Thread: Is diversity failing the USA?
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Is diversity failing the USA?
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While Europe is becoming culturallyandethnically diverse which causes cultural issues of its own, the USA was supposed to be ethnically diverse, withoneprevailing culture - American culture.
But the whole BLM protests and this election seems to just show that a huge amount of minorities will not stand for the existing culture of America. They want to create it in their own image, which apparently includes some form of wealth transfer through socialist policies.
Seems like the price of diversity is having your culture dissolved and politics takes a hard-left.
Discuss.
While Europe is becoming culturallyandethnically diverse which causes cultural issues of its own, the USA was supposed to be ethnically diverse, withoneprevailing culture - American culture.
But the whole BLM protests and this election seems to just show that a huge amount of minorities will not stand for the existing culture of America. They want to create it in their own image, which apparently includes some form of wealth transfer through socialist policies.
Seems like the price of diversity is having your culture dissolved and politics takes a hard-left.
Discuss.
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brb everyone in the world 'diversity is our strength'
brb china not diverse at all yet it is the biggest threat USA is facing (GDP, innovation at a level never seen before)
brb china not diverse at all yet it is the biggest threat USA is facing (GDP, innovation at a level never seen before)
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Like Yugoslavia after the death of Tito, America is fast losing its unifying, singular culture. If this trend is not corrected, the country will continue to Balkanize and divide, harassment and violence will eventually be met with harassment and violence of equal or greater magnitude, guerilla movements will form in the vein of Germany's brown shirts v. Antifa Volume I.
Eventually one of three things will happen: one of these groups will make a play for power, the country will enter into some kind of srs internal conflict and abandon its role as global hegemon to the Chinese, or it will go the way of the Soviet Union and the whole phucking experiment will be signed away in an afternoon by bureaucrats eager to line their pockets.
People are people, and history is a cyclical (rather than linear) process. 21rd century man is no wiser than he was in the 1rd century.
I always liked the following Reagan quote because it perfectly exemplifies how tenuous the entire idea of western neoliberal democracy is:
Eventually one of three things will happen: one of these groups will make a play for power, the country will enter into some kind of srs internal conflict and abandon its role as global hegemon to the Chinese, or it will go the way of the Soviet Union and the whole phucking experiment will be signed away in an afternoon by bureaucrats eager to line their pockets.
People are people, and history is a cyclical (rather than linear) process. 21rd century man is no wiser than he was in the 1rd century.
I always liked the following Reagan quote because it perfectly exemplifies how tenuous the entire idea of western neoliberal democracy is:
Perhaps you and I have lived with this miracle too long to be properly appreciative. Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again.
Good luck Ameribrahs, but you guys are phucking fumbling the ball hardcore right now.
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You can't have a true first world nation with a third world population / mind set and you can't have any decency with certain types of cultures. I'm talking about the types of cultures that are glorified in mainstream music, movies, television, literature and video games. These are all destructive to the individual and the communities that people form. Diversity as it's being paraded around today is not a strength, it's a corrosive acid. The true face of diversity is division, it's a beast with multiple heads all trying to go off in their own directions. You're putting a bunch of different people with wildly different and in many cases incompatible cultures up against one another and calling that diversity. It's all about destabilization.
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Ask yourself this tho... is forced diversity an act of genocide according to the UN legal definition:
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
I would argue yes and that Western governments should be found guilty, but like whatever, you do you boo.
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
I would argue yes and that Western governments should be found guilty, but like whatever, you do you boo.
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Originally Posted By rdper76⏩
No, that is phucking retarded. Diversity only becomes a problem when the dominant culture loses its confidence in itself and can no longer explain properly why it is dominant and it therefore stop assimilating people.Ask yourself this tho... is forced diversity an act of genocide according to the UN legal definition:
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
I would argue yes and that Western governments should be found guilty, but like whatever, you do you boo.
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
I would argue yes and that Western governments should be found guilty, but like whatever, you do you boo.
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There are two kinds of people in the USA -
Group #1 - Those that want to work hard, make the right life choices, take personal responsibility, be left alone, and live their lives in freedom.
