving the country left". America was ready for some of the items they tried(clearly it was time for the US to have a conversation about race and improving the overall outcomes of black residents), but when they tried to push Caitlyn Jenner on the population for an entire 6 month period it was too much. All of a sudden there were a ton of kids considering changing sex, which isn't something that should happen at that age.

If they used discretion, Obama could have moved the country slightly left in a meaningful way. But they attempted to do way too much and things lurched in the other direction.
Honestly never paid much attention to the Caitlyn crap and only know of the magazine cover she was on. Is that Obama's fault the media had a collective orgy over him/her? Lol. I couldn't care less what adults do, but damn how we've "progressed" from there and now it's kids. Sickening.
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Originally Posted By 58220
you probably have a genetic defect of some sort, what a cuck lol
Cope
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Originally Posted By TheLaughingCow2
Cope
Probably a race troll. There are legit concerns and points to make with regards to the coming demographics shift (DukeofWoodbury's posts come to mind), but this guy seems like an over the top moron.
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Pretty much 100 % spot on
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Originally Posted By Johnez
Probably a race troll. There are legit concerns and points to make with regards to the coming demographics shift (DukeofWoodbury's posts come to mind), but this guy seems like an over the top moron.
or maybe you're just a coping cuck and been too feminized and indoctrinated, as a male you should from a purely objective biological pov respect ruthless dominance and power, whites never got to where they are by pandering and being soft, they were brutal colonizers who loved to massacre and enslave, if that brutality was rewarded with dominance of the world then from a biological sense that's what the true path of man must be
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Originally Posted By 58220
or maybe you're just a coping cuck and been too feminized and indoctrinated, as a male you should from a purely objective biological pov respect ruthless dominance and power, whites never got to where they are by pandering and being soft, they were brutal colonizers who loved to massacre and enslave, if that brutality was rewarded with dominance of the world then from a biological sense that's what the true path of man must be
LMAO the only thing you've dominated in your life is the drive-thru at Burger King.
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Originally Posted By lockdev
Socially liberal meant something different 20 years ago. Economically conservative did too.

20 years ago:
Socially liberal was government should stay out of people's personal lives.
Economically conservative was government should stay out of people's wallets.

Today:
Socially liberal means you hate white people(or yourself).
Economically conservative means the government should support corporate welfare.
Originally Posted By Train57
we gotta go back to the good ole days of the 90s when everybody would stfu and do there own thing
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Originally Posted By TheLaughingCow2
LMAO the only thing you've dominated in your life is the drive-thru at Burger King.
i bet your whore mother wishes i dominated her, if only you had my alpha boss genes you wouldn't be this much of a biitch
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Originally Posted By 58220
i bet your whore mother wishes i dominated her, if only you had my alpha boss genes you wouldn't be this much of a biitch
I can tell just by the way you type that you're frantically refreshing the page every minute hoping for a response.

Pathetic.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
Since the late 1970s when Nixon opened up relations with China, factories have been moving to Mexico/China/etc because unions became too strong in the US and made it so our products were no longer competitive.

In 1980, Flint Michigan was a place where someone could graduate high school and have a job earning $70,000 per year right away. Now 40 years later, anyone who has been there will tell you it's one of the biggest chithole places in the US with one of the largest rates of poverty.

This extreme "liberalism" only thrives in an environment where people don't see themselves having any skin in the game and don't see themselves as having any great future. They don't get married, don't have any kids, don't view themselves as having any great opportunity. Most people who aren't crazy church people aren't extreme social conservatives nowadays regardless of their political persuasion.

The reason Trump has widespread appeal is because these people know opportunity and hope is what will bring their communities back to the natural conservative/family/happy state. People who are too economically conservative don't have thriving communities, but when there's hope more people spend. COVID will bring things back in this direction very quickly, and it's the catalyst to bringing the US back on top of the global economy. The next 20 years will be very good in the US.
You're conclusion are incorrect.
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Originally Posted By lockdev
Socially liberal meant something different 20 years ago. Economically conservative did too.

20 years ago:
Socially liberal was government should stay out of people's personal lives.
Economically conservative was government should stay out of people's wallets.

Today:
Socially liberal means you hate white people(or yourself).
Economically conservative means the government should support corporate welfare.
Our government is well funded corporations fighting with well funded leftist special interests. Lobbyists run chit and there's not a lot of room for the american worker.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
A lot of what you say is correct. But socialism isn't the answer. Neoliberalism and conservatism (hasn't conserved anything tbh) is a joke.

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Originally Posted By Train57
we gotta go back to the good ole days of the 90s when everybody would stfu and do there own thing
It all changed with Obama and 2012 man

Some things happened that year that lead us to where we are now

Things were rapidly changing under our nose and nobody cared at the time
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Originally Posted By wincel
I think they should discourage promiscuity and drug use, reduce the military, seek peace and diplomacy over war, focus on STEM, protect the environment, promote a free and competitive market (reduce patents, trademarks, and copyrights), cut taxes, cut most welfare, cut social security (people should be expected to care for their parents), stop funding sports, cut most public education to bare minimum required to maintain test scores, and promote equal opportunity and rights under the law. Govt healthcare could be done depending on if it is cheaper and more efficient than private. Oh and discourage religious influence on the state, but let religions practice their chit where it doesn't hurt anyone.

SO IDK what that would be...

Conservatiberal?
pretty good dont agree with everything but yeah that's pretty economically leftist and socially conservative
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