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10-16-2020, 12:40 PM
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Refute my logic please (srs) (covid)
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IF covid is not particularly deadly compared to past pandemics (IFR ~0.1%, ~99% old people)
AND Sweden, Japan and Belarus exist, everyone knows they exist, we can see that lockdowns are unnecessary and herd immunity is best for public health
AND lockdown measures have no prior anecdotal or scientific evidence base, many non-government affiliated scientists protest that they have a net negative effect on public health yet the government ignores this
THEN any country using these lockdown measures is doing it for some reason other than public health
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IF all institutions and centers of power are falsely claiming that this is for public health and virtually every Western country is in sync with the agenda
AND IMF and World Bank pressured Lukashenko to lockdown Belarus, offering $1Bn bribe in ‘covid relief’
THEN Western governments are controlled by a supranational group or groups of conspirators who are using these methods of social control to force a total transformation of society for some undisclosed purpose
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IF covid acts like flu in that it mutates and makes new strains, so people can get it more than once and vaccination is ineffective
THEN this transformation of society is intended to be permanent
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IF they are curtailing our most basic rights of movement, assembly and association and destroying the economy under these false pretences
THEN the conspirators are malevolent as they either don’t care how many lives they destroy in the process of making their new society or are destroying lives on purpose as a part of it
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ELSE Most Western leaders are just monumentally stupid and incompetent, so much so that they can’t even make basic observations about the world, come to reasonable conclusions and make decisions based on those conclusions
AND we are all stuck in an all encompassing system of managerialism where no one is really in charge and all the idiots somehow organically rise to the top and all come to the same erroneous conclusions
IF covid is not particularly deadly compared to past pandemics (IFR ~0.1%, ~99% old people)
AND Sweden, Japan and Belarus exist, everyone knows they exist, we can see that lockdowns are unnecessary and herd immunity is best for public health
AND lockdown measures have no prior anecdotal or scientific evidence base, many non-government affiliated scientists protest that they have a net negative effect on public health yet the government ignores this
THEN any country using these lockdown measures is doing it for some reason other than public health
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IF all institutions and centers of power are falsely claiming that this is for public health and virtually every Western country is in sync with the agenda
AND IMF and World Bank pressured Lukashenko to lockdown Belarus, offering $1Bn bribe in ‘covid relief’
THEN Western governments are controlled by a supranational group or groups of conspirators who are using these methods of social control to force a total transformation of society for some undisclosed purpose
3.
IF covid acts like flu in that it mutates and makes new strains, so people can get it more than once and vaccination is ineffective
THEN this transformation of society is intended to be permanent
4.
IF they are curtailing our most basic rights of movement, assembly and association and destroying the economy under these false pretences
THEN the conspirators are malevolent as they either don’t care how many lives they destroy in the process of making their new society or are destroying lives on purpose as a part of it
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ELSE Most Western leaders are just monumentally stupid and incompetent, so much so that they can’t even make basic observations about the world, come to reasonable conclusions and make decisions based on those conclusions
AND we are all stuck in an all encompassing system of managerialism where no one is really in charge and all the idiots somehow organically rise to the top and all come to the same erroneous conclusions
10-16-2020, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
No.can you shorten this with qualifiers, quantifiers, the symbols →, ^ and V ?
10-16-2020, 12:45 PM
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lol this is good OP. Really good.
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10-16-2020, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Glutebrahhh⏩
It's been almost 7 months bro, 7 months. I don't know how much more I can take.lol this is good OP. Really good.
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“The worst pain a man can suffer is to have insight into much and power over nothing.” ― Herodotus
10-16-2020, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
I'm leaving this gey ass country (granted, for a geyer communist country) but..It's been almost 7 months bro, 7 months. I don't know how much more I can take.
“The worst pain a man can suffer is to have insight into much and power over nothing.” ― Herodotus
“The worst pain a man can suffer is to have insight into much and power over nothing.” ― Herodotus
So it goes.
