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post 1614369211 08-23-2020, 09:57 AM
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Should I go above my professor and challenge this?

Cliffs:
-Class has mandatory attendance with two free passes
-OP uses two free passes earlier in semester to go on vacation early and come back late
-OP accidentally oversleeps because alarm didn't go off
-Went to later class and told professor
-Professor said he won't excuse absence, refers to attendance policy, etc.
-OP argues it was an accident and not fair
-Professor says not good enough reason and says OP is acting like a child about it
-OP's day is ruined

I mean come the fuk on, it was an accident!
post 1614369351 08-23-2020, 09:59 AM
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post 1614369531 08-23-2020, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By TheScapeGOAT⏩
Cliffs:
-Class has mandatory attendance with two free passes
-OP uses two free passes earlier in semester to go on vacation early and come back late
-OP accidentally oversleeps because alarm didn't go off
-Went to later class and told professor
-Professor said he won't excuse absence, refers to attendance policy, etc.
-OP argues it was an accident and not fair
-Professor says not good enough reason and says OP is acting like a child about it
-OP's day is ruined

I mean come the fuk on, it was an accident!
Why are you blaming the professor when you overslept and missed class? You're an adult, you shouldn't "accidently oversleep". And the policy was given clearly and you used your two free passes instead of saving one for an emergency or accident.

Basically stop crying and fist yourself.
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post 1614369851 08-23-2020, 10:08 AM
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post 1614369911 08-23-2020, 10:10 AM
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another pre Corona fossil of a person that doesnt realize school be done at any time/location
post 1614370301 08-23-2020, 10:16 AM
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Stopped reading at 'OP accidentally oversleeps'
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op is age 28

so this is either grad school or an mba

seeing as OP is dumb as a bag of rocks, we can conclude it is an mba

OP please fist yourself - wells fargo loves boys that know how to fist
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post 1614370691 08-23-2020, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By SoapKing⏩
op is age 28

so this is either grad school or an mba

seeing as OP is dumb as a bag of rocks, we can conclude it is an mba

OP please fist yourself - wells fargo loves boys that know how to fist
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post 1614371231 08-23-2020, 10:28 AM
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i find it a bit weird if "late" = absence

sounds like that's what it was translated to by your story.

but if it says anywhere that late = absence i'd be on the professors side. otherwise, i don't think being late should be an absence. that's just stupid and idealistic

edit: oh wait, you overslept so you didn't go at all. i guess i lean with the professor. should have known another absence was going to cause a problem. should have touched base with him prior tbh
post 1614371971 08-23-2020, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i find it a bit weird if "late" = absence

sounds like that's what it was translated to by your story.

but if it says anywhere that late = absence i'd be on the professors side. otherwise, i don't think being late should be an absence. that's just stupid and idealistic
I think they can count it as absence but I completely missed the class. I went to speak with him at one of his other ones later.
post 1614371991 08-23-2020, 10:38 AM
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Where are you? Physical class or zoom class?

And, you knew the deal and fumbled the ball, soooooooo go fist urself fgt
post 1614372081 08-23-2020, 10:39 AM
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you are acting like a child about it.
Anyways what is the penalty for missing class outside of the 2 free passes?
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Fun goofed for using excused absence for vacation
post 1614372141 08-23-2020, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted By TheScapeGOAT⏩
I think they can count it as absence but I completely missed the class. I went to speak with him at one of his other ones later.
i don't think you have much ground to stand on if the attendance policy is laid out in the syllabus
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Prof: no more than 2 absences

OP has more than 2 absences

Prof: you have more than 2 absences, you violated the attendance policy

OP:
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Originally Posted By TheScapeGOAT⏩
Cliffs:
-Class has mandatory attendance with two free passes
-OP uses two free passes earlier in semester to go on vacation early and come back late
-OP accidentally oversleeps because alarm didn't go off
-Went to later class and told professor
-Professor said he won't excuse absence, refers to attendance policy, etc.
-OP argues it was an accident and not fair
-Professor says not good enough reason and says OP is acting like a child about it
-OP's day is ruined

I mean come the fuk on, it was an accident!
unless he is very understanding, imho you'll have to really really really charm him OP m8 .... otherwise i'd not attempt it as these Pros can be so clevour and Rightous you may not win!!
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shoulda told professor you had an anxiety attack that morning because you were watching your favorite netflix show and realized it didn't have any strong LGTQ+ role models
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
i don't think you have much ground to stand on if the attendance policy is laid out in the syllabus
I get that but I was hoping he would feel that it was an accident and cut me a break.
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Originally Posted By jonmcd46⏩
shoulda told professor you had an anxiety attack that morning because you were watching your favorite netflix show and realized it didn't have any strong LGTQ+ role models
Sadly I think that would have worked.
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Who schedules a vacation during the semester?
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
lol. you won't win. its on their syllabus.

i tell my students something similar as a "threat" but don't usually follow through with enforcing it unless it's a huge attendance problem (like 5-6 missed days). i literally tell them NOT to skip for any reason other than illness or reasons beyond their control, especially vacations -- because you might be sick one day, you might oversleep, etc.
See at least you cut some slack though. My final grade will be affected now.
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I absolutely fuking hate attendance policy at college. This is bullsht that is actually a GOVT rule. Because so many people are failing to pay back student loans the govt has decided this is due to lack of classroom attendance.

Absolute fking bullsht.

We already get raped by the govt caused inflated cost and now we don't even get to choose our attendance, for a class WE PAID FOR. If anything the school shouldn't get any say whatsoever if we show up or not. Just give us the test and be thankful we are taking loans to pay for this stupid sht.

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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
lol. you won't win. its on their syllabus.

i tell my students something similar as a "threat" but don't usually follow through with enforcing it unless it's a huge attendance problem (like 5-6 missed days).i literally tell them NOT to skip for any reason other than illness or reasons beyond their control, especially vacations -- because you might be sick one day, you might oversleep, etc.
fuk you too
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Originally Posted By thenightskies⏩
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
The attendance policy enforced byFederal/State Financial Aidhas nothing to do with an instructor's policies. In NY we have to report only if a student hasnot attendedorstopped attending, not the number of days they missed.
Fuk the govt and fuk the instructors. Faculty is paid to teach. Professors that require attendance on their own can lick these hairy balls.

There are very few classes that need to be learned in person. Since the basic sciences don't change all that much, one really good professor for each subject could teach every single class in the entire country on their own; and that video could be watched year after year. A few tutors could take care of the questions.
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
Part of teaching is to provide structure and a classroom environment. I give groupwork, if a student doesn't show then the group is at a disadvantage. Less attendance is less morale for the classroom as a whole. Maybe try to be a little empathetic for your fellow classmateswho want to interact and learn(not just to get a piece of paper after 4 years) and the instructor who is trying to have an interactive and supportive learning environment.
That is fine. Let those who want to attend, attend. Don't force it on people who only want the knowledge. I would not show up to class just to make a classmate feel better and I have no empathy for someone who expects me to change my actions for their feelings.
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Originally Posted By TheScapeGOAT⏩
I get that but I was hoping he would feel that it was an accident and cut me a break.
i think professors are prob more lenient than their syllabus most of the time

BUT i think you need more communication at first. and im sure if it were like you had corona and then you had another emergency which is why you missed more than 2.. it'd be cool

but i dont think vacation and oversleeping make the threshold for valid excuses
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