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ADD: Could it really be a sleep disorder?
I was already aware that many of the symptoms of ADD are the same as the symptoms of insufficient sleep.
Then just this week I learned about the strong co-morbidity of Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome with ADD:
So maybe a lot of people think that "everyone is a little ADD" because so few adults are getting consistent good quality sleep.
If sleep is a problem for you then you may want to check out Andrew Huberman's podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2D...OVWx7giW1n3LIg
Then just this week I learned about the strong co-morbidity of Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome with ADD:
Some scientists now believe that ADHD and DSPS are linked and believe that an estimated 73-78% of children and adults with ADHD also have DSPS.In recent years, scientists have begun investigating whether treating DSPS in people with comorbid ADHD and DSPS improves ADHD symptoms.
People with ADHD have difficulty focusing on tasks [i.e., inattention] and may act impulsively. They may behaviorally be disorganized, restless and virtually always in motion [i.e., hyperactive]. Symptoms of ADHD often begin in childhood and, in some people, continue into adulthood. Hyperactivity tends to improve by the teen years, whereas problems with inattention, disorganization and poor impulse control often continue into adulthood.
https://www.aastweb.org/blog/attenti...-may-be-linkedPeople with ADHD have difficulty focusing on tasks [i.e., inattention] and may act impulsively. They may behaviorally be disorganized, restless and virtually always in motion [i.e., hyperactive]. Symptoms of ADHD often begin in childhood and, in some people, continue into adulthood. Hyperactivity tends to improve by the teen years, whereas problems with inattention, disorganization and poor impulse control often continue into adulthood.
The four most common sleep disturbances associated with ADHD are:
1. Difficulty Falling Asleep with ADHD
About three-fourths of all adults with ADHD report inability to “shut off my mind so I can fall asleep at night.” Many describe themselves as “night owls” who get a burst of energy when the sun goes down. Others report that they feel tired throughout the day, but as soon as the head hits the pillow, the mind clicks on. Their thoughts jump or bounce from one worry to another. Unfortunately, many of these adults describe their thoughts as “racing,” prompting a misdiagnosis of a mood disorder, when this is nothing more than the mental restlessness of ADHD.
Prior to puberty, 10 to 15 percent of children with ADHD have trouble getting to sleep. This is twice the rate found in children and adolescents who do not have ADHD. This number dramatically increases with age: 50 percent of children with ADHD have difficulty falling asleep almost every night by age 12 ½ by age 30, more than 70 percent of adults with ADHD report that they spend more than one hour trying to fall asleep at night.
2. Restless Sleep with ADHD
When individuals with ADHD finally fall asleep, their sleep is restless. They toss and turn. They awaken at any noise in the house. They are so fitful that bed partners often choose to sleep in another bed. They often awake to find the bed torn apart and covers kicked onto the floor. Sleep is not refreshing and they awaken as tired as when they went to bed.
3. Difficulty Waking Up with ADHD
More than 80 percent of adults with ADHD in my practice report multiple awakenings until about 4 a.m. Then they fall into “the sleep of the dead,” from which they have extreme difficulty rousing themselves.
They sleep through two or three alarms, as well as the attempts of family members to get them out of bed. ADHD sleepers are commonly irritable, even combative, when roused before they are ready. Many of them say they are not fully alert until noon.
4. Intrusive Sleep with ADHD
Paul Wender, M.D., a 30-year veteran ADHD researcher, relates ADHD to interest-based performance. As long as persons with ADHD were interested in or challenged by what they were doing, they did not demonstrate symptoms of the disorder. [This phenomenon is called hyperfocus by some, and is often considered to be an ADHD pattern.] If, on the other hand, an individual with ADHD loses interest in an activity, his nervous system disengages, in search of something more interesting. Sometimes this disengagement is so abrupt as to induce sudden extreme drowsiness, even to the point of falling asleep.
https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-sle...nces-symptoms/1. Difficulty Falling Asleep with ADHD
About three-fourths of all adults with ADHD report inability to “shut off my mind so I can fall asleep at night.” Many describe themselves as “night owls” who get a burst of energy when the sun goes down. Others report that they feel tired throughout the day, but as soon as the head hits the pillow, the mind clicks on. Their thoughts jump or bounce from one worry to another. Unfortunately, many of these adults describe their thoughts as “racing,” prompting a misdiagnosis of a mood disorder, when this is nothing more than the mental restlessness of ADHD.