Group #2 - Those that are lazy, make bad choices, take no personal responsibility, always play the victim, want the government to solve all their problems, and want everything for free at the expense of Group #1.
Group #1 - Those that want to work hard, make the right life choices, take personal responsibility, be left alone, and live their lives in freedom.
Group #2 - Those that are lazy, make bad choices, take no personal responsibility, always play the victim, want the government to solve all their problems, and want everything for free at the expense of Group #1.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
I think it could be argued that having an open border with third world chit holes could reasonably be considered:No, that is phucking retarded. Diversity only becomes a problem when the dominant culture loses its confidence in itself and can no longer explain properly why it is dominant.
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part (NOTE: IN PART)
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Originally Posted By rdper76⏩
Sure I agree with that, but to imply America has anything resembling an open border right now is laughable. Even under DACA daddy Obama, the border was still reasonably rigidly enforced.I think it could be argued that having an open border with third world chit holes could reasonably be considered:
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part (NOTE: IN PART)
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part (NOTE: IN PART)
Moreover, it wouldn't matter how many immigrants came into the US if they all became good Americans and white/black/brown American society was confident enough in itself and healthy enough in general to assimilate newcomers and more importantly to outbreed them at above replacement levels. Which they damn near aren't doing now btw.
11-07-2020, 04:48 AM
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Inter planetary colonization will solve this problem. If that doesn't happen, then nothing will be solved because you have races eating themselves from the inside all in the name of flawed ideology.
As the Earth become inhabitable and everything turns to chaos you will still have tribe mentality and class wars.
Countries that allow immigrants to not assimilate have themselves to blame. It should be a natural human decency if you're given the honor of moving and being prosperous that you abide by your new destinations culture+laws, or at the very least respect them. This isn't happening at all.
Bleeding heart whites have made tolerance a one-way street. Even something as fair as a zero tolerance on any major felony or you are deported would be screamed at for being discriminatory.
As the Earth become inhabitable and everything turns to chaos you will still have tribe mentality and class wars.
Countries that allow immigrants to not assimilate have themselves to blame. It should be a natural human decency if you're given the honor of moving and being prosperous that you abide by your new destinations culture+laws, or at the very least respect them. This isn't happening at all.
Bleeding heart whites have made tolerance a one-way street. Even something as fair as a zero tolerance on any major felony or you are deported would be screamed at for being discriminatory.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
But could it not be argued that the conditions of life brought about by that there government policies (ie UK, Australia, Sweden etc), be like creating opioid crisis by reducing optimism in that thar economy (taking our jeeerbs etc).Sure I agree with that, but to imply America has anything resembling an open border right now is laughable. Even under DACA daddy Obama, the border was still reasonably rigidly enforced.
Moreover, it wouldn't matter how many immigrants came into the US if they all became good Americans and white/black/brown American society was confident enough in itself and healthy enough in general to assimilate newcomers and more importantly to outbreed them at above replacement levels. Which they damn near aren't doing now btw.
Moreover, it wouldn't matter how many immigrants came into the US if they all became good Americans and white/black/brown American society was confident enough in itself and healthy enough in general to assimilate newcomers and more importantly to outbreed them at above replacement levels. Which they damn near aren't doing now btw.
Also definition "Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group" would be applicable where a native population is forced to transfer resources in the form of taxation --> welfare to another group or race, and therefore be reducing resources for natives to raise their own additional offspring?
I therefore ask that the court finds the listed states GUILTY on the charge of Genocide.
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Texas and Arizona will be blue stronghold states in a few years.
It doesn't take long to alter a culture. Imagine Texas being blue? It will be even easier for populists to jump on this angle.
It doesn't take long to alter a culture. Imagine Texas being blue? It will be even easier for populists to jump on this angle.
