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Universal Income Trial Giving Select Citizens $1,400 Per Month Begins in Germany
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Universal Income Trial Giving Select Citizens $1,400 Per Month Begins in Germany
The study will last for three years, and will look at the effects of giving 120 people a monthly payment just over that of the country’s poverty line.
Germany is launching its first experiment with universal basic income this week with a new trial that will put about $1,400 per month into the pockets of 120 people for the next three years to see whether the security net of a steady cash flow improves their well-being.
The study, which is conducted by the German Institute for Economic Research, will give 120 Germans a monthly payment just over that of the country’s poverty line, while an additional 1,380 people taking part will not receive any payments, according to The Times of London.
Both groups will reportedly have to fill out regular questionnaires about their lives, including what they do in their free time and their emotional states.
The study is funded by donations from about 140,000 people through a lobbying group called Mein Grundeinkommen, which supports universal basic income, Business Insider reported.
Those who organized the trial said its goal is to help provide further information to contribute to the debate of whether universal basic income should be implemented; some argue that it helps people live better lives, while others believe it could deter people from working.
https://people.com/human-interest/un...ns-in-germany/
Germany is launching its first experiment with universal basic income this week with a new trial that will put about $1,400 per month into the pockets of 120 people for the next three years to see whether the security net of a steady cash flow improves their well-being.
The study, which is conducted by the German Institute for Economic Research, will give 120 Germans a monthly payment just over that of the country’s poverty line, while an additional 1,380 people taking part will not receive any payments, according to The Times of London.
Both groups will reportedly have to fill out regular questionnaires about their lives, including what they do in their free time and their emotional states.
The study is funded by donations from about 140,000 people through a lobbying group called Mein Grundeinkommen, which supports universal basic income, Business Insider reported.
Those who organized the trial said its goal is to help provide further information to contribute to the debate of whether universal basic income should be implemented; some argue that it helps people live better lives, while others believe it could deter people from working.
https://people.com/human-interest/un...ns-in-germany/
08-28-2020, 09:40 AM
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I would be interested in the true motives of the 140,000 people that donated and the lobbying group Mein Grundeinkommen. Is this really just another way to keep people lazy, poor and dependent on the government? Also interested in who gets this money and how they were chosen.
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Let's be real, the U.S. as a country is greedy, Baby Boomers sold us all out to reap riches. We could use a universal income for the lower and middle class. An extra $1000 could help with rent, college, debt, and food.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Explain how this would not only increase taxes for everyone, but also how it wouldn’t just lead to inflation?Let's be real, the U.S. as a country is greedy, Baby Boomers sold us all out to reap riches. We could use a universal income for the lower and middle class. An extra $1000 could help with rent, college, debt, and food.
UBI is the most retarded economic strategy that’s just veiled socialism
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We tried that here, it's called Indian reservations.
Drive through one sometime, they're prosperous utopias of wealth and productivity.
Drive through one sometime, they're prosperous utopias of wealth and productivity.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Brb rent, tuition, and prices for just about everything go up.Let's be real, the U.S. as a country is greedy, Baby Boomers sold us all out to reap riches. We could use a universal income for the lower and middle class. An extra $1000 could help with rent, college, debt, and food.
Or I’ll just stop working because I can make the same doing nothing and just mooch off UBI. The only people I know who suooort UBI in real life were Bernie bros or yang supporters with useless degrees. None of them have jobs that are worth anything.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Has that really been tried on reservations? I’ve heard a lot of natives are just lazy as hell and that would explain why.We tried that here, it's called Indian reservations.
Drive through one sometime, they're prosperous utopias of wealth and productivity.
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Obviously an extra $1400 per month is going to improve the quality of life of about 95% of people. Whether they spend that money on an education, a car, or hookers and blow. Its a quality of life improvement.
The question is, how sustainable is just giving everyone free money? How do you filter out the drug addicts, alcoholics and lazies from people that just need a helping hand? Welfare is already massively abused.
One of my close friends cousin has never lived on a reservation and is only part native and he's been getting $400 per month for a long time. I think he might be 1/4 or 1/5 Native.
The question is, how sustainable is just giving everyone free money? How do you filter out the drug addicts, alcoholics and lazies from people that just need a helping hand? Welfare is already massively abused.
Originally Posted By sfgiants13⏩
What do you mean try? Full blood Indians from qualifying tribes still get a check.Has that really been tried on reservations? I’ve heard a lot of natives are just lazy as hell and that would explain why.
