Two recent videos about how wokeness is stifling the open discussion of new ideas.

In the first Bret and Heather have a conversation around the fact that they can't discuss certain topics on their podcast without risking being demonetized and losing their income:



It is particularly noxious because there isn't a clearly defined bright line provided to content makers around what is and isn't allowed. The platform operates from an algorithm which designates the accepted or most popular version of truth as being the correct one. This system operates in a black and white way which doesn't allow space for heterodoxy.

The second video is from Rebel Wisdom (lots of good content IMO) a podcast focused on the breakdown in sense making that we are struggling with. A big part of that is what seems to be a fairly recent inability for the general population to agree on the same set of facts; not the interpretation of what the facts mean, what the actual facts are.



The topic is a recent study which labeled all anti-woke content providers as far right. Or, IOW, if you are not supportive of post-modern Marxist identity politics and such then you are classified as far right. A couple of well known examples would be Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson, neither of whom identify as far right or even conservative and self-identify as classic or moderate liberals.

How is this breaking the West?

By shutting down, shutting out, and even demonizing heterodox thinkers who are usually the outliers and oddballs that come up with new ideas and new ways to solve problems.

The freedom to question the established dogma and an openness to the new and different are the qualities that have differentiated the West in recent decades. And now the institutions that are meant to nurture and develop our thinkers and creators are instead actively suffocating anything that strays from this cancerous meme of correctness which insists that no one should be offended, everyone should have equal success, and the facts be damned.

In on daily the west is dying thread

katya are you russian?

I've thought about that some, not so much on the content creators side but more around creative professionals and artists, both of whom used to fetishize transgression, which occasionally allows somebody from a working class background to break through; now they fetishize psychological safety and correct etiquette, so only somebody with a training in their norms can succeed. Wokeness provides an easy means of validation for lazy and mediocre intellects, so it's no surprise it's come to dominate these spaces.

And also, WTF at Marxist identity politics. I asked the other day how these two ideas became synonymous and compatible and crickets. I'm still confused by that.

Cribbed from Quora:https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Jorda...s-with-Marxism

Roughly that the dominant white male is the oppressor and everyone else is some kind of victim being kept down by the man.Peterson wrote about it. Here is a clip of Eric Weinsten on how the Democrats have substituted identity politics for actually helping the working class:

The worst part about 'wokeness' is that for most people it is a hobby and as such there is fierce competition to be the most woke.

This causes the goalposts to creep to the left as everyone tries to one up the current 'peak woke' status.

That is so freaking weird. Class consciousness is antithetical to idpol, so that all sounds like a long way of saying that Marxism has been bastardized by terminally online woke neckbeards. I'm not at all surprised by that, plenty of movements are hijacked by dummies, but it still baffles me.

But I thought leftists wanted a true free environment for creativity and not a disguised fascist society? hue hue hue

Imagine having to run a checklist of "dos and donts" for nearly any form of entertainment or activity?

A world full of censorship based on the whims and subjective interpretation of morons. Like TWITTER mods.

why do you ask dahlink?

You have to remember that where Marxism was first pushed (Soviet Union), classism WAS the identity politics of the time since more or less everyone was the same race. In America, race is clearly a huge (and effective) fault line that can be exploited. Religion is anorher way to divide society. I believe this was the tactic used by Marxists in what was once Yugoslavia.