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You are seeing culture as something fixed, when it is dynamic in a constant state of flux
This is why conservatism as an ideology is always just fighting the tide
This is why conservatism as an ideology is always just fighting the tide
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Originally Posted By Slayermanlet⏩
Many minorities are conservative by nature (Muslims/catholic Mexicans etc.), but they still overwhelming vote against conservatives in western countries. Because theydon't like western culturewhich conservative Americans are trying to preserve. Hence my original point that diversity doesn't seem to be working out.You are seeing culture as something fixed, when it is dynamic in a constant state of flux
This is why conservatism as an ideology is always just fighting the tide
This is why conservatism as an ideology is always just fighting the tide
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Originally Posted By LegDayLol⏩
oh how Texas was gonna flip blue this year? jfl @ people still trying to predict chit after having a reality star President get elected and a 99.9% survival rate flu 2.0 shut down everything. ask anyone before 2016 if any of this chit could happen. 100% simulationTexas and Arizona will be blue stronghold states in a few years.
It doesn't take long to alter a culture. Imagine Texas being blue? It will be even easier for populists to jump on this angle.
It doesn't take long to alter a culture. Imagine Texas being blue? It will be even easier for populists to jump on this angle.
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-the USA was supposed to be ethnically diverse
wrong USA was supposed to be ethnically white, and it was up until 1965 when some jewish lobbyist and congressmen changed the immmigration policy. thats why america was 90% white up until 1965 to 50-60% today - only 55 years later. the founding fathers naturalization act explicitly stated "free white people of good character" to become a citizen.
and to answer your question, multiculturalism doesnt work. want proof? open your eyes, no one is happy
wrong USA was supposed to be ethnically white, and it was up until 1965 when some jewish lobbyist and congressmen changed the immmigration policy. thats why america was 90% white up until 1965 to 50-60% today - only 55 years later. the founding fathers naturalization act explicitly stated "free white people of good character" to become a citizen.
and to answer your question, multiculturalism doesnt work. want proof? open your eyes, no one is happy
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Originally Posted By LegDayLol⏩
Europe is already culturally and ethnically diverse. English, French, Germanic, Italia, Denmark/Nordic. It has thousands of years of history and genetic and language diversity.srs discussion
While Europe is becoming culturallyandethnically diverse which causes cultural issues of its own, the USA was supposed to be ethnically diverse, withoneprevailing culture - American culture.
But the whole BLM protests and this election seems to just show that a huge amount of minorities will not stand for the existing culture of America. They want to create it in their own image, which apparently includes some form of wealth transfer through socialist policies.
Seems like the price of diversity is having your culture dissolved and politics takes a hard-left.
Discuss.
While Europe is becoming culturallyandethnically diverse which causes cultural issues of its own, the USA was supposed to be ethnically diverse, withoneprevailing culture - American culture.
But the whole BLM protests and this election seems to just show that a huge amount of minorities will not stand for the existing culture of America. They want to create it in their own image, which apparently includes some form of wealth transfer through socialist policies.
Seems like the price of diversity is having your culture dissolved and politics takes a hard-left.
Discuss.
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Originally Posted By LegDayLol⏩
It's has to do with traditional conservative ideals becoming antiquated over time. Immigrants are a vital part of the US economy and the far right refuses to recognize this, based on racial ideals.Many minorities are conservative by nature (Muslims/catholic Mexicans etc.), but they still overwhelming vote against conservatives in western countries. Because theydon't like western culturewhich conservative Americans are trying to preserve. Hence my original point that diversity doesn't seem to be working out.
One case in point. Trump said he was going to deport "bad hombres" and used that as an excuse to deport any and all undocumented persons. In one particular case, some ex military guy who voted for trump in 2016 said he thought he wouldn't have to worry about his 'military wife' being deported. Wrong, family divided.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
Bingo-the USA was supposed to be ethnically diverse
wrong USA was supposed to be ethnically white, and it was up until 1965 when some jewish lobbyist and congressmen changed the immmigration policy. thats why america was 90% white up until 1965 to 50-60% today - only 55 years later. the founding fathers naturalization act explicitly stated "free white people of good character" to become a citizen.
and to answer your question, multiculturalism doesnt work. want proof? open your eyes, no one is happy
wrong USA was supposed to be ethnically white, and it was up until 1965 when some jewish lobbyist and congressmen changed the immmigration policy. thats why america was 90% white up until 1965 to 50-60% today - only 55 years later. the founding fathers naturalization act explicitly stated "free white people of good character" to become a citizen.
and to answer your question, multiculturalism doesnt work. want proof? open your eyes, no one is happy
The problem has been snowballing downhill ever since.
