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Across the world women less mentally stable, especially in "gender equal" nations
Method: We analysed 2018 data from 566,827 adolescents across 73 countries for 4 mental health outcomes: psychological distress, life satisfaction, eudaemonia, and hedonia. We examine average gender differences and distributions for each of these outcomes as well as country-level associations between each outcome and purported determinants at the country level: wealth (GDP per capita), inequality (Gini index), and societal indicators of gender inequality (GII, GGGI, and GSNI).
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1) The gender gap in mental health in adolescence is largely ubiquitous cross-culturally, with girls having worse average mental health;
2) There is considerable cross-national heterogeneity in the size of the gender gap, with the direction reversed in a minority of countries;
3) Higher GDP per capita is associated with worse average mental health and a larger gender gap across all mental health outcomes; and
4) more gender equal countries have larger gender gaps across all mental health outcomes.
"Girls have worse average mental health than boys across 4 measures of mental health."
"Some regional patterns emerge; wealthier European nations consistently have worse average mental health for girls across all outcomes apart from hedonia; the Eastern Mediterranean countries consistently have some of the smallest gender gaps, and for hedonia and eudaemonia have better average outcomes for girls. Particular countries consistently have some of the largest gender gaps in mental health, including Sweden, Finland, Slovenia and South Korea."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...52827321000173
Results:
1) The gender gap in mental health in adolescence is largely ubiquitous cross-culturally, with girls having worse average mental health;
2) There is considerable cross-national heterogeneity in the size of the gender gap, with the direction reversed in a minority of countries;
3) Higher GDP per capita is associated with worse average mental health and a larger gender gap across all mental health outcomes; and
4) more gender equal countries have larger gender gaps across all mental health outcomes.
"Girls have worse average mental health than boys across 4 measures of mental health."
"Some regional patterns emerge; wealthier European nations consistently have worse average mental health for girls across all outcomes apart from hedonia; the Eastern Mediterranean countries consistently have some of the smallest gender gaps, and for hedonia and eudaemonia have better average outcomes for girls. Particular countries consistently have some of the largest gender gaps in mental health, including Sweden, Finland, Slovenia and South Korea."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...52827321000173
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Based on my completely non-scientific observations it looks like men are simply lagging, and overall are trending in the same direction as women. Men have an advantage because we’ve always been the ones to be more likely to be in unfavorable situations, whether it be a hunt, war, dangerous work, etc. and have just learned to suck it up better. However, the quality of having mental fortitude is quickly being removed from males, so both men and women are in a pretty bad boat from an overall perspective. I also think another factor in the outcome of those studies is that women are more likely to ask for help and signal distress because it’s rewarding for them. Humans are programmed to rush in and assist a woman in need, but that’s much less the case with a man in need.
Edit to add - didn’t know they were only looking at adolescents. While what I said above still holds true, I think the social media effect can’t be understated. This is especially applicable to adolescents, but applies to adults as well.
Edit to add - didn’t know they were only looking at adolescents. While what I said above still holds true, I think the social media effect can’t be understated. This is especially applicable to adolescents, but applies to adults as well.
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Who'd have thought getting sold a lie about working chitty jobs your whole life being fulfilling would lead to mental issues.
LMAO, since they entered the workplace, wages have gone to chit and now two people need to do double the work to run a household. No time for a decent relationship or family either. Plus work is fking chit and the only reason men did it was so their family benefitted, it's not aspirational and if we could sit at home and do fine we'd pick that instead.
If I got done that fking hard I'd probably go to chit too.
LMAO, since they entered the workplace, wages have gone to chit and now two people need to do double the work to run a household. No time for a decent relationship or family either. Plus work is fking chit and the only reason men did it was so their family benefitted, it's not aspirational and if we could sit at home and do fine we'd pick that instead.
If I got done that fking hard I'd probably go to chit too.
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Suicide rates rising faster among women than men
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...=1603537006722
Especially for older women.
Their glow eventually disappears and they finally get treated as men but they can't handle it.
Women are also getting unhappier with life:
https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969
The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness
By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate thatwomen's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men.