Prior to puberty, 10 to 15 percent of children with ADHD have trouble getting to sleep. This is twice the rate found in children and adolescents who do not have ADHD. This number dramatically increases with age: 50 percent of children with ADHD have difficulty falling asleep almost every night by age 12 ½ by age 30, more than 70 percent of adults with ADHD report that they spend more than one hour trying to fall asleep at night.
2. Restless Sleep with ADHD
When individuals with ADHD finally fall asleep, their sleep is restless. They toss and turn. They awaken at any noise in the house. They are so fitful that bed partners often choose to sleep in another bed. They often awake to find the bed torn apart and covers kicked onto the floor. Sleep is not refreshing and they awaken as tired as when they went to bed.
3. Difficulty Waking Up with ADHD
More than 80 percent of adults with ADHD in my practice report multiple awakenings until about 4 a.m. Then they fall into “the sleep of the dead,” from which they have extreme difficulty rousing themselves.
They sleep through two or three alarms, as well as the attempts of family members to get them out of bed. ADHD sleepers are commonly irritable, even combative, when roused before they are ready. Many of them say they are not fully alert until noon.
4. Intrusive Sleep with ADHD
Paul Wender, M.D., a 30-year veteran ADHD researcher, relates ADHD to interest-based performance. As long as persons with ADHD were interested in or challenged by what they were doing, they did not demonstrate symptoms of the disorder. [This phenomenon is called hyperfocus by some, and is often considered to be an ADHD pattern.] If, on the other hand, an individual with ADHD loses interest in an activity, his nervous system disengages, in search of something more interesting. Sometimes this disengagement is so abrupt as to induce sudden extreme drowsiness, even to the point of falling asleep.
So maybe a lot of people think that "everyone is a little ADD" because so few adults are getting consistent good quality sleep.
If sleep is a problem for you then you may want to check out Andrew Huberman's podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2D...OVWx7giW1n3LIg
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Have you tried not stimulating your brain 30m before you go to bed? No TV, no music, no 0hone, no conversation, no pillow, no mattress?
Pharma has admitted ADHD is bullchit in 90% of cases. They just added common problems everyone has to sell drugs.
Pharma has admitted ADHD is bullchit in 90% of cases. They just added common problems everyone has to sell drugs.
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Obviously poor sleep can affect concentration, but it generally leads to people being tired and less active, right? That would seem to be in contrast to what we think of as someone with ADD who has good energy levels. I’d be interested to know how they made their estimations, and how many people they’re basing it off of are on medication. That seems like a good starting point...and I would hope they don’t need a study to conclude “putting people on amphetamines seems to lower sleep quality”.
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yeah cause clearly no medical professional or psychiatrist has ever thought of this and looked into it, you fukkin retard
yeah you and a fukkin joe rogan guest were the ones to finally reveal the truth that professionals who spent their lives on this couldn't come to figure out
go ahead and pat yourself on the back
yeah you and a fukkin joe rogan guest were the ones to finally reveal the truth that professionals who spent their lives on this couldn't come to figure out
go ahead and pat yourself on the back
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ADHD is real i have it and it got worse by working a repetitive warehouse job and drinking caffeine
Internet now days doesn't help
It's 100% real
Internet now days doesn't help
It's 100% real
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It tends to be cyclical -- brain disorders like ADHD, anxiety, depression, etc., can interfere with sleep. And lack of proper sleep exacerbates just about everything. A lot of people self medicate with caffeine and while it can help in the short term, it just makes the sleeping issues worse of course. Wake up --> need caffeine --> can't sleep --> need caffeine. It never ends until you end the cycle.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Hey fellow ADDer. It's 100% real--been taking stimulants every day for years but it beats the alternative of how chaotic my life would look without em.I was already aware that many of the symptoms of ADD are the same as the symptoms of insufficient sleep.
Then just this week I learned about the strong co-morbidity of Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome with ADD:
https://www.aastweb.org/blog/attenti...-may-be-linked
https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-sle...nces-symptoms/
So maybe a lot of people think that "everyone is a little ADD" because so few adults are getting consistent good quality sleep.