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10-16-2020, 12:56 PM
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It's not about keeping people safe. Never has been.
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10-16-2020, 12:58 PM
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Even the boomers are about tired of the this covid bullchit now.
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^^^It's not about keeping people safe. Never has been.
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10-16-2020, 01:00 PM
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Not even reading all that...but based on just the very first you compare anything to an island nation is just retarded. Ill also assume you havnt even actually done more than 2minutes of googling looking into the repsonse/outcome of sweden and belarus.
covid having a low mortality rate =/= it not being deadly. The reason why the rate is low is bc we have strong medical technology.
In any case, the majority of industry is open. Entertainment is probably the last one...but even then, its starting to come back in limited form
covid having a low mortality rate =/= it not being deadly. The reason why the rate is low is bc we have strong medical technology.
In any case, the majority of industry is open. Entertainment is probably the last one...but even then, its starting to come back in limited form
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10-16-2020, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
So wut do? SrsIt's not about keeping people safe. Never has been.
Take the stoic way out? Just curl up and retreat into a shell like a turtle and endure?
Nihilism? Just don't give any fuks about it?
Or actually try to do something besides posting on the misc? In which case wut do?
10-16-2020, 01:00 PM
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Why you think globalists want an all powerful government ruling everyone? There's nothing to refute op.
You just stated the truth.
You just stated the truth.
Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
You donate to the misc island. We need it now more than ever.Or actually try to do something besides posting on the misc? In which case wut do?
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10-16-2020, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13⏩
If you are not going to read it and reply genuinely, I am not going to give you a genuine response. Kindly go and find the sharpest object in your vicinity and fuk yourself with it.Not even reading all that...but based on just the very first you compare anything to an island nation is just retarded. Ill also assume you havnt even actually done more than 2minutes of googling looking into the repsonse/outcome of sweden and belarus.
covid having a low mortality rate =/= it not being deadly. The reason why the rate is low is bc we have strong medical technology.
In any case, the majority of industry is open. Entertainment is probably the last one...but even then, its starting to come back in limited form
covid having a low mortality rate =/= it not being deadly. The reason why the rate is low is bc we have strong medical technology.
In any case, the majority of industry is open. Entertainment is probably the last one...but even then, its starting to come back in limited form
10-16-2020, 01:23 PM
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Before I start, I 100% believe lockdowns are retarded and do more harm than good. We should be shielding the old/vulnerable and letting everyone else get on with life. The message being pumped out by the government should be "protect the elderly, stay away from your grandparents", etc. Instead we get a clusterfuk of conflicting information.
There is clearly belief that a vaccine will be somewhat effective.
If there is some global conspiracy, why on earth are Sweden rolling solo? They're in the t3 for most cucked country in every other area.
Sweden has 10x more deaths than neighboring countries (very similar populations and demographics).
If your goal is to reduce deaths (from Covid) as much as possible, intermittent lockdowns until a vaccine would see better outcomes than herd immunity.
I think it's a mix of stupidity and trying to maintain power. Coming out and committing to a plan of herd immunity would have been political suicide. BoJo literally did it for about 3 days and had to backpedal and pretend like it never happened for that reason.
There is clearly belief that a vaccine will be somewhat effective.
If there is some global conspiracy, why on earth are Sweden rolling solo? They're in the t3 for most cucked country in every other area.
Sweden has 10x more deaths than neighboring countries (very similar populations and demographics).
If your goal is to reduce deaths (from Covid) as much as possible, intermittent lockdowns until a vaccine would see better outcomes than herd immunity.
I think it's a mix of stupidity and trying to maintain power. Coming out and committing to a plan of herd immunity would have been political suicide. BoJo literally did it for about 3 days and had to backpedal and pretend like it never happened for that reason.
10-16-2020, 01:25 PM
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Unfortunately I think it's just some version of the last theory. They are stuck in a perpetual loop driven by virtue signalling, along with the fear of being crucified by cancel culture (and not just the social media kind).