Men are happier in life than women
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ppearance.html
Women also taking more SSRI's than ever to cope with life
Women are twice as likely to use antidepressants compared to men
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...sants-men.html
But muh feminism and liberalism was supposed to make women happier?!!!!!!
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Where the female misc crew at?
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...=1603537006722
Especially for older women.
Their glow eventually disappears and they finally get treated as men but they can't handle it.
Women are also getting unhappier with life:
https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969
The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness
By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate thatwomen's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men.
Men are happier in life than women
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ppearance.html
Women also taking more SSRI's than ever to cope with life
Women are twice as likely to use antidepressants compared to men
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...sants-men.html
But muh feminism and liberalism was supposed to make women happier?!!!!!!
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03-19-2021, 04:35 AM
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We truly are in the Winter Phase of our civilization. Ancient Rome rose and fell. Ancient Greece rose and fell. Ancient Egypt rose and fell.... all other civilizations I can’t name. They ALL rose and fell. Why would we be any different? The only reason we’ve had such luck is that we are currently running on momentum from the inventions of the industrial revolution. We used to have so many geniuses/eminent men who produced such gifts for us. Our society no longer treasures men like that. You may say: But Steve Jobs! Elon!...... but the rate at which we have creating inventions is slowing big time.
In 1860 there were 16 macro-innovations per capita per billion of people every year. Today.... it’s 4.... why is that? Why are we inventing 25% of what we once were?
TLDR: we are becoming less intelligent(g). Yes “IQ” scores may be rising but the underlying, heritable factor of IQ, which is general intelligence(g) is FALLING.
In 1860 there were 16 macro-innovations per capita per billion of people every year. Today.... it’s 4.... why is that? Why are we inventing 25% of what we once were?
TLDR: we are becoming less intelligent(g). Yes “IQ” scores may be rising but the underlying, heritable factor of IQ, which is general intelligence(g) is FALLING.
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Originally Posted By Squidbrah⏩
TBF, inventing chit is a lot harder now. You could build a fking lingtbulb in your shed. Good luck developing a fusion reactor in there dickhead.In 1860 there were 16 macro-innovations per capita per billion of people every year. Today.... it’s 4.... why is that? Why are we inventing 25% of what we once were?
TLDR: we are becoming less intelligent(g). Yes “IQ” scores may be rising but the underlying, heritable factor of IQ, which is general intelligence(g) is FALLING.
TLDR: we are becoming less intelligent(g). Yes “IQ” scores may be rising but the underlying, heritable factor of IQ, which is general intelligence(g) is FALLING.
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Originally Posted By Squidbrah⏩
We truly are in the Winter Phase of our civilization. Ancient Rome rose and fell. Ancient Greece rose and fell. Ancient Egypt rose and fell.... all other civilizations I can’t name. They ALL rose and fell. Why would we be any different? The only reason we’ve had such luck is that we are currently running on momentum from the inventions of the industrial revolution. We used to have so many geniuses/eminent men who produced such gifts for us. Our society no longer treasures men like that. You may say: But Steve Jobs! Elon!...... but the rate at which we have creating inventions is slowing big time.
In 1860 there were 16 macro-innovations per capita per billion of people every year. Today.... it’s 4.... why is that? Why are we inventing 25% of what we once were?
TLDR: we are becoming less intelligent(g). Yes “IQ” scores may be rising but the underlying, heritable factor of IQ, which is general intelligence(g) is FALLING.
In 1860 there were 16 macro-innovations per capita per billion of people every year. Today.... it’s 4.... why is that? Why are we inventing 25% of what we once were?
TLDR: we are becoming less intelligent(g). Yes “IQ” scores may be rising but the underlying, heritable factor of IQ, which is general intelligence(g) is FALLING.
We are certainly in the age of decadence, and I think we will actually be the first generation to see this age grip most of the world at one time. Whereas before it was somewhat confined, we now see all of western civilization all over the globe decay through the age of decadence together. Meanwhile China seems to be rising and implementing lots of policies indicative of a blossoming empire. They still have tons of issues though, and I’m not sure exactly what stage of their lifecycle they are in.