One of my close friends cousin has never lived on a reservation and is only part native and he's been getting $400 per month for a long time. I think he might be 1/4 or 1/5 Native.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
Didn’t know that. Explains a lot then.Obviously an extra $1400 per month is going to improve the quality of life of about 95% of people. Whether they spend that money on an education, a car, or hookers and blow. Its a quality of life improvement.
The question is, how sustainable is just giving everyone free money? How do you filter out the drug addicts, alcoholics and lazies from people that just need a helping hand? Welfare is already massively abused.
What do you mean try? Full blood Indians from qualifying tribes still get a check.
The question is, how sustainable is just giving everyone free money? How do you filter out the drug addicts, alcoholics and lazies from people that just need a helping hand? Welfare is already massively abused.
What do you mean try? Full blood Indians from qualifying tribes still get a check.
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Who are the people receiving the money? Have they always been poor? Have they ever worked? If you take 120 hustlers who have always worked and give them UBI, they will propser. If you give it to a bunch of leaches they'll be asking for more within 3 months.
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This will only ever work if everyone does their part, which will never happens due to the majority of people being lazy POS.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Explain how baby boomers sold out? Also, don't live beyond your means and manage your money. If you want more, do something about it. How bad do you want to live better? Nothing in life is free.Let's be real, the U.S. as a country is greedy, Baby Boomers sold us all out to reap riches. We could use a universal income for the lower and middle class. An extra $1000 could help with rent, college, debt, and food.
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Originally Posted By LateShow⏩
I have no idea how it would work, but didn't Andrew Yang explain this thoroughly? A lot of you need to stop being shills for the rich, we've been getting raped for years and years, our politicians are selling us out to the Chinese to fill their pockets.Explain how this would not only increase taxes for everyone, but also how it wouldn’t just lead to inflation?
UBI is the most retarded economic strategy that’s just veiled socialism
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Originally Posted By sfgiants13⏩
Where can you live off $1000/month??? Since you're scared of people being lazy, just make employment a requirement to receive UBI.Brb rent, tuition, and prices for just about everything go up.
Or I’ll just stop working because I can make the same doing nothing and just mooch off UBI. The only people I know who suooort UBI in real life were Bernie bros or yang supporters with useless degrees. None of them have jobs that are worth anything.
Or I’ll just stop working because I can make the same doing nothing and just mooch off UBI. The only people I know who suooort UBI in real life were Bernie bros or yang supporters with useless degrees. None of them have jobs that are worth anything.
Originally Posted By niospecv⏩
Shipping jobs overseas. Blowing up the housing market. Raising college costs. You say nothing in life is free, I'm not asking for free things, either make prices reasonable or give people a raise. Boomers didn't complain because everything was great. Cheap housing, cheap college, cheap cars.Explain how baby boomers sold out? Also, don't live beyond your means and manage your money. If you want more, do something about it. How bad do you want to live better? Nothing in life is free.
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Originally Posted By sfgiants13⏩
Basically. If you're a member of the tribe, you get paid out by the casino of your tribe on the reservation lmao.Has that really been tried on reservations? I’ve heard a lot of natives are just lazy as hell and that would explain why.
Leads to a life of absolute squalor. Srs.
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How do you have a trial for UNIVERSAL income when you give it to only a SELECT group of people? Stupid as hell.
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Here is their website in English
https://www.mein-grundeinkommen.de/infos/in-english
Founder
Michael Bohmeyerhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bohmeyer
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Grundeinkommen

Cliffs: It is some crowd funded/crowd sourced thing that has nothing to do with the government from what I am reading, unless someone can find me different information linking the government to them financially.
https://www.mein-grundeinkommen.de/infos/in-english
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Cliffs: It is some crowd funded/crowd sourced thing that has nothing to do with the government from what I am reading, unless someone can find me different information linking the government to them financially.
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Originally Posted By BuckNakedinBama⏩
It's probably the same other unemployed people get, just the name is different.How do you have a trial for UNIVERSAL income when you give it to only a SELECT group of people? Stupid as hell.
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Well I'm from germany and if you're unemployed you'll get everything paid for by the state anyway (flat, moving expenses, child money, health insurance etc.) and a basic income on top of it so idk how that is different from just taking the social money and leech from society. Oh and you're allowed to take a mini job up to 400 € per month and still get your full unemployment money on top. There's not much difference from your living standards if you're unemployed or working 40+ hours a week in a low income job like eldercare in germany srs.
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