By no means am I an expert on this, mostly because I´m not enlightened. However, I am in the phrase of human adulthood, as Jed Mckenna refers to it, at least I think I am. Human adulthood is a phase that comes before enlightenment/no self. To enter human adulthood one most shed a lot of the ego, and stop identifying with it.


Jed Mckenna reccommends Human adulthood for everyone and spiritual enlightenment for no one. In Spirititual enlightenment you completely remove the self so you have no sense of self anymore at all, and you live in non duallity all the time. Human adulthood is a milder form where some sense of self still remains. There is still delusion in this state, but to a lesser degree than the "normal person". Human adulthhod is waking up within the dream, where as enlightenment is waking up from the dream. I would guess that enlightenment is radically different from human adulthood and human adulthood is pretty different from the normal state that most people are in.


"Enlightenment is life negative, human adulthood is life positive" - Jed Mckenna


I don´t identify much with my personality anymore or as a person, but there is still some identification left. I haven´t completely removed the self yet, and I´ve been thinking about wether I want that or not. I have had glimpses of it though. I was walking in the forrest at night thinking about conscioussness when a white light hit me in the face, and I was like completely gone for a few seconds. Scary and interesting.

Human adulthood is something which I´m gowing into, and I like this "state" a lot. Everything looks more magical. I can take long walks and be amazed at how magical the world looks. Ego resides prior the perception, so when the attatchements to the ego vansish, so does the world. You create the world around you. I´m feeling more at peace now, and I´m not so caught up in my personality and stuff like that. Night time walks is now my favoirte activity, where as before I couldnt care less about it. I go with the flow more and see patterns better than before.

Most amazingly my appearance has changed as well. My eyes look brighter and more alive. I look younger thn before (ded srs). I see connor murphy made a video on this recently, and there is probably truth to it. I think Connor Murphy is in the human adulthood stage as well. I don´t think he is enlightened, and neither am I. HUman adulthood can bring a lot of joy, which can partly explain connor murphys facination with the world. There has been ups and downs on this journey so far. Depressing moments and happy moments full of freedom.

its all about having a dik that bends upwards

Entering human adulthood is like entering a new chapter in your life. A new beggining, a new life. The only question is, will I keep going further. I want to go all the way to enlightenment, even tho it might have more negative consequences than human adulthood. It´s pretty amazing that my visual perception of the world is like being on a low dose of acid or shrooms, except I´m sober.

If any questions ask away.

why do enligtenmentcells see the ego as a negative? is it because they cant handle the harsh realities of life so they turn against themselves?

It´s not really negative. It´s about stop living a life of delusion and lies. It´s about removing what can be removed and what is false. But it´s not really there, the ego doesn´t really exist, so you must destoy the parts of you that identify with it. It´s about finding out the truth of you and reality. Ego is not better than no ego, it just is different perspectives.


Im pretty sure this guy is fully enlightened. One of the few persons I get no ego feel from at all. He doesn´t reccommend enlightenment really either.

Spiritual enlightenment is just mental illness. It's the reason why the most mental sloots are usually very spiritual.

True mental enlightenment can't be reached without dmt

Most of them are not enlightened though. Vast majoirity of people claiming to be enlightened are not enlightened. There is definitely some mental illness in the spiritual community. But either one are awake or one are asleep. They think of them as spiritual maybe, but spiritual is not really defined. Enlightenemnt is about dying. It´s about destroying youself and humanity.yea right. That is a belief. One can transform sober

Well that's a relief.

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Haha maybe.


"Awarness is not something being aware of something" - Steven Norquist

Very interesting video. I used to read Castaneda too and did some lucid dreaming and meditation stuff like he describes.

Enlightenment in the form of Buddhist pantheism, like you are describing, is just another belief system that attempts to answer the question of ultimate reality with no proof to it other than an internal "feeling". If the ego you are referring to is the one with the feeling of oneness, then it isn't separate and it was the ego itself that allowed you to feel it. It would be like eating a hotdog and then claiming you can sense the hotdog is an illusion because of the way it smells, tastes and looks, as though you know what an illusionary hotdog is like firstly, and secondly how can you determine illusion using senses that are illusory?