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
Strong argumentation as expected from a low IQ gypsy e-whoretldr
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
LMAO, at least her people will continue on as normal... Stealing lead off collapsing rooves and begging outside the ruins of the Vatican.Strong argumentation as expected from a low IQ gypsy e-whore
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
I'm guess I'm just curious, what would you like me to be doing instead? The last time I asked this question, misc told me I should be living off government/welfare benefits, which actually does seem like a recipe for depression and really odd from deeply conservative, personal responsibility misc. For context, I was married and now I'm a widow. Not saying that for sympathy, just so you have a sense of why they might tell me to not work and be a welfare queen.Where the female misc crew at?
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
Some women should work if it suits them. The issue is it's pushed for every woman and traditional roles are frowned upon.I'm guess I'm just curious, what would you like me to be doing instead? The last time I asked this question, misc told me I should be living off government/welfare benefits, which actually does seem like a recipe for depression and really odd from deeply conservative, personal responsibility misc. For context, I was married and now I'm a widow. Not saying that for sympathy, just so you have a sense of why they might tell me to not work and be a welfare queen.
If you weren't widowed, your husband made enough to support both of you and asked you to manage the household instead of grinding away for $20 or some chit, a good chunk of which would go to tax/childcare/expenses like cars etc. anyway would you be depressed then?
I know women who spend pretty much everything they make on childcare so they can have a job as well as their guy. It's fukking moronic.
Totally fine supporting my wife, as long as I'm fed, the house is clean etc. she's got plenty of time to pursue her hobbies, we're both happy. More people could have that if feminism stopped lying to women and pretending a "career" is somehow more of an achievement than a happy, functional, family.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
We are certainly in the age of decadence, and I think we will actually be the first generation to see this age grip most of the world at one time. Whereas before it was somewhat confined, we now see all of western civilization all over the globe decay through the age of decadence together. Meanwhile China seems to be rising and implementing lots of policies indicative of a blossoming empire. They still have tons of issues though, and I’m not sure exactly what stage of their lifecycle they are in.
Fall of Rome analogies are bad. I don't mean bad for us. I mean chronically bad.We are certainly in the age of decadence, and I think we will actually be the first generation to see this age grip most of the world at one time. Whereas before it was somewhat confined, we now see all of western civilization all over the globe decay through the age of decadence together. Meanwhile China seems to be rising and implementing lots of policies indicative of a blossoming empire. They still have tons of issues though, and I’m not sure exactly what stage of their lifecycle they are in.
The "fall of Rome" literally took 350 years or 1300 years depending on what you consider to be the last Rome (the city itself or Constantinople). To the people who lived through Rome's collapse they wouldn't had known it was collapsing.
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Originally Posted By AverageKenneth⏩
I did the full time homemaker thing for a while and was depressed, yeah. It's absolutely not for me, although I think by now I've managed to find a good blend of supporting myself doing something I enjoy and domestic pursuits. That's an interesting point though, I don't think traditional roles are frowned upon at all and I sure do love some feminist circles. I think it's more about having a choice, and I also think all women should have some sort of backup. That was ingrained in me from the most conservative and traditional evangelical churches, so I think that's a pretty normal, traditional and wise idea. Definitely grateful I did.Some women should work if it suits them. The issue is it's pushed for every woman and traditional roles are frowned upon.
If you weren't widowed, your husband made enough to support both of you and asked you to manage the household instead of grinding away for $20 or some chit, a good chunk of which would go to tax/childcare/expenses like cars etc. anyway would you be depressed then?
I know women who spend pretty much everything they make on childcare so they can have a job as well as their guy. It's fukking moronic.
Totally fine supporting my wife, as long as I'm fed, the house is clean etc. she's got plenty of time to pursue her hobbies, we're both happy. More people could have that if feminism stopped lying to women and pretending a "career" is somehow more of an achievement than a happy, functional, family.
