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post 1622501841 11-13-2020, 08:58 AM
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Anybody have a loser friend who blames their lack of success on external factors ?

- both 27... know him since way back

- have this friend who is broke , unemployed, living at his dad's house
- hasn't held a job in probably 2-3 years
- no university degree
- has made terrible decisions , and even got played as a simp to this girl he was into ( gave all his money away ) then she moved away
- he also got in some minor legal trouble etc

- i mainly try to keep my distance from him these days because I'm trying to be successful, I'm working full time etc , and the only thing he says when you talk is :

- man there's no jobs around here , or man the rental prices of apartments are crazy around here etc etc just a bunch of COPE for his chitty life situation

My question is : when do these people stop coping and blaming external factors for their situation and wake up one day and finally have an alarm go off in their head that says " man I'm a God damn LOSER "??

Granted this guy was never the smartest ( obviously)

I dont necessary enjoy my job , but you best beleive im grinding it out and making some money at the end of the day


I just feel people like this have poor self awareness and make no reflection of the poor decisions they've made .

If it was me in his shoes I'd wake up everyday to the thought of " man I'm a loser " instead of blaming everything else but MYSELF

Anybody know anyone like this?
post 1622502391 11-13-2020, 09:05 AM
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Most people I know are losers.

Most people I work with are narcissistic greedy soulless drones of the Tier 1 type.

The biggest losers are the ugly, short, fat, bald, receded chins, weak jawlines, small dinks, barrow clavicles and mouth breathing type.

Note: losers have any of the above qualities.

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post 1622502431 11-13-2020, 09:06 AM
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post 1622503181 11-13-2020, 09:13 AM
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I know so many professionals that could easily make 6 figures but are either too lazy to do a bit of extra professional development in their free time, or are too comfortable in their current positions.

Losers come in all shapes and sizes, but mostly short, lanky, skinny or obese. You rarely see a 6ft+ jacked guy slaving away at entry level positions longer than a year.
post 1622503201 11-13-2020, 09:13 AM
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"Success" is mostly determined by external factor op, You're 27 by now you should know this.

- Socioeconomic background
- Cultural and sociopolitical makeshift of your environment
- Genetic makeup

All of those things are dealt to you the moment you're born and you can't do anything to change them. Where and to who you're born are the biggest factors determinig wheter you'll "succeed" or not. Mind you I'm talking about the western, capitalist definition of success. You're friend is right and you sound like a piece of chit friend for talking chit about his back to a bunch of stangers online. Do him a favor and cut him off so he can find better, non alienated friends like yourself.

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post 1622503991 11-13-2020, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
"Success" is mostly determined by external factor op, You're 27 by now you should know this.

- Socioeconomic background
- Cultural and sociopolitical makeshift of your environment
- Genetic makeup

All of those things are dealt to you the moment you're born and you can't do anything to change them. Where and to who you're born are the biggest factors determinig wheter you'll "succeed" or not. Mind you I'm talking about the western, capitalist definition of success. You're friend is right and you sound like a piece of chit friend for talking chit about his back to a bunch of stangers online. Do him a favor and cut him off so he can find better, non alienated friends like yourself.

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Not so sure I agree with everything in this post

He should cut me off because I'm more successful?

Why ?

Because I worked harder , I studied harder , I actually thought out some of the decisions I made ? I didn't get played like some sort of simp to the girls I dated ?

You don't account for anybody who was every born poor and then became rich etc.
post 1622504371 11-13-2020, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy⏩
Not so sure I agree with everything in this post

He should cut me off because I'm more successful?

Why ?

Because I worked harder , I studied harder , I actually thought out some of the decisions I made ? I didn't get played like some sort of simp to the girls I dated ?

You don't account for anybody who was every born poor and then became rich etc.
No you're a chit friend for trash talking him and making fun of him and his situation instead of helping him. Don't be so judgmental towards him and help him reach HIS life goals whatever those may be instead of judging him trough your world view. That's what real friends do.
post 1622504531 11-13-2020, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
No you're a chit friend for trash talking him and making fun of him and his situation instead of helping him. Don't be so judgmental towards him and help him reach HIS life goals whatever those may be instead of judging him trough your world view. That's what real friends do.
For starters this is anonymous. Do I post pictures of him or his name ? No

And secondly I try to help him all the time . But I just get the feeling of negativity stemming out of him , so for my own mental health I need to distance myself sometimes


Also he has done me WRONG plenty of times

Asking to borrow money etc showing signs of jealousy etc



Edit : I gave him advice all the time , about the girls who was playing him etc

He never fking listened to a word i was saying so eventually someone in my shoes just gives up


Obviously you never knew someone like this
post 1622504911 11-13-2020, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By shr3ddeda5fuark⏩
You sound like a bluepilled wagie cuck.

If you're retarded, you keep up your hope, keep struggling, and then you'll get to your old age bitter that you did all of that **** all for nothing. If you're smart, you check out of that ****ing game, and try to find something to distract yourself, because you don't want to feed that beast that is now exemplified by the OnlyFans economy.