If sleep is a problem for you then you may want to check out Andrew Huberman's podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2D...OVWx7giW1n3LIg
Then just this week I learned about the strong co-morbidity of Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome with ADD:
https://www.aastweb.org/blog/attenti...-may-be-linked
https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-sle...nces-symptoms/
So maybe a lot of people think that "everyone is a little ADD" because so few adults are getting consistent good quality sleep.
If sleep is a problem for you then you may want to check out Andrew Huberman's podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2D...OVWx7giW1n3LIg
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Most likely true, but that addy productivity is otherworldly.Pharma has admitted ADHD is bullchit in 90% of cases. They just added common problems everyone has to sell drugs.
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Not for me. And I have legit ADD. Not the over-diagnosed version they dish out like skittle nowadays. I can’t focus on a YouTube video or book for more than five minutes before shuffling around to the next one that pops in my head.
A few months ago I looked through my elementary school teacher’s notes to my parents about all the times I couldn’t focus in class for the life of me. Was kinda funny reading it all.
And I got perfect sleep every night.
A few months ago I looked through my elementary school teacher’s notes to my parents about all the times I couldn’t focus in class for the life of me. Was kinda funny reading it all.
And I got perfect sleep every night.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
It's definitely real, hate how overdiagnosed it isHave you tried not stimulating your brain 30m before you go to bed? No TV, no music, no 0hone, no conversation, no pillow, no mattress?
Pharma has admitted ADHD is bullchit in 90% of cases. They just added common problems everyone has to sell drugs.
Pharma has admitted ADHD is bullchit in 90% of cases. They just added common problems everyone has to sell drugs.
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Worse part about ADHD is you are always hyper and can't concentrate so it's hard to do anything social cuz you want to just keep moving until you tire yourself out somehow and get back in that relaxed state or you have to really try to pace yourself which is hard and feels unnatural. You either burn yourself out too quick or just can't concentrate on what people are saying half the time and people think you are a spaz.
I only know one other person who legit has it and he's on meds for it i don't take anything
I only know one other person who legit has it and he's on meds for it i don't take anything
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I think it is a Yes and No
I believe some natural ADD exists
I believe sleep issues do lead to ADD symptoms
I believe High sugar/high electronics lead to ADD symptoms
I believe compromised airways lead to sleep problems, bed wetting, night terrors, and then ADD symptoms.
I believe some natural ADD exists
I believe sleep issues do lead to ADD symptoms
I believe High sugar/high electronics lead to ADD symptoms
I believe compromised airways lead to sleep problems, bed wetting, night terrors, and then ADD symptoms.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Oh I try to keep up all the good sleep hygiene stuff. Cutting out blue light in the evening, halogen bulbs, no caffeine after 1 PM or so, etc. And I've had a sleep study done (move around a lot, breathing speeds up). My mom and my brother were also diagnosed with ADD.Have you tried not stimulating your brain 30m before you go to bed? No TV, no music, no 0hone, no conversation, no pillow, no mattress?
Pharma has admitted ADHD is bullchit in 90% of cases. They just added common problems everyone has to sell drugs.
Pharma has admitted ADHD is bullchit in 90% of cases. They just added common problems everyone has to sell drugs.
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Originally Posted By simonsaysgoham⏩
I think I have it srs. I watched a Ted talk and I related to every point. Had the same exerpeicnes etc, I'd never use it as a crutch though to justify failures, I still try to stay organisedIt's definitely real, hate how overdiagnosed it is
I realise its over diagnosed but I'd really be intrigued to find out whether I have it or not
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Uh, yeah, sure. Because I totally claimed that this is something that I "discovered" and should get credit for, rather than saying that I found some stuff out that was interesting.yeah cause clearly no medical professional or psychiatrist has ever thought of this and looked into it, you fukkin retard
yeah you and a fukkin joe rogan guest were the ones to finally reveal the truth that professionals who spent their lives on this couldn't come to figure out
go ahead and pat yourself on the back
yeah you and a fukkin joe rogan guest were the ones to finally reveal the truth that professionals who spent their lives on this couldn't come to figure out
go ahead and pat yourself on the back
Poor sleep can lead to ADHD-like symptoms and complicate a diagnosis.A few years ago, some researchers joined the “ADHD Is a Myth” crowd and declared all people with ADHD to be victims of chronic insomnia. That’s an overreach, but their findings did support the idea that quality of sleep must be considered in making an ADHD diagnosis.This is why you should start your teen’s diagnostic journey at the door of a qualified professional, and why you should study your child’s sleep patterns to answer the provider’s questions.
