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post 1613245571 08-11-2020, 01:42 PM
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Do you respect Lance Armstrong? (poll)

One one hand
-He "won" the toughest cycling event in cycling history 7 times in a row (no man in human history has ever done this before)
-He won those races in an era where doping was pervasive. You don't dope, you come last or close to last, simple. (Not excusing him)
-He raised $500 million for cancer patients through Livestrong
-He confessed to doping and came clean

On the other hand
-There are numerous reports he bullied his teammates into doping
-He would intimidate and try to ruin the lives of journalists, reporters, book writers who dared to try and slander his name
-His ruthless win at all cost mentality led to him being the scapegoat for doping and the ENORMOUS public backlash. Plus he was the biggest name in cycling.

CLIFFS
-What Lance achieved is remarkable, doping or not
-He was a bit of a prick, which is why he gets so much hate

Do you respect him?
post 1613245761 08-11-2020, 01:44 PM
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How can you not respect someone who comes back from cancer to win the Tour De France... because he lied about taking PEDs? Like everyone else in the top ten did.

Lol at the *******s who had to bring him to "justice" costing a charity millions of pounds for kids. *******s
post 1613245831 08-11-2020, 01:45 PM
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so what if he cheated?

so did everyone else. literally everyone else.

he still trained hard, beat cancer, and raised a chit ton of money.
post 1613246071 08-11-2020, 01:47 PM
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Yes, he is the top tier greatest athlete of all time. MJ, Tiger, Lance, all super dominate killers that no one could touch in their prime. Thinking his TDF wins are nullified due to doping is the equivalent of taking a Mr. O title away because of steroids. Literally every person on the tour was doping, it was just part of the sport.
post 1613246771 08-11-2020, 01:54 PM
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Eurocucks were just mad that Lance was too good even tho they still do all the roiding.
Even today all the modern cyclists with their more advanced bikes arent as fast as Lance.
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post 1613246921 08-11-2020, 01:55 PM
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GOAT athlete
GOAT douchebag

Thats pretty much Lance in a nutshell.
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I crossed paths with him a few times back in the 90's when I was mountain bike racing and he's an absolute garbage individual but he can ride like a mofo.
post 1613248901 08-11-2020, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By MFarrar74⏩
Yes, he is the top tier greatest athlete of all time. MJ, Tiger, Lance, all super dominate killers that no one could touch in their prime. Thinking his TDF wins are nullified due to doping is the equivalent of taking a Mr. O title away because of steroids. Literally every person on the tour was doping, it was just part of the sport.
Reason I asked was because Lance did something recently that went viral. I think he banned police bikes from being repaired or his shops or something. and 90% of people were calling him a disgrace.

I think we can all agree his career achievements is incredible, but he was not exactly the best person
post 1613249031 08-11-2020, 02:18 PM
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He's one of the GOATs.
post 1613249041 08-11-2020, 02:18 PM
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Strong thread topic to username.

This is kind of like professional bodybuilding. No one on stage at the Olympia is natty.

No one in the Tour De France is natty.

So no point vilifying anyone.
agreed. I was watching some clips of arnold and the golden era. They were all clearly juicers but they still had to put in a tonne of work and they are always highly praised and respected.
I think if Lance didn't act like a douche people would still hold him in high regard
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Wasn't there only one guy out of the top ten who didn't fail those tests?

Lance wasn't doing anything the other top guys weren't doing.
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post 1613249411 08-11-2020, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Wasn't there only one guy out of the top ten who didn't fail those tests?

Lance wasn't doing anything the other top guys weren't doing.
I think 87% of those who came in the top 20 were doping or associated with doping in Lance's era
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Dont care about *******t cycling
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Originally Posted By CougarP01⏩
GOAT athlete
GOAT douchebag

Thats pretty much Lance in a nutshell.
I'd agree with this.
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Originally Posted By ProudKraut⏩
Dont care about *******t cycling
This

I respect that he helped raise awareness for celltech which is an important first step for acceptance but don't really care for bicycle racing and wish they'd keep their spandex asses off the road.
post 1613251641 08-11-2020, 02:39 PM
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He is an example of a peak human being. Gotta respect that.
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post 1613260551 08-11-2020, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By bov188⏩
American hero and inspiration to cancer survivors all over the world. How can you hate the guy?

He has done so much for testicular cancer and men in general. Before he was diagnosed no one talked about testicular cancer or even knew it existed. Now every man knows the symptoms and how to check themselves.

He does not deserve most of the criticism he gets. The people who deserve the criticism are the doctors, officials, and higher ups in the cycling world who were complicit with the wide spread corruption

Of course, because Lance was at the top he falls the hardest
His morals are questionable
But his athletic talent and work ethic is undeniable
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I definitely think the ends justify the means in this one
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PED’s aren’t cheating if everyone does them. Also when you’re aiming to be the best in the world, you’ll do anything to achieve it.
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Every pro in the UCI was cheating to some extent. Lance should have denied it to the end.

Lancenevertested positive for banned substances. He beat every test.

Admit nothing, deny everything, make counter accusations.
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post 1613262081 08-11-2020, 04:05 PM
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Yes. They all cheat, he just got caught. That said, I respect him for certain things, but not everything.
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Yes, even though he's a huge douchebag that I would never want to associate with.

He might've never been caught had his ego not been too insane. Him coming back for that last race and denying Floyd Landis? Retard.
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Originally Posted By CougarP01⏩
GOAT athlete
GOAT douchebag

Thats pretty much Lance in a nutshell.
This.

His bike shop just cut ties with the Austin Police Department cuz woke.
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
This.

His bike shop just cut ties with the Austin Police Department cuz woke.
Lmao what does that mean? They won't ever call the police again?
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Nah he's a kunt.

There's nobody in the world who has actually met him who likes him.
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Seems like a kunt, but as far as competitor goes yeah I still respect the accomplishments.

Much like Barry Bonds, he was great with or without it, but he elevated to superhuman levels because he could.
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He can respect deez nuts.
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Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
so what if he cheated?

so did everyone else. literally everyone else.
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Common misconception.

Certainly all the top pro’s used and continue to do so.

The problem is that the vast majority of aspiring amateurs don’t, so the talent pool is decimated once you get to the professional level.

Put it like this, if testing was 100% reliable far more talented amateurs would make it through to the top level rather than quit, and Lance’s dominance may well never have occurred
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Common misconception.

Certainly all the top pro’s used and continue to do so.

The problem is that the vast majority of aspiring amateurs don’t, so the talent pool is decimated once you get to the professional level.

Put it like this, if testing was 100% reliable far more talented amateurs would make it through to the top level rather than quit, and Lance’s dominance may well never have occurred
Agreed. Level playing field
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