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post 1624667351 12-06-2020, 10:37 AM
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would brothels be a net positive for American society? (ded fkn Srs)

would society be better off if American men had access to many brothels for affordable sex? seems like a lot of young guys on here complain about lack of access to sex and the increasing power women have in the so-called 'sexual marketplace' as society emphasizes casual flings and women naturally have more control over sexual access.

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objection:brothels becoming common place would further degrade society

rebuttal:
- society is already sexually degenerate, cant get much worse

- young women are already ho'ing for FREE via tinder/bumble/hinge/IG with tons of partners and increasingly for pay thru sugar daddies, OnlyFans, Twitch etc.

- all brothels would do is open up access to sex for a wider variety of men and help them get a nut off so they dont have violent outbursts or flood misc with whiny sh*tposts

- might even boost GDP/productivity as less men 'opt out' out of frustration of lack of access

- the average quality of a relationship might actuallyincrease, since women will have to bring more than sex to the relationship and it's less likely the man is in the relationship for sexual access so women feel more secure too

- less simps as men realize sex isn't worth simping over

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post 1624667901 12-06-2020, 10:43 AM
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I would have to say no.

Prostitution is legal in Europe and Australia and it hasn't stopped inceldom from spreading.

Unfortunately, a lot of guys are slaves to their own ego and they think that paying for poon somehow makes them less of a man (and yet paying for OnlyFans is less ridiculous by their logic).

If guys just paid to bang a 9/10 a few times they'd soon realize that poon is good but it ain't worth obsessing over.....
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post 1624668011 12-06-2020, 10:45 AM
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It would be a positive for men and a negative for women.
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not a whoremaxxer in the least, but with the degenerate behaviour being outright pushed in society, i cant understand why it isnt legal.
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
I would have to say no.

Prostitution is legal in Europe and Australia and it hasn't stopped inceldom from spreading.

Unfortunately, a lot of guys are slaves to their own ego and they think that paying for poon somehow makes them less of a man (and yet paying for OnlyFans is less ridiculous by their logic).

If guys just paid to bang a 9/10 a few times they'd soon realize that poon is good but it ain't worth obsessing over.....
so basically the idea of men paying for sex would also have to be widely accepted by society right? like if most men didnt let women/simps shame them about paying for a nut, then it would be effective?
Originally Posted By AnotherAlt
It would be a positive for men and a negative for women.
but what about society on the whole? would it be a net positive for society?
post 1624668171 12-06-2020, 10:47 AM
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Your listed objection isn't the actual reason they are illegal except in a few places. The actual reason is that the majority of dudes don't want to pay. They want to nut. They don't give a damn what happens to you after or if you get to eat. 99% of them don't care if you live in danger or need help, even something as meager as a few dollars. They just want to nut. Most also want to be paid for it because most are cockwhores. Good ones exist I'm sure. Somewhere next to the end of the rainbow.
post 1624668431 12-06-2020, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By MegaSloot
Your listed objection isn't the actual reason they are illegal except in a few places. The actual reason is that the majority of dudes don't want to pay. They want to nut. They don't give a damn what happens to you after or if you get to eat. 99% of them don't care if you live in danger or need help, even something as meager as a few dollars. They just want to nut. Most also want to be paid for it because most are cockwhores. Good ones exist I'm sure. Somewhere next to the end of the rainbow.
i genuinely dont understand what point you're making. you are saying that most men wouldn't want to pay after nutting?

then they should be arrested for theft. like the brothel would be a legit business with security, etc. and the brothel could call the police if the guy refused to pay and the thief would be dealt with just like anyone else who steals/refuses to pay for services rendered.
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Originally Posted By MegaSloot
Your listed objection isn't the actual reason they are illegal except in a few places. The actual reason is that the majority of dudes don't want to pay. They want to nut. They don't give a damn what happens to you after or if you get to eat. 99% of them don't care if you live in danger or need help, even something as meager as a few dollars. They just want to nut. Most also want to be paid for it because most are cockwhores. Good ones exist I'm sure. Somewhere next to the end of the rainbow.
Yeah this is true too. Just look at p0rnhub for an example. There are millions of videos on that site of underage ppl getting r*ped. POrnhub doesnt care because they still get their ad dollars. Users don't care because they just want to nut. Free tube porn sites have an extremely dark underbelly.
post 1624668651 12-06-2020, 10:52 AM
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Prostitution should probably not be illegal dead srs. It's one of the oldest 'professions.' It's kind of ridiculous when you think that, if there's a camera involved and you're putting the video online - it's not prostitution. Just fkn lol at that. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