https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-sle...ems-solutions/Originally Posted By andrew28⏩
Happy for you if this is true. And maybe the sleep thing doesn't apply to you and better sleep wouldn't be beneficial. But if you have ADD then getting a sleep study to see what your sleep quality is like and if it could be improved might be worth a shot.Not for me. And I have legit ADD. Not the over-diagnosed version they dish out like skittle nowadays. I can’t focus on a YouTube video or book for more than five minutes before shuffling around to the next one that pops in my head.
A few months ago I looked through my elementary school teacher’s notes to my parents about all the times I couldn’t focus in class for the life of me. Was kinda funny reading it all.
And I got perfect sleep every night.
A few months ago I looked through my elementary school teacher’s notes to my parents about all the times I couldn’t focus in class for the life of me. Was kinda funny reading it all.
And I got perfect sleep every night.
My brother was diagnosed when we were young because he was the classic hyperactive boy. I wasn't dxed until college- hours long testing process.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Took a quick poke around to see if there was anything interesting in the past year.Obviously poor sleep can affect concentration, but it generally leads to people being tired and less active, right? That would seem to be in contrast to what we think of as someone with ADD who has good energy levels. I’d be interested to know how they made their estimations, and how many people they’re basing it off of are on medication. That seems like a good starting point...and I would hope they don’t need a study to conclude “putting people on amphetamines seems to lower sleep quality”.
This study looked at shared genetics between ADD & sleep patterns:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...0193813v2.full
Conclusion Our findings suggest that the comorbidity between sleep phenotypes and ADHD may be mediated by common genetic factors with an important role on neuronal signaling pathways. In addition, it may also exist a causal effect of sleep disturbances and short sleep duration on ADHD, reinforcing the role of these sleep phenotypes as predictors or early markers of ADHD.
This one was actually published before the date of the above pre-print and looked specifically at ADHD and narcolepsy:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-020-00971-7
Attention deficit hyperactive disorder (ADHD) is a highly heritable neurodevelopmental disorder, and excessive daytime sleepiness is frequently observed in ADHD patients. Excessive daytime sleepiness is also a core symptom of narcolepsy and essential hypersomnia (EHS), which are also heritable conditions. Psychostimulants are effective for the symptomatic control of ADHD (primary recommended intervention) and the two sleep disorders (frequent off-label use). However, the common biological mechanism for these disorders has not been well understood. Using a previously collected genome-wide association study of narcolepsy and EHS, we calculated polygenic risk scores (PRS) for each individual. We investigated a possible genetic association between ADHD and narcolepsy traits in the Hamamatsu Birth Cohort for mothers and children (HBC study) (n = 876). Gene-set enrichment analyses were used to identify common pathways underlying these disorders. Narcolepsy PRS were significantly associated with ADHD traits both in the hyperactivity domain (e.g., P-value threshold < 0.05, β [SE], 5.815 [1.774]; P = 0.002) and inattention domain (e.g., P-value threshold < 0.05, β [SE], 5.734 [1.761]; P = 0.004). However, EHS PRS was not significantly associated with either domain of ADHD traits. Gene-set enrichment analyses revealed that pathways related to dopaminergic signaling, immune systems, iron metabolism, and glial cell function involved in both ADHD and narcolepsy. Findings indicate that ADHD and narcolepsy are genetically related, and there are possible common underlying biological mechanisms for this relationship. Future studies replicating these findings would be warranted to elucidate the genetic vulnerability for daytime sleepiness in individuals with ADHD.
Found a different article about other conditions that often co-occur with ADHD, one of which was migraines.Check. I get them. Usually around my cycle and as I've gotten older there is less pain; I get most of the other symptoms though.
ETA:Another find I'm adding because if you are a parent of a child with attention problems you may want to pursue ruling out some other things and it would be satisfying if the different types of ADHD presentation actually lined up with different EEG profiles:
Children and adolescents with ADHD demonstrate EEG abnormalities—reflected in increased theta band activity—which could represent sleepiness through a cortical “slowing.” Furthermore, it has been suggested that heterogeneity in EEG results may point to ADHD subpopulations. While multiple investigators have identified ADHD clinical profiles in this way, there’s no consensus on the existence of distinct EEG subgroups.
