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08-18-2020, 08:34 PM
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Switching from bulking and cutting often?
Anybody here switch from bulking and cutting often I often will do bulks and cuts for like 2-3 weeks then switch. I make a lot of progress this way is there any significant benefit to doing Long phases of either?
08-25-2020, 03:15 PM
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08-25-2020, 03:16 PM
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Yeah that's the best way to do it so you don't lose strength or size
2-5 month bulks and 2 weeks cut
2-5 month bulks and 2 weeks cut
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08-25-2020, 03:41 PM
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you keep making small term progress and 0 long term progress
The body takes about 4 weeks to really get into fat burning mode where it optimizes burning fat and not any muscle, so why would you not even reach peak fat burning or quit right when you do?
For bulking, the best a natty non beginner can expect to gain in lean muscle tissue in a year of perfect dieting and exercise is about 5lbs. So if you went from 170lbs at 7% bf you would be 175lbs 7% bf a year later. People get things twisted when they are different body fats and different levels of glycogen filled. For instance, some bodybuilding shows I have gone from 230lbs at weigh ins 6% bf to 250lbs still 6% bf a week later, does that mean I gained 20lbs of muscle? no. Does it look like I did? Yes, But what is really happening is refilling the muscles with glycogen, fat, and water at a cellular level greatly increasing total volume.
So back to 5lbs of muscle a year, that is slightly noticeable but not extremely noticeable so doing 1/4 of that (3 month bulk) is like 1.5 lbs, do you really think thats noticeable?
Also keep in mind however much time you spend cutting is as much time you are spending NOT gaining muscle. So people cutting 4 times a year for 4-10 weeks end up spending half the year not even growing.
The body takes about 4 weeks to really get into fat burning mode where it optimizes burning fat and not any muscle, so why would you not even reach peak fat burning or quit right when you do?
For bulking, the best a natty non beginner can expect to gain in lean muscle tissue in a year of perfect dieting and exercise is about 5lbs. So if you went from 170lbs at 7% bf you would be 175lbs 7% bf a year later. People get things twisted when they are different body fats and different levels of glycogen filled. For instance, some bodybuilding shows I have gone from 230lbs at weigh ins 6% bf to 250lbs still 6% bf a week later, does that mean I gained 20lbs of muscle? no. Does it look like I did? Yes, But what is really happening is refilling the muscles with glycogen, fat, and water at a cellular level greatly increasing total volume.
So back to 5lbs of muscle a year, that is slightly noticeable but not extremely noticeable so doing 1/4 of that (3 month bulk) is like 1.5 lbs, do you really think thats noticeable?
Also keep in mind however much time you spend cutting is as much time you are spending NOT gaining muscle. So people cutting 4 times a year for 4-10 weeks end up spending half the year not even growing.
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08-25-2020, 03:54 PM
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I've read a lot of stuff pertaining to dieting, lifting, exercise, strength, etc. Took classes on sports performance, was a sports performance coach at one point, have experimented on a lot of stuff myself.
I think the best way to do it is pretty simple. I base it off of my areas climate. I have pretty harsh winters, so of course the body naturally wants to add a little bit of extra fat. When summer roles around, it is more beneficial to have less weight and body fat for general function.
It's cyclical. So most people would benefit with bulking throughout the fall and winter, this is a steady bulk, and then cutting a bit during the spring and summer months. Winter you're less active, summer you're more active, eat accordingly.
I think Marty Gallagher talks about this in his book Purposeful primitive. Great read.
I think the best way to do it is pretty simple. I base it off of my areas climate. I have pretty harsh winters, so of course the body naturally wants to add a little bit of extra fat. When summer roles around, it is more beneficial to have less weight and body fat for general function.
It's cyclical. So most people would benefit with bulking throughout the fall and winter, this is a steady bulk, and then cutting a bit during the spring and summer months. Winter you're less active, summer you're more active, eat accordingly.
I think Marty Gallagher talks about this in his book Purposeful primitive. Great read.
08-25-2020, 03:55 PM
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We got long summers here.
So cut 3 months. Maintain 5 months. Bulk 4 months
So cut 3 months. Maintain 5 months. Bulk 4 months
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08-25-2020, 04:04 PM
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08-25-2020, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
I guess that makes since i hate the idea of spending to much time either too fat or too skinnyyou keep making small term progress and 0 long term progress
The body takes about 4 weeks to really get into fat burning mode where it optimizes burning fat and not any muscle, so why would you not even reach peak fat burning or quit right when you do?
For bulking, the best a natty non beginner can expect to gain in lean muscle tissue in a year of perfect dieting and exercise is about 5lbs. So if you went from 170lbs at 7% bf you would be 175lbs 7% bf a year later. People get things twisted when they are different body fats and different levels of glycogen filled. For instance, some bodybuilding shows I have gone from 230lbs at weigh ins 6% bf to 250lbs still 6% bf a week later, does that mean I gained 20lbs of muscle? no. Does it look like I did? Yes, But what is really happening is refilling the muscles with glycogen, fat, and water at a cellular level greatly increasing total volume.
So back to 5lbs of muscle a year, that is slightly noticeable but not extremely noticeable so doing 1/4 of that (3 month bulk) is like 1.5 lbs, do you really think thats noticeable?
Also keep in mind however much time you spend cutting is as much time you are spending NOT gaining muscle. So people cutting 4 times a year for 4-10 weeks end up spending half the year not even growing.
The body takes about 4 weeks to really get into fat burning mode where it optimizes burning fat and not any muscle, so why would you not even reach peak fat burning or quit right when you do?
For bulking, the best a natty non beginner can expect to gain in lean muscle tissue in a year of perfect dieting and exercise is about 5lbs. So if you went from 170lbs at 7% bf you would be 175lbs 7% bf a year later. People get things twisted when they are different body fats and different levels of glycogen filled. For instance, some bodybuilding shows I have gone from 230lbs at weigh ins 6% bf to 250lbs still 6% bf a week later, does that mean I gained 20lbs of muscle? no. Does it look like I did? Yes, But what is really happening is refilling the muscles with glycogen, fat, and water at a cellular level greatly increasing total volume.
So back to 5lbs of muscle a year, that is slightly noticeable but not extremely noticeable so doing 1/4 of that (3 month bulk) is like 1.5 lbs, do you really think thats noticeable?
Also keep in mind however much time you spend cutting is as much time you are spending NOT gaining muscle. So people cutting 4 times a year for 4-10 weeks end up spending half the year not even growing.
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