The same has happened in Europe too.
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OP, seems like American culture is the one you like and not the one the other guys like.
There is no such thing as American culture (srs.) Maybe in the 30's when things were more homogenous but not anymore.
There is no such thing as American culture (srs.) Maybe in the 30's when things were more homogenous but not anymore.
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Originally Posted By LegDayLol⏩
Yup, conservatives shooting themselves in the foot though.Many minorities are conservative by nature (Muslims/catholic Mexicans etc.), but they still overwhelming vote against conservatives in western countries. Because theydon't like western culturewhich conservative Americans are trying to preserve. Hence my original point that diversity doesn't seem to be working out.
Racist/bigoted thoughts among it's supporters keep otherwise conservative races/cultures/religions from siding with them.
When a Mexican is made to feel like's he's the "good one of them," it will only be so long until he realizes that this is an inherently disrespectful position to be in.
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Originally Posted By Devils⏩
Europe has major problems with Islamic terrorists. U.K., France, Germany, Belgium.Europe is already culturally and ethnically diverse. English, French, Germanic, Italia, Denmark/Nordic. It has thousands of years of history and genetic and language diversity.
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
Wow does this sum it up well. I’m assuming group one are RepublicansThere are two kinds of people in the USA -
Group #1 - Those that want to work hard, make the right life choices, take personal responsibility, be left alone, and live their lives in freedom.
Group #2 - Those that are lazy, make bad choices, take no personal responsibility, always play the victim, want the government to solve all their problems, and want everything for free at the expense of Group #1.
Group #1 - Those that want to work hard, make the right life choices, take personal responsibility, be left alone, and live their lives in freedom.
Group #2 - Those that are lazy, make bad choices, take no personal responsibility, always play the victim, want the government to solve all their problems, and want everything for free at the expense of Group #1.
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1 white person + 1 non-white person = 1 non-white person
This is simple. Diversity only harms white people.
This is simple. Diversity only harms white people.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
The bolded is what we are losing.-the USA was supposed to be ethnically diverse
wrong USA was supposed to be ethnically white, and it was up until 1965 when some jewish lobbyist and congressmen changed the immmigration policy. thats why america was 90% white up until 1965 to 50-60% today - only 55 years later. the founding fathers naturalization act explicitly stated "free whitepeople of good character" to become a citizen.
and to answer your question, multiculturalism doesnt work. want proof? open your eyes, no one is happy
wrong USA was supposed to be ethnically white, and it was up until 1965 when some jewish lobbyist and congressmen changed the immmigration policy. thats why america was 90% white up until 1965 to 50-60% today - only 55 years later. the founding fathers naturalization act explicitly stated "free whitepeople of good character" to become a citizen.
and to answer your question, multiculturalism doesnt work. want proof? open your eyes, no one is happy
The notion of coming here with your hands out is one that would have been snuffed out immediately
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Originally Posted By ChunkBuster⏩
No it doesn't rofl. The amount of casualties from terrorist attacks in Europe are like 1 weekend in Chicago or Detroit. That's just European's being giant pansies.Europe has major problems with Islamic terrorists. U.K., France, Germany, Belgium.
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Originally Posted By MuslimBrahSwag⏩
ThisYup, conservatives shooting themselves in the foot though.
Racist/bigoted thoughts among it's supporters keep otherwise conservative races/cultures/religions from siding with them.
When a Mexican is made to feel like's he's the "good one of them," it will only be so long until he realizes that this is an inherently disrespectful position to be in.
Racist/bigoted thoughts among it's supporters keep otherwise conservative races/cultures/religions from siding with them.
When a Mexican is made to feel like's he's the "good one of them," it will only be so long until he realizes that this is an inherently disrespectful position to be in.
When you see a racist/bigoted person it's almost always a republican so most minorities vote Democrat
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