In children with aberrant sleeping patterns, the authors of the recent review, Bioulac and colleagues, advise that a comprehensive medical history be conducted, as ADHD encompasses a wide range of clinical manifestations that present differently in children than in adults.Although physical examinations in children with EDS are often unremarkable, they can expose and rule out other issues, such as sleep-disordered breathing, circadian disorder, or narcolepsy, for example.The authors also advise taking the impact of caffeine or other stimulants, including prescription stimulants, into consideration.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/resourc...eal-thing/2944In children with aberrant sleeping patterns, the authors of the recent review, Bioulac and colleagues, advise that a comprehensive medical history be conducted, as ADHD encompasses a wide range of clinical manifestations that present differently in children than in adults.Although physical examinations in children with EDS are often unremarkable, they can expose and rule out other issues, such as sleep-disordered breathing, circadian disorder, or narcolepsy, for example.The authors also advise taking the impact of caffeine or other stimulants, including prescription stimulants, into consideration.
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The more you increase the excess weigh you carry the worst your sleep gets and the more often you will be taken out of your deep sleep.
Fatty tissue accumulate inside the neck that will constrict the air flow and on your abdomen where it creates pressure on your diaphragm which adds resistance to you breathing process.
If youre a male it is imperial that you lose all excess weight, theres no excuse, any functioning male should have visible abs. Your cognitive abilities will far exceed those than the same (YOU) would have if you were 20 pounds heavier
Fatty tissue accumulate inside the neck that will constrict the air flow and on your abdomen where it creates pressure on your diaphragm which adds resistance to you breathing process.
If youre a male it is imperial that you lose all excess weight, theres no excuse, any functioning male should have visible abs. Your cognitive abilities will far exceed those than the same (YOU) would have if you were 20 pounds heavier
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Originally Posted By WelfareBrah⏩
Judging by your username and misspellings I'd say you have it. On a srs note, go make a psych apptI think I have it srs. I watched a Ted talk and I related to every point. Had the same exerpeicnes etc, I'd never use it as a crutch though to justify failures, I still try to stay organised
I realise its over diagnosed but I'd really be intrigued to find out whether I have it or not
I realise its over diagnosed but I'd really be intrigued to find out whether I have it or not
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Id bet the dopamine rush from vidrogames and light from phone and electronics is a HUUUUGE part.
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy⏩
Sounds like you don't have it or if you do, a very mild case. Those things you mentioned most definitely exacerbate ADD symptoms but are not the core problem. It's all neurological differences. Like with dyslexia (I don't have it) you can improve your reading skills but that brain wiring will always be there. Meds & exercise have helped me most.I think it is a Yes and No
I believe some natural ADD exists
I believe sleep issues do lead to ADD symptoms
I believe High sugar/high electronics lead to ADD symptoms
I believe compromised airways lead to sleep problems, bed wetting, night terrors, and then ADD symptoms.
I believe some natural ADD exists
I believe sleep issues do lead to ADD symptoms
I believe High sugar/high electronics lead to ADD symptoms
I believe compromised airways lead to sleep problems, bed wetting, night terrors, and then ADD symptoms.
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Originally Posted By simonsaysgoham⏩
I was diagnosed in high school. Meds on and off, but they made me feel sick and lost weight. Managed myself as an adult.Sounds like you don't have it or if you do, a very mild case. Those things you mentioned most definitely exacerbate ADD symptoms but are not the core problem. It's all neurological differences. Like with dyslexia (I don't have it) you can improve your reading skills but that brain wiring will always be there. Meds & exercise have helped me most.
I argue that those other things can be the core problem, and are often confused with actual ADD. That's why I chose the words I did. I believe it is over-diagnosed because Docs don't want to get into parenting problems. Look at France, they are doing it right. The require you to fix the diet, sleep hygiene, electronics, and discipline issues before they prescribe meds.
