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post 1614885311 08-28-2020, 08:07 AM
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Universal Income Trial Giving Select Citizens $1,400 Per Month Begins in Germany

The study will last for three years, and will look at the effects of giving 120 people a monthly payment just over that of the country’s poverty line.

Germany is launching its first experiment with universal basic income this week with a new trial that will put about $1,400 per month into the pockets of 120 people for the next three years to see whether the security net of a steady cash flow improves their well-being.

The study, which is conducted by the German Institute for Economic Research, will give 120 Germans a monthly payment just over that of the country’s poverty line, while an additional 1,380 people taking part will not receive any payments, according to The Times of London.

Both groups will reportedly have to fill out regular questionnaires about their lives, including what they do in their free time and their emotional states.

The study is funded by donations from about 140,000 people through a lobbying group called Mein Grundeinkommen, which supports universal basic income, Business Insider reported.

Those who organized the trial said its goal is to help provide further information to contribute to the debate of whether universal basic income should be implemented; some argue that it helps people live better lives, while others believe it could deter people from working.


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post 1614893451 08-28-2020, 09:40 AM
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I would be interested in the true motives of the 140,000 people that donated and the lobbying group Mein Grundeinkommen. Is this really just another way to keep people lazy, poor and dependent on the government? Also interested in who gets this money and how they were chosen.
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post 1614893601 08-28-2020, 09:41 AM
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post 1614893811 08-28-2020, 09:43 AM
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post 1614894071 08-28-2020, 09:47 AM
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UBI is only a good idea in the eyes of lazy beta *******s who cry online all day long and pay OF whores to acknowledge their pathetic existence
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post 1614895661 08-28-2020, 10:06 AM
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post 1614895891 08-28-2020, 10:08 AM
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post 1614896741 08-28-2020, 10:16 AM
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Let's be real, the U.S. as a country is greedy, Baby Boomers sold us all out to reap riches. We could use a universal income for the lower and middle class. An extra $1000 could help with rent, college, debt, and food.
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post 1614897571 08-28-2020, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
Let's be real, the U.S. as a country is greedy, Baby Boomers sold us all out to reap riches. We could use a universal income for the lower and middle class. An extra $1000 could help with rent, college, debt, and food.
Explain how this would not only increase taxes for everyone, but also how it wouldn’t just lead to inflation?

UBI is the most retarded economic strategy that’s just veiled socialism
post 1614897741 08-28-2020, 10:28 AM
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We tried that here, it's called Indian reservations.

Drive through one sometime, they're prosperous utopias of wealth and productivity.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
Let's be real, the U.S. as a country is greedy, Baby Boomers sold us all out to reap riches. We could use a universal income for the lower and middle class. An extra $1000 could help with rent, college, debt, and food.
Brb rent, tuition, and prices for just about everything go up.

Or I’ll just stop working because I can make the same doing nothing and just mooch off UBI. The only people I know who suooort UBI in real life were Bernie bros or yang supporters with useless degrees. None of them have jobs that are worth anything.
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Who are the "select citizens"?


post 1614898191 08-28-2020, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
We tried that here, it's called Indian reservations.

Drive through one sometime, they're prosperous utopias of wealth and productivity.
Has that really been tried on reservations? I’ve heard a lot of natives are just lazy as hell and that would explain why.
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Obviously an extra $1400 per month is going to improve the quality of life of about 95% of people. Whether they spend that money on an education, a car, or hookers and blow. Its a quality of life improvement.


The question is, how sustainable is just giving everyone free money? How do you filter out the drug addicts, alcoholics and lazies from people that just need a helping hand? Welfare is already massively abused.
Originally Posted By sfgiants13
Has that really been tried on reservations? I’ve heard a lot of natives are just lazy as hell and that would explain why.
What do you mean try? Full blood Indians from qualifying tribes still get a check.


One of my close friends cousin has never lived on a reservation and is only part native and he's been getting $400 per month for a long time. I think he might be 1/4 or 1/5 Native.
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Originally Posted By guest89
Obviously an extra $1400 per month is going to improve the quality of life of about 95% of people. Whether they spend that money on an education, a car, or hookers and blow. Its a quality of life improvement.


