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10-05-2020, 01:56 PM
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Companies hiring rookies over 30yo vets
30 now brahs I've noticed some companies do not want to hire a middle aged guy as he will want higher salary and have critical thinking skills.
While a young guy fresh out of school is naive, will accept low pay and work for free an hour or two per day and also can be brainwashed into whatever corporate directive is priority (diversity and inclusion).
Thoughts? I always thought skills and experience and competency is important
While a young guy fresh out of school is naive, will accept low pay and work for free an hour or two per day and also can be brainwashed into whatever corporate directive is priority (diversity and inclusion).
Thoughts? I always thought skills and experience and competency is important
10-05-2020, 01:57 PM
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10-05-2020, 01:58 PM
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10-05-2020, 02:04 PM
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My old job (small private business with large sales goals in the tech industry) was very forthcoming and strong about the idea of hiring young dumb and broke college grads to mold into their workforce, and then the employees would work OT for free (salary = no OT). Although to be fair, the starter pay was slightly above average.
Got a new job after a couple of years of working there, except this time now at a large co. and it's a night and day difference. Coworkers ranging from 23 to mid 40's, over time pay as needed, better benefits/bonuses.
The job you're describing in the OP sounds like the "newer, smaller, younger, ambitious" company I used to work for. Would advise getting the experience, hustling for certs/education outside of work, and then move on to a larger company with that relevant knowledge/experience.
Got a new job after a couple of years of working there, except this time now at a large co. and it's a night and day difference. Coworkers ranging from 23 to mid 40's, over time pay as needed, better benefits/bonuses.
The job you're describing in the OP sounds like the "newer, smaller, younger, ambitious" company I used to work for. Would advise getting the experience, hustling for certs/education outside of work, and then move on to a larger company with that relevant knowledge/experience.
10-05-2020, 02:19 PM
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At this age (im 34) your experience really comes into play when being considered for a job.
By this point in your career you should have either excelled to a higher level or you've shown that you're ok with settling and if you've settled in a position that can be done by someone with relatively low experience, that's who your competition will be....and most likely they will do the job for less.
You've also developed work habits, weather you realize it or not that will give an employer an idea of what kind of employee you are...and ones that may be hard to break even once you transfer to another company.
If you've been at the same company for 6 years, in the same position...what does that tell them about your ambition/drive? In comparison to someone who's (like myself) been with 2 different companies in the last 7 years and been promoted 5 times with the first and 3 time with my most recent. Or if you job hop, but only really change company, not move up in responsibility/position.
At 34, I'm still the youngest in the room.....and my last job interview process, they told me I was the youngest of the group being interviewed by a considerable number of years and asked me directly how I thought my lack of experience would play out.
By this point in your career you should have either excelled to a higher level or you've shown that you're ok with settling and if you've settled in a position that can be done by someone with relatively low experience, that's who your competition will be....and most likely they will do the job for less.
You've also developed work habits, weather you realize it or not that will give an employer an idea of what kind of employee you are...and ones that may be hard to break even once you transfer to another company.
If you've been at the same company for 6 years, in the same position...what does that tell them about your ambition/drive? In comparison to someone who's (like myself) been with 2 different companies in the last 7 years and been promoted 5 times with the first and 3 time with my most recent. Or if you job hop, but only really change company, not move up in responsibility/position.
At 34, I'm still the youngest in the room.....and my last job interview process, they told me I was the youngest of the group being interviewed by a considerable number of years and asked me directly how I thought my lack of experience would play out.
10-05-2020, 02:29 PM
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10-05-2020, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By bsmit107⏩
Bla bla bla all this bull**** for some 40/70k a year job.At this age (im 34) your experience really comes into play when being considered for a job.
By this point in your career you should have either excelled to a higher level or you've shown that you're ok with settling and if you've settled in a position that can be done by someone with relatively low experience, that's who your competition will be....and most likely they will do the job for less.
You've also developed work habits, weather you realize it or not that will give an employer an idea of what kind of employee you are...and ones that may be hard to break even once you transfer to another company.
If you've been at the same company for 6 years, in the same position...what does that tell them about your ambition/drive? In comparison to someone who's (like myself) been with 2 different companies in the last 7 years and been promoted 5 times with the first and 3 time with my most recent. Or if you job hop, but only really change company, not move up in responsibility/position.
At 34, I'm still the youngest in the room.....and my last job interview process, they told me I was the youngest of the group being interviewed by a considerable number of years and asked me directly how I thought my lack of experience would play out.
By this point in your career you should have either excelled to a higher level or you've shown that you're ok with settling and if you've settled in a position that can be done by someone with relatively low experience, that's who your competition will be....and most likely they will do the job for less.