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Originally Posted By simonsaysgoham⏩
I dont trust them, they'll just try make money out of me making me buy tons of ****. I've tried countless tests and watched many videos and I always have the tell tale signs.Judging by your username and misspellings I'd say you have it. On a srs note, go make a psych appt
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fairly confident i'm ADD as my sibling is. I was never diagnosed but i definitely have just learned to cope through the symptoms of it versus going to a medical professional for medication, because it is definitely not severe enough to warrant taking meth everyday, but when I have taken Addy, it shuts me down and makes me extremely quiet and weird feeling, which is apparently how it works with actual ADD patients as opposed to kids who take it to party/study etc.
the biggest red flags to me is my natural state of being is to multitask everything, i sit at my desk for work and at any given point i am all over the over place, taking care of multiple things at once, if someone messages me for something it derails everything i was doing, but then, every so often i'll hyperfixate on stuff and it is all i can think about until the problem is solved and work completed. I read that hyperfocus is the not-so-often-talked about side of ADD and it plagues me all the time, except if you channel that into something productive it can be marvelous as well.
I think this is also why i grew up addicted to grindy video games and really enjoy games that force you to plan for the future and set lofty goals, because it triggers that hyperfocus that satisfies an otherwise pretty chaotic mind.
the biggest red flags to me is my natural state of being is to multitask everything, i sit at my desk for work and at any given point i am all over the over place, taking care of multiple things at once, if someone messages me for something it derails everything i was doing, but then, every so often i'll hyperfixate on stuff and it is all i can think about until the problem is solved and work completed. I read that hyperfocus is the not-so-often-talked about side of ADD and it plagues me all the time, except if you channel that into something productive it can be marvelous as well.
I think this is also why i grew up addicted to grindy video games and really enjoy games that force you to plan for the future and set lofty goals, because it triggers that hyperfocus that satisfies an otherwise pretty chaotic mind.
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I didn't start on meds until I was over 40. Seems it isn't uncommon for people to struggle more with it as they age and particularly for women hormonal things like pregnancy and menopause can increase difficulties.I was diagnosed in high school. Meds on and off, but they made me feel sick and lost weight. Managed myself as an adult.
I argue that those other things can be the core problem, and are often confused with actual ADD. That's why I chose the words I did. I believe it is over-diagnosed because Docs don't want to get into parenting problems. Look at France, they are doing it right. The require you to fix the diet, sleep hygiene, electronics, and discipline issues before they prescribe meds.
I argue that those other things can be the core problem, and are often confused with actual ADD. That's why I chose the words I did. I believe it is over-diagnosed because Docs don't want to get into parenting problems. Look at France, they are doing it right. The require you to fix the diet, sleep hygiene, electronics, and discipline issues before they prescribe meds.
For anyone who thinks they might have it:
https://www.additudemag.com/
There are some big online support groups too.
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Originally Posted By LFAesthetics⏩
fuark man,, feelsfairly confident i'm ADD as my sibling is. I was never diagnosed but i definitely have just learned to cope through the symptoms of it versus going to a medical professional for medication, because it is definitely not severe enough to warrant taking meth everyday, but when I have taken Addy, it shuts me down and makes me extremely quiet and weird feeling, which is apparently how it works with actual ADD patients as opposed to kids who take it to party/study etc.
the biggest red flags to me is my natural state of being is to multitask everything, i sit at my desk for work and at any given point i am all over the over place, taking care of multiple things at once, if someone messages me for something it derails everything i was doing, but then, every so often i'll hyperfixate on stuff and it is all i can think about until the problem is solved and work completed. I read that hyperfocus is the not-so-often-talked about side of ADD and it plagues me all the time, except if you channel that into something productive it can be marvelous as well.
I think this is also why i grew up addicted to grindy video games and really enjoy games that force you to plan for the future and set lofty goals, because it triggers that hyperfocus that satisfies an otherwise pretty chaotic mind.
the biggest red flags to me is my natural state of being is to multitask everything, i sit at my desk for work and at any given point i am all over the over place, taking care of multiple things at once, if someone messages me for something it derails everything i was doing, but then, every so often i'll hyperfixate on stuff and it is all i can think about until the problem is solved and work completed. I read that hyperfocus is the not-so-often-talked about side of ADD and it plagues me all the time, except if you channel that into something productive it can be marvelous as well.
I think this is also why i grew up addicted to grindy video games and really enjoy games that force you to plan for the future and set lofty goals, because it triggers that hyperfocus that satisfies an otherwise pretty chaotic mind.
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