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10-16-2020, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
lmao i was literally thinking thiscan you shorten this with qualifiers, quantifiers, the symbols →, ↔, ^ and V ?
OP politicians are fighting for their jobs and have to be careful what they do and say, so yes i believe there is a high chance of a global "conspiracy" like what youre saying, but there is also a chance this is just politicians trying to remain in power because their constituents are scared pussys and will attack them if they open the economy.
I seriously think what you mention is the case tho..
10-16-2020, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
Once Im financially independent i will buy my own land and a couple ar-15s and mind my own business unless **** gets out of hand and the constitution is being ripped apart. Then im joining whatever militia forms and fighting srs. There are many former green berets/SOF guys out there that could lead us, and ill stand behind themSo wut do? Srs
Take the stoic way out? Just curl up and retreat into a shell like a turtle and endure?
Nihilism? Just don't give any fuks about it?
Or actually try to do something besides posting on the misc? In which case wut do?
Take the stoic way out? Just curl up and retreat into a shell like a turtle and endure?
Nihilism? Just don't give any fuks about it?
Or actually try to do something besides posting on the misc? In which case wut do?
10-16-2020, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
As I understand it a vaccine will have similar effectiveness to the flu shot.Before I start, I 100% believe lockdowns are retarded and do more harm than good. We should be shielding the old/vulnerable and letting everyone else get on with life. The message being pumped out by the government should be "protect the elderly, stay away from your grandparents", etc. Instead we get a clusterfuk of conflicting information.
There is clearly belief that a vaccine will be somewhat effective.
If there is some global conspiracy, why on earth are Sweden rolling solo? They're in the t3 for most cucked country in every other area.
Sweden has 10x more deaths than neighboring countries (very similar populations and demographics).
If your goal is to reduce deaths (from Covid) as much as possible, intermittent lockdowns until a vaccine would see better outcomes than herd immunity.
I think it's a mix of stupidity and trying to maintain power. Coming out and committing to a plan of herd immunity would have been political suicide. BoJo literally did it for about 3 days and had to backpedal and pretend like it never happened for that reason.
There is clearly belief that a vaccine will be somewhat effective.
If there is some global conspiracy, why on earth are Sweden rolling solo? They're in the t3 for most cucked country in every other area.
Sweden has 10x more deaths than neighboring countries (very similar populations and demographics).
If your goal is to reduce deaths (from Covid) as much as possible, intermittent lockdowns until a vaccine would see better outcomes than herd immunity.
I think it's a mix of stupidity and trying to maintain power. Coming out and committing to a plan of herd immunity would have been political suicide. BoJo literally did it for about 3 days and had to backpedal and pretend like it never happened for that reason.
The issue of Sweden is interesting. I really don't know how far to trust the stats, it would take far too long to delve into exactly how each country counts their deaths. It could be like comparing apples to oranges. Still, they have twice the population of all their neighbours and greater population density than Norway and Finland. 100K cases and 6K deaths is still very small in the grand scheme of things.
If I really put my tinfoil hat on, I would say that as Sweden was singled out as the canary in the coal mine for the agenda before, now for some reason it is the opposite, it is the piece of evidence left for people to point to and stay unheard. In a sadistic, sanctimonious way they may like to leave something which they know most people will miss or deliberately ignore.
I wonder what pressure was put on our government to change their path. Was it really just the idea of losing votes and did they really take the Imperial model that seriously? It wouldn't be political suicide now, so why do they still not do it? Maybe Trump will win next month, he will do it and they will follow his lead. One can only hope.
Originally Posted By tvr123⏩
That's fair enough. I'm not some conspiracy nut as much as it may seem otherwise. I don't know which scenario is worse though tbh.Unfortunately I think it's just some version of the last theory. They are stuck in a perpetual loop driven by virtue signalling, along with the fear of being crucified by cancel culture (and not just the social media kind).