Well. The point is that we cannot know what is real. The only thing we can truly know is that I/conscioussness exist. We can´t know if feelings, thoughts or objects we see are real. Conscioussness is existence, it´s the same thing. The content of conscioussness cannot proven to be true. There is no objective reality which is the point. But there is existence.

Now you have made the jump from Eastern enlighten to the Greek thought of the "mind in a box". Those two worldviews are incompatible. Unless you are saying that knowledge of being the "mind in a box" is your interpretation of enlightenment? You are going to need to be much more specific about it.

I have many questions bro

What is human adulthood like? Can you explain a bit just of what you personally experience visually or physically and how your thoughts run? And finally, what have you done to get there? What was your practices basically

I am in a weird stage rn where things are very transformative but I’m not feeling particularly great or blissed out, but my perception has DEFINITELY changed, I just can’t quite pinpoint how. Very uncomfortable if anything, I don’t relate as much as I used to to others but I want to

I would never want to reach full enlightenment. A good example of someone in present day who has gone all the way and documents everything is Frank Yang. Check out his insta and YouTube if you get the chance.

I can expand on it later. Drinking now

I'm so woke bro

you can't those are just temporary effect which don't last so.

i never claimed to be enlightened. im simply explorin the difference between human adulthood and enlightenment.

It´s nice. Feel more at ease and in the flow. Less thoughts, especially about myself. The world looks pretty different, especially when I´m outside. Everything seems closer, more bright and magical. Brighter colors, love looking at the lights at night. The world seems more empty though. Haunted experience of just existing. Just looking at cars outside of my home is cool. Light bouncing off the car. I´m just more in contact with the things around me. The things around me are more a part of me now. I´m not so disconnected from the things in my perception. I´m less in my head and more in the world. Less cluttered ego.

Ego resides prior to perception. So, by lessing it, the world around you will change. You are the creator of how you view the universe.
Other than that, I still have normal thoughts, but not as much as an overthinker as before. The most obvious change is the change in how the world looks. I don´t exist as much as a person/human being as I did before. I identify more with being conscioussness.


I have been meditating for many years, which has probably dragged me in this direction, but it´s not until I have been doing strong self inquiry, that things started moving faster. You gotta peel back layers and layers of your identity and prove why your identity is mostly bullchit. Questions like, am I human being on earth, needs to be asked. It can´t be proven. It´s all beliefs. Questions like, am I my thoughts and am I my body needs to be asked. And many more such questions. My personal favorite is asking myself what am I right now in this moment. What am I right now? You might say, "oh well I´m a human being living in blah blah blah", but that is just speculation and can´t be proven. When we think about what we are, we usually drift right away into speculation and belief. The past and future doesn´t exist, what am I right now in this moment? You gotta answer these questions, if there even are any answers to be found.


I have watched a little bit of frank yang, but not much. I took long walks almost every day, and I always come a little bit further on every walk. Pounding on what ever door I was stuck behind at the moment. I had realizations on all these long night walks. A good tecnique is writing down stuff as well. Write down a statement which you believe to be true, and then continue writing until you have proven or disproven that belief. Jed Mckenna calls this spiritual autolysis and it´s very effective. Meditation is great, but self inquiry is more bang for your buck IMO. It will transform you faster.

I´m not feeling blissed out or anything, just more at peace really.I´m feeling pretty regulary with some noticable differences though. I can walk for hours at night literally just exploring the world. But on one of my last walks, I started being more aware of space, and how I´m walking and walking, but not really moving. This is one of the doors I´m stuck behind now. I still have a way to go on this journey. I have went thorugh many ups and downs these last few months. Depression and joy. It´s a death-rebirth proccess, where you kinda gotta "die" to be born again. Your identity gotta die, thats the only way it works. I still have some what of an ego, but much less than before. But I gotta be cautious not to trick myself thinking I´m further along than I am. I haven´t woken up from the dream, I have just woken up within the dream. But who knows, maybe it´s all BS.