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post 1616869701 09-18-2020, 04:10 AM
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Starting to believe protein is bullchit (srs)

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I’d like to state upfront that I’m not saying you shouldn’t have protein in your diet. Protein is necessary for many reasons and not just in lifters. The only “non-essential” macronutrient, is carbs.

With that said, I’m starting to feel more and more that this obsession with loading up on protein is complete BS. Brb gotta get my 0.8-1.2g per lb/bw or I can’t stimulate dat dere optimal anabolic response to get dat dere gains brah.

This man, The Bugez, benches 465 and deadlifts 700 while natty and not being a fatass. He agrees that carbs and food quality are more important than simply “gotta get my prot0nz brah”. (Not true natty because he allegedly took steroids during his wrestling days but “tries to keep that stuff out of him now.”) Genetic freak or not, you don’t get to that level without knowing what the fuk you’re talking about.



Am I gonna stop eating meat? Hell no; it’s delicious. But sometimes, I might opt to instead load up on bread, pasta or oats instead of thinking “z0mg I gotta hit my prot0n requoirrments for the day otherwise my gainZzz will fall off”. For those of us who don’t want to spend the rest of our lives in ketosis: carbs give you energy. PERIOD. Know what more energy does? It lets you move more weight. This chit is so obvious when you think about it.

“B-b-but I’ll get fat from eating that many carbs”.......no, you get fat from eating too many calories for how hard you’re training. If you lift for 30 minutes and then shove down 5,000 calories, of course you’re gonna get fat - and it doesn’t matter if that’s 5,000 calories of steak or bread.....you’ll still get fat.





Tl;dr

- Stop worrying so much about how much protein you’re eating
- You’ll get enough protein just from eating normally as long as most of your calories come from good, clean sources
- Load up on carbs for energy and more productive workouts
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post 1616869751 09-18-2020, 04:12 AM
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post 1616869761 09-18-2020, 04:13 AM
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science has already shown you need protein to grow.
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Originally Posted By ScottTil
science has already shown you need protein to grow.
You’re killing me man. It’s like you didn’t even read the first paragraph
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post 1616869901 09-18-2020, 04:20 AM
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Protein supplements are a con.

Just eat food and make sure there's some protein in each meal.

It's not rocket science.
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Originally Posted By Ironface
You’re killing me man. It’s like you didn’t even read the first paragraph
just saying its like the only supp that works out there for us natty grahams bro
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Originally Posted By ScottTil
just saying its like the only supp that works out there for us natty grahams bro
Didn’t even say that you shouldn’t take protein supplements - just that it’s not necessary. Whole foods - bread, pasta, rice, oats, nuts, seeds, milk, cheese, green vegetables - these all contain protein.
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Originally Posted By Ironface
Didn’t even say that you shouldn’t take protein supplements - just that it’s not necessary. Whole foods - bread, pasta, rice, oats, nuts, seeds, milk, cheese, green vegetables - these all contain protein.
I feel like without protein power youd have to eat alot of meat and stuff or milk to get enough protein.
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Srs question, why do you need protein? So you can have the short chain amino acids from it after your body's organs/enzymes break down the long chain acids right? Why not just eat foods like a bunch of fruit that have the same short chains already and skip the whole body stressing digestion process?

I mean it seems like meat is just an easy calorie dense package for the same stuff you can get from a variety of non meats. But the cost is organ stress.
post 1616870401 09-18-2020, 04:36 AM
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Other benefits include better pumps (glycogen stores filled) and carbs just make you feel fukking good....I don’t mean the taste, I mean the serotonin release you get from consuming carbs. Carbs just make you feel happy and loading up on carbs before bed has been shown to improve sleep quality (srs)

Better sleep = better recovery = better gains
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I thought 0.72/lb is around ideal (from there on you don't have any extra benefits), and if you're on the lower end of that, say around 0.6, what's going to happen? Your muscle is not going to fly off. The progress will be slower or in a cut you will lose a tiny bit of muscle.

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You don't need as much proteins as it claimed.

Avoid protein powder

Eat real food
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Originally Posted By Ironface
You’re killing me man. It’s like you didn’t even read the first paragraph
*reads thread title*

Ok bro
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
Protein supplements are a con.

Just eat food and make sure there's some protein in each meal.

It's not rocket science.
You stopped training years ago
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Originally Posted By Brozef
*reads thread title*

Ok bro
Ok, replace bullchit with overrated. Problem solved
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who would’ve guessed. all supplements are bullshtt, too bad bb.com makes their revenue through selling this nonsense
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Of course it's bullchit just look at rhynos or gorillas they get almost no protein but have more muscle than you will ever have even on steroids.
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also the guy in that video is on steroids. genuinely lol that he's still fooling novices

gains 20lbs of lean muscle in under 2 months. " I changed my mindset"
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
also the guy in that video is on steroids. genuinely lol that he's still fooling novices

gains 20lbs of lean muscle in under 2 months. " I changed my mindset"
Nothing about his physique screams roid use. His lifts are suss but he has elite genetics and 20 years of lifting behind him and basically devotes his life to lifting and WWE
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Originally Posted By Ironface
Nothing about his physique screams roid use. His lifts are suss but he has elite genetics and 20 years of lifting behind him and basically devotes his life to lifting and WWE
you will learn. these guys lie straight to your face

"elite genetics" biggest load of bullshtt
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Protein is definitely necessary but over blown of proportions if im not mistaken the recommended daily intake should be 0.8-1.3g of protein per kilogram of LEAN mass ( not overall bodyweight) also with time you utilize it better so you can get to the lower threshold without any sacrifices.
That being said everyone should experiment on themselves , some thrive more with more protein while others can do the same on less protein ( given the other macros are the same).
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
you will learn. these guys lie straight to your face

"elite genetics" biggest load of bullshtt
Intredasting
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Originally Posted By Ironface
Didn’t even say that you shouldn’t take protein supplements - just that it’s not necessary. Whole foods - bread, pasta, rice, oats, nuts, seeds, milk, cheese, green vegetables - these all contain protein.
Protein that your body cant do **** with. Bio availability matters.
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Originally Posted By Ironface
Didn’t even say that you shouldn’t take protein supplements - just that it’s not necessary. Whole foods - bread, pasta, rice, oats, nuts, seeds, milk, cheese, green vegetables - these all contain protein.
No chit. protein is protein. but a protein shake is convenient, it's cheap, fast. And it's tough eating a lot of protein unless you got money to waste on steak/fish. Or if you want to eat fukking chicken breast every day.
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its important, but not as much as people like to make it. Honestly, I'm not sure most people would notice much difference if they only got 100-120 g/day. Its kind of like worrying about what kind of golf ball you hit when you are a 30 handicap. it might make a difference for the peak performers, but for most people, not so much.
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Originally Posted By Ironface
Nothing about his physique screams roid use. His lifts are suss but he has elite genetics and 20 years of lifting behind him and basically devotes his life to lifting and WWE
And what is Santa bringing you this year, buddy?

You spoke to the Easter Bunny yet?
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so... are you basing this off of your own experience? or some youtuber?
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