10-16-2020, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
I thought Sweden's population was around 6m or 7m. But yeah it's 10m.As I understand it a vaccine will have similar effectiveness to the flu shot.
The issue of Sweden is interesting. I really don't know how far to trust the stats, it would take far too long to delve into exactly how each country counts their deaths. It could be like comparing apples to oranges. Still, they have twice the population of all their neighbours and greater population density than Norway and Finland. 100K cases and 6K deaths is still very small in the grand scheme of things.
If I really put my tinfoil hat on, I would say that as Sweden was singled out as the canary in the coal mine for the agenda before, now for some reason it is the opposite, it is the piece of evidence left for people to point to and stay unheard. In a sadistic, sanctimonious way they may like to leave something which they know most people will miss or deliberately ignore.
I wonder what pressure was put on our government to change their path. Was it really just the idea of losing votes and did they really take the Imperial model that seriously? It wouldn't be political suicide now, so why do they still not do it? Maybe Trump will win next month, he will do it and they will follow his lead. One can only hope.
The issue of Sweden is interesting. I really don't know how far to trust the stats, it would take far too long to delve into exactly how each country counts their deaths. It could be like comparing apples to oranges. Still, they have twice the population of all their neighbours and greater population density than Norway and Finland. 100K cases and 6K deaths is still very small in the grand scheme of things.
If I really put my tinfoil hat on, I would say that as Sweden was singled out as the canary in the coal mine for the agenda before, now for some reason it is the opposite, it is the piece of evidence left for people to point to and stay unheard. In a sadistic, sanctimonious way they may like to leave something which they know most people will miss or deliberately ignore.
I wonder what pressure was put on our government to change their path. Was it really just the idea of losing votes and did they really take the Imperial model that seriously? It wouldn't be political suicide now, so why do they still not do it? Maybe Trump will win next month, he will do it and they will follow his lead. One can only hope.
If there truly is a conspiracy orchestrated by evil overlords, there's literally nothing you can do about it. I know that sounds extremely depressing and ****gy, but it's just true. If there is a group of people who have the power to shut down the entire global economy, how can you fight it?
I really don't see what their goal would be though. You can't control 8 billion people forever. Collapsing economies wouldn't make people dependent on them/governments, it would be absolute chaos. There would be far less control than "they" have now where everyone just goes to work, pays their taxes, and consumes chit.
10-16-2020, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
I seriously doubt the U.S, U.K, Chinese and Russian militaries will ever allow these people to get their way if it goes to far. Pretty sure every member in the military takes an oath to defend against all enemies to protect the constitution, and I have faith if these evil people get close to destroying america the CIA and military will fight them.I thought Sweden's population was around 6m or 7m. But yeah it's 10m.
If there truly is a conspiracy orchestrated by evil overlords, there's literally nothing you can do about it. I know that sounds extremely depressing and ****gy, but it's just true. If there is a group of people who have the power to shut down the entire global economy, how can you fight it?
I really don't see what their goal would be though. You can't control 8 billion people forever. Collapsing economies wouldn't make people dependent on them/governments, it would be absolute chaos. There would be far less control than "they" could possibly have now where everyone just goes to work, pays their taxes, and consumes chit.
If there truly is a conspiracy orchestrated by evil overlords, there's literally nothing you can do about it. I know that sounds extremely depressing and ****gy, but it's just true. If there is a group of people who have the power to shut down the entire global economy, how can you fight it?
I really don't see what their goal would be though. You can't control 8 billion people forever. Collapsing economies wouldn't make people dependent on them/governments, it would be absolute chaos. There would be far less control than "they" could possibly have now where everyone just goes to work, pays their taxes, and consumes chit.
We can only pray tho
10-16-2020, 02:30 PM
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Quality post op. Let’s simplify it.
Either the governments of the world are moving the final chess pieces in a game of total enslavement OR everyone is retarded.
I subscribe to the retard theory
Either the governments of the world are moving the final chess pieces in a game of total enslavement OR everyone is retarded.
I subscribe to the retard theory
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