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post 1620617651 10-27-2020, 04:42 PM
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TIL: Alt Right vs. Alt Lite

It wasn't anything I was planning to do with my day, but somehow I ended up in a back and forth with my ex around current events and election related tensions.

My ex says Joe Rogan is alt right, which was funny to me since he gets called a lefty around here. To which I replied that it seems like anyone who doesn't agree with "your side" is labeled as being on the other side...in general, not just him.

Made me curious how the term alt right is defined and what it is supposed to mean:
Thealt rightis an extremely loose movement, made up of different strands ofpeople connected to white supremacy.

Alt rightersuse terms like “culture” as substitutes for more divisive terms such as “race,” and promote “Western Civilization” as a code word for white culture or identity. They tend to avoid explicit white supremacist references like the “14 words,” a slogan used by neo-Nazis and other hardcore white supremacists. While alt righters share the sentiment behind the “14 words” they’re more inclined to talk about preserving European-American identity.

Another aspect of the alt right subculture is its connection to the online world of misogyny known broadly as the “manosphere.”Men in this movement believe they are being stripped of power by women and pro-feminist social structures. They also are hostile to women on a personal level, with some believing that women are objects to be possessed and used for sexual gratification, while others resent women for their own inability to attract them or to form meaningful relationships with them.
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In 2015 and 2016, a number of people who considered themselves part of the alt right were not white supremacists, but held certain views that aligned with white supremacist ideology:they were anti-immigrant, anti-globalism, anti-feminism and believed that the left and/or liberals are actively working to destroy American culture.

These people became known as the “alt lite.”
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgr...hite-supremacy

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post 1620617831 10-27-2020, 04:44 PM
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Your ex is especially clueless, but tbh you probably are too. Humour me, name some internet personalities you think are 'alt-right'.
post 1620617971 10-27-2020, 04:46 PM
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Your ex sounds

post 1620618141 10-27-2020, 04:47 PM
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Anything that makes sense and betters the world in any way is considered alt right to todays leftist retards
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post 1620618181 10-27-2020, 04:47 PM
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These definitions you have found seem to be made up by someone with their political motivation in mind. I don't believe even 2% of the population in any country fits into the first category "alt-right"
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post 1620618461 10-27-2020, 04:50 PM
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Imagine being a red-blooded male and voting Democrat.
post 1620619201 10-27-2020, 04:57 PM
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ADL is a joke. No such thing as alt right, it’s made up by ****gy time beta liberals like your ex.
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post 1620619381 10-27-2020, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By PenorBrahNoHomo⏩
Your ex is especially clueless, but tbh you probably are too. Humour me, name some internet personalities you think are 'alt-right'.
Oh I've seriously never given it that much thought. I've heard the term used and mentally wrote it off as "someone I don't like because they don't agree with my point of view". That's why I tried looking it up.

I feel like I have mostly stayed in the same place while the loudest wing of the Democratic party hasn't so much just moved to the left as they seem to have moved to this shaming/bullying thing that I'm not okay with. Not agreeing is fine. Backing up your argument with facts is better.

Invalidating other people's right to have a dissenting opinion is a dead end for a democracy.
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post 1620619571 10-27-2020, 05:00 PM
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post 1620619771 10-27-2020, 05:02 PM
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post 1620620111 10-27-2020, 05:05 PM
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Right and Left are meaningless terms. You can believe in a socialist society with racial ideology as well.
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fkn lmao @ using ADL as a source for anything except lolz
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990⏩
These definitions you have found seem to be made up by someone with their political motivation in mind. I don't believe even 2% of the population in any country fits into the first category "alt-right"
Well it is very convenient that they lump in people who are nationalist,want controlled immigration, and value traditional gender roles with white supremacists and claim that said group emerged as an offshoot of a white supremacist movement full of misogynists.

I did try to point out to him that labeling and suppressing dissent is a useful tool. I don't think it sank in.
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post 1620621051 10-27-2020, 05:14 PM
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Labels are so unproductive when it comes to politics.
post 1620621251 10-27-2020, 05:16 PM
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I don't know in what universe you could consider Joe Rogan somebody from the "alt-right", although the term itself is very loosely defined and is used very liberally (pun intended) to define a movement or group the other side considers racist.

When I think of alt-right, I just picture a bunch of internet neckbeards and edgelords that are bitter towards women and basically just act/troll in ways to rustle liberals and lefties. Basically provocateurs and the embodiment of everything that the left/liberals hate, on the internet. In real life, they are practically not relevant/non-existent.



Joe Rogan IMO is more centre-left in terms of his views. He says some pretty stupid chit sometimes but you can at least say he doesn't have TDS and is open to listening and criticizing both sides.
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post 1620623271 10-27-2020, 05:39 PM
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Did you guys fukk after?
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Birds of a feather. Two morons repeating talking points from the biggest hypocrites in documented history.
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