The question is, how sustainable is just giving everyone free money? How do you filter out the drug addicts, alcoholics and lazies from people that just need a helping hand? Welfare is already massively abused.



What do you mean try? Full blood Indians from qualifying tribes still get a check.
Didn’t know that. Explains a lot then.
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Who are the people receiving the money? Have they always been poor? Have they ever worked? If you take 120 hustlers who have always worked and give them UBI, they will propser. If you give it to a bunch of leaches they'll be asking for more within 3 months.
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I strongly support this initiative.
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that should pacify the rapefugees
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post 1614899691 08-28-2020, 10:50 AM
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This will only ever work if everyone does their part, which will never happens due to the majority of people being lazy POS.
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It's probably the same you get anyway from government.

They give you the least amount possible to survive and if you want to have any quality of life at all, you get your lazy ass to work.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
Let's be real, the U.S. as a country is greedy, Baby Boomers sold us all out to reap riches. We could use a universal income for the lower and middle class. An extra $1000 could help with rent, college, debt, and food.
Explain how baby boomers sold out? Also, don't live beyond your means and manage your money. If you want more, do something about it. How bad do you want to live better? Nothing in life is free.
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Originally Posted By LateShow
Explain how this would not only increase taxes for everyone, but also how it wouldn’t just lead to inflation?

UBI is the most retarded economic strategy that’s just veiled socialism
I have no idea how it would work, but didn't Andrew Yang explain this thoroughly? A lot of you need to stop being shills for the rich, we've been getting raped for years and years, our politicians are selling us out to the Chinese to fill their pockets.
Originally Posted By sfgiants13
Brb rent, tuition, and prices for just about everything go up.

Or I’ll just stop working because I can make the same doing nothing and just mooch off UBI. The only people I know who suooort UBI in real life were Bernie bros or yang supporters with useless degrees. None of them have jobs that are worth anything.
Where can you live off $1000/month??? Since you're scared of people being lazy, just make employment a requirement to receive UBI.

Originally Posted By niospecv
Explain how baby boomers sold out? Also, don't live beyond your means and manage your money. If you want more, do something about it. How bad do you want to live better? Nothing in life is free.
Shipping jobs overseas. Blowing up the housing market. Raising college costs. You say nothing in life is free, I'm not asking for free things, either make prices reasonable or give people a raise. Boomers didn't complain because everything was great. Cheap housing, cheap college, cheap cars.
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Originally Posted By sfgiants13
Has that really been tried on reservations? I’ve heard a lot of natives are just lazy as hell and that would explain why.
Basically. If you're a member of the tribe, you get paid out by the casino of your tribe on the reservation lmao.

Leads to a life of absolute squalor. Srs.
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strong incentive for ppl to just ldar
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How do you have a trial for UNIVERSAL income when you give it to only a SELECT group of people? Stupid as hell.
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Here is their website in English

https://www.mein-grundeinkommen.de/infos/in-english


Founder

Michael Bohmeyerhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bohmeyer

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Grundeinkommen






Cliffs: It is some crowd funded/crowd sourced thing that has nothing to do with the government from what I am reading, unless someone can find me different information linking the government to them financially.
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Originally Posted By BuckNakedinBama
How do you have a trial for UNIVERSAL income when you give it to only a SELECT group of people? Stupid as hell.
It's probably the same other unemployed people get, just the name is different.
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does this account for all the third world "refugees" who will start pounding at the door, or that all these poor people will start popping out babies with their deadbeat mindset
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Well I'm from germany and if you're unemployed you'll get everything paid for by the state anyway (flat, moving expenses, child money, health insurance etc.) and a basic income on top of it so idk how that is different from just taking the social money and leech from society. Oh and you're allowed to take a mini job up to 400 € per month and still get your full unemployment money on top. There's not much difference from your living standards if you're unemployed or working 40+ hours a week in a low income job like eldercare in germany srs.
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