If you aren't an 8/10 male it never began
Yeah because ppl go to work everday for nothing . The alternative of being a broke welfare goof is a much better idea ...NOT.
post 1622505051 11-13-2020, 09:35 AM
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all the white people here blame their issues on non-white people
There is only one Hell: the one we live in now.
post 1622505161 11-13-2020, 09:36 AM
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I had a friend like this.

he would blame others in my friend group for his problems and try to demean us.

I'm not friends with him any more
post 1622505341 11-13-2020, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By shr3ddeda5fuark⏩
whats your point?

both scenarios aren't getting prime no-strings-attached pussy, the only thing that really matters.
Dunno about you but I'd rather not share a room with some other welfare goof and live with a bunch of roaches etc
post 1622505451 11-13-2020, 09:39 AM
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OP can you get him an entry level job at your company? Sometimes people need that push
post 1622505641 11-13-2020, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Javdo9⏩
OP can you get him an entry level job at your company? Sometimes people need that push
He tried that at one point but failed the entry test ( which was pretty easy in all honesty )

Tried a few times to get on but where I work just wasn't interested in him I suppose
post 1622505741 11-13-2020, 09:42 AM
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if I were 6'2+, I guarantee my salary would be 20% higher, srs
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post 1622506011 11-13-2020, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Better
if I were 6'2+, I guarantee my salary would be 20% higher, srs
also have about 350 more pounded vags
Doubt it . You just need that confidence that you think being 6'2 would bring .
post 1622506341 11-13-2020, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By shr3ddeda5fuark⏩
so your point is "just work to not be homeless bro"?

can you not see how that is an extremely demotivating path? men are wired to crave women, if he identifies himself as a sub 8 male and can see the writing on the wall, why would he be motivated to "work" instead of rotting? the outcome is the same, living in a penthouse and eating calimari won't fill that void.

the cold hard truth is that external factors DO calculate your life and experience on this planet.

IQ
Height
Dick
Frame/bones

If someone is lacking in 2 or more of those, it's no surprise they decide to check out completely.
Well if you don't work and try you have 0 chance of obtaining that

When you try you may have a chance to become well off


Then you can drive a nice car around town etc and probably get girls easy


Duuh

You're over thinking
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy⏩
Doubt it . You just need that confidence that you think being 6'2 would bring .
confidence in manlets is seen as napoleon complex every time
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post 1622506551 11-13-2020, 09:49 AM
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I feel like a ton of places are still hiring for positions that dont require a bunch of education. You may have to lower your standards but honestly like, being unemployed for 3 years is solely his personal fault.

I have a friend sorta like that. But hes always working, just bouncing around. Very fickle which is why his life isn't 100% together. Doesnt really blame others though.
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Originally Posted By Better
confidence in manlets is seen as napoleon complex every time
How tall are you?
post 1622506631 11-13-2020, 09:50 AM
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Friend? Try parents
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Originally Posted By SSM12⏩
I feel like a ton of places are still hiring for positions that dont require a bunch of education. You may have to lower your standards but honestly like, being unemployed for 3 years is solely his personal fault.

I have a friend sorta like that. But hes always working, just bouncing around. Very fickle which is why his life isn't 100% together. Doesnt really blame others though.
Bro that's the problem with these people

They do not want to lower their standards

But fail to realize their standards are actually way above their actual potential in their circumstance
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy⏩
Bro that's the problem with these people

They do not want to lower their standards

But fail to realize their standards are actually way above their actual potential in their circumstance
Here is how I see it. I can be making NO money living at home OR I could be making 8/hr(probably more for minimum wage depending on state) and living at home, but actually be making some money that I can do things with. While I am doing that and potentially saving even, I can be still LOOKING for a better job.

Anytime I changed careers, I always did so while I was currently employed(save for withdrawing from my 2nd year of law school). Why be unemployed. I dont get it. I wouldnt even know how to look into the benefits let alone believe I should be getting them if its MY CHOICE to be unemployed, especially if I am living at home rent free and all of that.
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Originally Posted By blueberryboy⏩
How tall are you?
5'9

all of the C-level positions at my company and highest wagies are 6'1+

it's pretty comical once you are aware
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because it is all external factors. Your life and who you are are based off a bunch of factors you have no control over.
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"Loser" is a social construct. It´s an idea/belief. People chasing social status and money can also be considered losers. It´s a matter of perspective.

Cope hehe
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Originally Posted By roughinhouse⏩
because it is all external factors. Your life and who you are are based off a bunch of factors you have no control over.
basic black pill for normies. you grow up tall = you get constant boost to self-confidence from comparing yourself to others, people treating you with more respect, girls showing a lot of interest (so you developer better social and flirting skills just through sheer increased volume of interactions and experiences).

That's why contrary to blue pill BS, good looking people tend to be better people than ugly ones as well.
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Some people never get their stuff together.

I have an old 'friend' although I barely talk to him. Not a bad guy, but still lives at home, all sorts of issues, doesn't take care of himself, everything is somebody else's issue. I really have no idea what his issue is. I try and talk to him every year or so. I got to admit it is bizarre to me.
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Originally Posted By Better
5'9

all of the C-level positions at my company and highest wagies are 6'1+

it's pretty comical once you are aware
The both my direct supervisor and the CEO of my company are the same height as me. The director over my department is like 5'8" or so but considering how rare people 6'2" and over are (like 4% of males) that is one hell of a coincidence that 2 out of the 3 people over me are in that 4%
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