Maybe this would be a positive thing so American incels can bust all kinds of nuts. It's frustrating to be a male in your sexual prime and not be able to stick it into some sugar walls.
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post 1624668731 12-06-2020, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
so basically the idea of men paying for sex would also have to be widely accepted by society right? like if most men didnt let women/simps shame them about paying for a nut, then it would be effective?
The idea of paying for sex is already widely accepted in Europe and Aus and yet inceldom is reaching a tipping point in those countries.

In Japan, they have their own version of inceldom called "hikikomori" and yet prostitution has always been part of Japanese society.

The real source of the incel problem isn't a lack of sex, ultimately it comes down to fragile male ego and a man's need to have is ego validated through female affection.

Prostitution in the US is illegal, but if a man was truly motivated to get sex all he has to do is roll into a massage parlor or strip club and he'd get at least a handjob.

But the sad reality is that these dudes want sex but are either too lazy or too ego-burdened to get it done.
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post 1624668781 12-06-2020, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
i genuinely dont understand what point you're making. you are saying that most men wouldn't want to pay after nutting?

then they should be arrested for theft. like the brothel would be a legit business with security, etc. and the brothel could call the police if the guy refused to pay and the thief would be dealt with just like anyone else who steals/refuses to pay for services rendered.
Shes saying that alsong as they get to nut, most Johns won't care how they got it. Girl is underage? Don't care still nutted. She's trafficked from Indonesia and gets beaten daily? Don't care still nutted. She was a homeless drug addict kidnapped off the street? Don't care still nutted. Her pimp takes all the money she got and gives her 1/10 of it back? Don't care still nutted.

There's a lot of shady **** going on even in "legal" sex work.
post 1624669101 12-06-2020, 10:58 AM
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There's a massage parlor about a half mile down the street from my house. I could walk over there and get a blowj0b right now for $60 if I wanted. If a man is truly motivated to quench his thirst and rid himself of sexual frustration, he could get it done fairly easily.

These dude are just ego-fragile, insecure and desperate for female validation....
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post 1624669331 12-06-2020, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
There's a massage parlor about a half mile down the street from my house. I could walk over there and get a blowj0b right now for $60 if I wanted. If a man is truly motivated to quench his thirst and rid himself of sexual frustration, he could get it done fairly easily.

These dude are just ego-fragile, insecure and desperate for female validation....
There's also the fact that it tends to ruin a career if you get caught with a prostitute. Good luck getting hired as a doctor or a lawyer after you were arrested for soliciting prostitution.
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
- society is already sexually degenerate, cant get much worse


- the average quality of a relationship might actuallyincrease, since women will have to bring more than sex to the relationship and it's less likely the man is in the relationship for sexual access so women feel more secure too

- less simps as men realize sex isn't worth simping over
Yep!!!! (ded fkn Srs)
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It probably would change the market a little. More guys would do it, and women would find the idea more attractive. I think it would look like the mj shops. Pricier, not changing a whole lot except quality and some of the people who visit.

Probably healthier on the whole for society because like the drug laws, sin or not, the black market causes more danger than a regulated market
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rather have an escort come to my place
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Originally Posted By AnotherAlt
There's also the fact that it tends to ruin a career if you get caught with a prostitute. Good luck getting hired as a doctor or a lawyer after you were arrested for snooliciting prostitution.
Every man has to weigh the risk vs reward for himself...

I dont encourage anyone to do anything that makes them uncomfortable.
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I feel like there are a lot of degens that go to brothels. like gambling and drinking


You should study australia/europe for the arguments for and against it.
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Would be a lot safer for everyone involved and reduce the amount of gang/pimp violence, abuse of underage girls etc. if the industry is more monitored.

It would also bring in more tax dollars since it would be a taxable service


As op mentioned in original post, it would help people realize that sex is sex and a relationship needs to offer more than just sex otherwise why bother


Also potentially less rape cases if sex is easily accessible for the entire public


Less people imprisoned for providing a service that is needed in society
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
There's a massage parlor about a half mile down the street from my house. I could walk over there and get a blowj0b right now for $60 if I wanted. If a man is truly motivated to quench his thirst and rid himself of sexual frustration, he could get it done fairly easily.

