Stumbled across something the other day while reading about the anti ageing breakthrough thread. Vitamin C can knock down oxidation so much in the body that it screws up cell signaling/pathways. Some cells should not prosper and replicate because there is something wrong with their DNA. Oxidation puts these cells through the wringer and the ones that can't handle the oxidation apoptosis (suicide). Mega dosed vitamin C can come in and wipe out all the reactive oxygen species, so cells arent' stressed and ones that shouldn't replicate do (because the cell didn't get stressed, set off some internal signaling that tells the cell it is toast and to discontinue operations).

Here's the studyhttps://www.spandidos-publications.com/ijmm/22/5/651

And here's a more broad article by Adelfo Cerame about how there's an ideal amount of oxidation.

https://suppversity.blogspot.com/201...ve-oxygen.html


Its tough because you need a fair amount of vitamin C for various things like rebuilding connective tissue, but too much is bad. Most animals make their own vitamin C so they don't have this problem.

Cliffs?

Also vit c reduces elastin

Ran an expirement of taking 20g vit c a day for a week straight and my face def looked like it loss elastin, gone stop now

cliffs
- There is an ideal zone for oxidation. Taking too much vitamin c or any oxidant can get you out of this zone.
- Too little oxidation allows messed up cells to continue multiplying.

Did not know about elastin. Looks like it may be related to lung problems which I've recently run into.

Wondering if derma rolling on your scalp helps build elastin? I'm thinking it might be like accupuncture. Somehow stimulates the immune system or something.

brb derma rolling anyway

So what's the recommended daily dose chief

Makes sense.

How about we just eat good food and get outside and stay fit?

You think you're allowed outside now?

You only absorb a small portion of vitamin C you take unless it's lipo****l. I wouldn't be too worried about it.

The same goes for a potent antioxidant as curcumin. It's a mistake people make by taking in too many antioxidants, there are many studies that show it possibly has a detrimental effect to health.

All the more reason to cook my broccoli before I eat it

studies arent conclusive

All you got was expensive piss

Yeah, another study I read some years ago showed those who took antioxidant supplements had increased rates of cancer, like 20% or some chit.

"but antioxidants protects cells". Yeah, but it also likely protects cancer cells just as much



The more research I read the more I decided to go NC on all supplements

start smoking a pack a day to create more oxidative stress and free radicals jfl

I think I do not know of one single person who takes supplements and ends up better off than someone just optimizing the basics like exercise, diet, socializing, avoiding huge problems, etc.

Sounds like a green light to drink coke and Pepsi everyday. Dat dere acid good for you now