You've also developed work habits, weather you realize it or not that will give an employer an idea of what kind of employee you are...and ones that may be hard to break even once you transfer to another company.
If you've been at the same company for 6 years, in the same position...what does that tell them about your ambition/drive? In comparison to someone who's (like myself) been with 2 different companies in the last 7 years and been promoted 5 times with the first and 3 time with my most recent. Or if you job hop, but only really change company, not move up in responsibility/position.
At 34, I'm still the youngest in the room.....and my last job interview process, they told me I was the youngest of the group being interviewed by a considerable number of years and asked me directly how I thought my lack of experience would play out.
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10-05-2020, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Dale1988⏩
thryre supposed to get more bang for their buck with experience.30 now brahs I've noticed some companies do not want to hire a middle aged guy as he will want higher salary and have critical thinking skills.
While a young guy fresh out of school is naive, will accept low pay and work for free an hour or two per day and also can be brainwashed into whatever corporate directive is priority (diversity and inclusion).
Thoughts? I always thought skills and experience and competency is important
While a young guy fresh out of school is naive, will accept low pay and work for free an hour or two per day and also can be brainwashed into whatever corporate directive is priority (diversity and inclusion).
Thoughts? I always thought skills and experience and competency is important
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10-05-2020, 02:41 PM
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10-05-2020, 02:47 PM
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LOL - 30 ain't old or even that experienced. Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) forbids age discrimination against people who are age 40 or older.
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10-05-2020, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Yeah in software engineering it's mandatory to job hop to survive IMO. But it lets us innovated and fail more often.^^ depends upon the industry really. in engineering (not software) it isn't mandatory to job hop.
10-05-2020, 02:51 PM
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that seems the modern way of managing, it's very shortsighted imo
saves you a few bucks now, lines your investors pockets and allows you to talk like things are running great because profits are great but it's rotten to the core underneath and the actual workplace is dysfunctional with low morale
i suppose it works if your employees are all hyper-specialized and your product is reliant upon quantity but as soon as there's a hiccup chit comes to a grinding halt
seems like the goal used to be lifelong employees that wanted growth, now it's all about profit min-maxing
saves you a few bucks now, lines your investors pockets and allows you to talk like things are running great because profits are great but it's rotten to the core underneath and the actual workplace is dysfunctional with low morale
i suppose it works if your employees are all hyper-specialized and your product is reliant upon quantity but as soon as there's a hiccup chit comes to a grinding halt
seems like the goal used to be lifelong employees that wanted growth, now it's all about profit min-maxing
10-05-2020, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By bsmit107⏩
The issue I'm having is that when i apply for a job that is abit different but I'm qualified for and have some experience in the companies do bait and switch and offer me same job I had before (middle management) that I dont want to do any more as I've done it for 5 years and want to growAt this age (im 34) your experience really comes into play when being considered for a job.
By this point in your career you should have either excelled to a higher level or you've shown that you're ok with settling and if you've settled in a position that can be done by someone with relatively low experience, that's who your competition will be....and most likely they will do the job for less.
You've also developed work habits, weather you realize it or not that will give an employer an idea of what kind of employee you are...and ones that may be hard to break even once you transfer to another company.
If you've been at the same company for 6 years, in the same position...what does that tell them about your ambition/drive? In comparison to someone who's (like myself) been with 2 different companies in the last 7 years and been promoted 5 times with the first and 3 time with my most recent. Or if you job hop, but only really change company, not move up in responsibility/position.
At 34, I'm still the youngest in the room.....and my last job interview process, they told me I was the youngest of the group being interviewed by a considerable number of years and asked me directly how I thought my lack of experience would play out.
By this point in your career you should have either excelled to a higher level or you've shown that you're ok with settling and if you've settled in a position that can be done by someone with relatively low experience, that's who your competition will be....and most likely they will do the job for less.
You've also developed work habits, weather you realize it or not that will give an employer an idea of what kind of employee you are...and ones that may be hard to break even once you transfer to another company.
If you've been at the same company for 6 years, in the same position...what does that tell them about your ambition/drive? In comparison to someone who's (like myself) been with 2 different companies in the last 7 years and been promoted 5 times with the first and 3 time with my most recent. Or if you job hop, but only really change company, not move up in responsibility/position.
At 34, I'm still the youngest in the room.....and my last job interview process, they told me I was the youngest of the group being interviewed by a considerable number of years and asked me directly how I thought my lack of experience would play out.
Meanwhile some 21yo will get the job I want even though they have no idea what their doing
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