These dude are just ego-fragile, insecure and desperate for female validation....
so what can we do to restore some more sanity and balance in the dating/sexual market?

only other thing i can think of is religion, but realistically that's not ever coming back as a strong enough force to influence marriage/dating/sex like it once was. and it's not something you can 'implement' like a law
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Originally Posted By Rajc
the only thing it would change is the pussy hyperinflation in the USA, i mean cmon $1000+ for an escort JFL
what can I get for 1000 in switzerland?(srs)
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
only other thing i can think of is religion, but ... it's not something you can 'implement' like a law
Saudi Arabia would like a word
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus
The idea of paying for sex is already widely accepted in Europe and Aus and yet inceldom is reaching a tipping point in those countries.

In Japan, they have their own version of inceldom called "hikikomori" and yet prostitution has always been part of Japanese society.

The real source of the incel problem isn't a lack of sex, ultimately it comes down to fragile male ego and a man's need to have is ego validated through female affection.

Prostitution in the US is illegal, but if a man was truly motivated to get sex all he has to do is roll into a massage parlor or strip club and he'd get at least a handjob.

But the sad reality is that these dudes want sex but are either too lazy or too ego-burdened to get it done.
agree.
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Shes saying that alsong as they get to nut, most Johns won't care how they got it. Girl is underage? Don't care still nutted. She's trafficked from Indonesia and gets beaten daily? Don't care still nutted. She was a homeless drug addict kidnapped off the street? Don't care still nutted. Her pimp takes all the money she got and gives her 1/10 of it back? Don't care still nutted.

There's a lot of shady **** going on even in "legal" sex work.
brothels? no.

sensual massage parlors (legally no PIV or PIB)? ok. just needs to meet health/safety regs.

prostitution?

not sure if it would be better, but probably not worse. seems important to me to:

- cut out the pimps/madames/traffickers
- keep up health and safety standards

would envision it as a licensed self-employment trade like a hair dresser or masseuse. licensed by the state, regular std checks, can work from their own place, do out calls, or shared/monitored building for safety where the sex worker would pay rent for their suite, but wouldn't pay a percentage of earnings.

hopefully people would shame customers that continue to visit illegal/unlicensed sex workers that may be underage or trafficked.
Originally Posted By nick5569
Would be a lot safer for everyone involved and reduce the amount of gang/pimp violence, abuse of underage girls etc. if the industry is more monitored.

It would also bring in more tax dollars since it would be a taxable service


As op mentioned in original post, it would help people realize that sex is sex and a relationship needs to offer more than just sex otherwise why bother


Also potentially less rape cases if sex is easily accessible for the entire public


Less people imprisoned for providing a service that is needed in society
rape is an act of violence and a violation of boundaries. men that want to rape someone aren't likely to be satisfied with consensual sex.
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Originally Posted By katya422
agree.



brothels? no.

sensual massage parlors (legally no PIV or PIB)? ok. just needs to meet health/safety regs.

prostitution?

not sure if it would be better, but probably not worse. seems important to me to:

- cut out the pimps/madames/traffickers
- keep up health and safety standards

would envision it as a licensed self-employment trade like a hair dresser or masseuse. licensed by the state, regular std checks, can work from their own place, do out calls, or shared/monitored building for safety where the sex worker would pay rent for their suite, but wouldn't pay a percentage of earnings.

hopefully people would shame customers that continue to visit illegal/unlicensed sex workers that may be underage or trafficked.
Sounds good in principle but in reality Johns will only care about 2 things:

1) Price

2) How hot the girl is

They will be shamed for visiting a prostitute either way so visiting an illegal one won't bring any more shame. And the illegal ones will be cheaper.

You see this already with sites like p0rnhub. Nobody gives a sh*t about the millions of videos of r*pe, abuse, revenge p0rn, underage girls on that site. P0rnhub doesn't care as long as long as they get their ad dollars. Visitors don't care, they just watch the free p0rn, bust a nut, X out, and go on with their day.
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Originally Posted By AnotherAlt
Saudi Arabia would like a word
i mean realistically in America, religion will not be a strong force to influence relationships and keep balance in the dating/sexual market like it once did (and definitely not strong enough to counter the internet)

i guess the realistic answer is that balance will probably never come back
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