If you weren't widowed, your husband made enough to support both of you and asked you to manage the household instead of grinding away for $20 or some chit, a good chunk of which would go to tax/childcare/expenses like cars etc. anyway would you be depressed then?
I know women who spend pretty much everything they make on childcare so they can have a job as well as their guy. It's fukking moronic.
Totally fine supporting my wife, as long as I'm fed, the house is clean etc. she's got plenty of time to pursue her hobbies, we're both happy. More people could have that if feminism stopped lying to women and pretending a "career" is somehow more of an achievement than a happy, functional, family.
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
TBF, between a straight 50% of all assets, child support and alimony payments, divorce is a pretty solid fking backup.I did the full time homemaker thing for a while and was depressed, yeah. It's absolutely not for me, although I think by now I've managed to find a good blend of supporting myself doing something I enjoy and domestic pursuits. That's an interesting point though, I don't think traditional roles are frowned upon at all and I sure do love some feminist circles. I think it's more about having a choice, and I also think all women should have some sort of backup. That was ingrained in me from the most conservative and traditional evangelical churches, so I think that's a pretty normal and wise idea. Definitely grateful I did.
Hobbies and part time jobs may have helped you in that case too. Dunno, everyone's different.
But from talking to women, it seems like there's a pressure to achieve things in career terms. There are definitely women that see traditional housewife roles as demeaning or insulting too, we might just move in different circles. There's an obvious effort to dismantle traditional nuclear families as well, which I'd argue has had a collective impact on everyone's mental health. The family is the ideal unit, every one of my relatives would die for me, as I would them. The state that some kunts are trying to replace that with on the other hand will happily kill or imprison me if I fuk up a tax form, sweet.
I don't think households are meant to have two people working, definitely not two working full time. Housekeeping and childcare is a fulltime gig as it is. There's honour in it, I respect my wife and mother a lot more than any of the "successful" people I associate with.
Moving back towards traditional roles and support systems (family again) where possible would have a positive effect on mental health. Those leaving the workforce would drive up wages causing mental health benefits for the remaining workers too.
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Originally Posted By AverageKenneth⏩
And inventing was easier back in the 19th century? Are you implying that early inventions were low-hanging fruit?TBF, inventing chit is a lot harder now. You could build a fking lingtbulb in your shed. Good luck developing a fusion reactor in there dickhead.
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****inator brah where do u find these things?
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Originally Posted By Squidbrah⏩
Yes.And inventing was easier back in the 19th century? Are you implying that early inventions were low-hanging fruit?
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Originally Posted By AverageKenneth⏩
LOL I like you Kenneth but we're living in one of the greatest periods in history. I don't know what is up with the hyperbolic misc statements lately - if hell is the ability to design my future in an aggressively capitalist country where I'm able to provide a comfortable and secure life for myself then wtf I love hell now. I totally agree with you though that homemaking and raising children are noble pursuits.TBF, between a straight 50% of all assets, child support and alimony payments, divorce is a pretty solid fking backup.
Hobbies and part time jobs may have helped you in that case too. Dunno, everyone's different.
But from talking to women, it seems like there's a pressure to achieve things in career terms. There are definitely women that see traditional housewife roles as demeaning or insulting too, we might just move in different circles. There's an obvious effort to dismantle traditional nuclear families as well, which I'd argue has had a collective impact on everyone's mental health. The family is the ideal unit, every one of my relatives would die for me, as I would them. The state that some kunts are trying to replace that with on the other hand will happily kill or imprison me if I fuk up a tax form, sweet.
I don't think households are meant to have two people working, definitely not two working full time. Housekeeping and childcare is a fulltime gig as it is. There's honour in it, I respect my wife and mother a lot more than any of the "successful" people I associate with.
Moving back towards traditional roles and support systems (family again) where possible would have a positive effect on mental health. Those leaving the workforce would drive up wages causing mental health benefits for the remaining workers too.
Post war politics fukked us and now we live in hell.
Hobbies and part time jobs may have helped you in that case too. Dunno, everyone's different.
But from talking to women, it seems like there's a pressure to achieve things in career terms. There are definitely women that see traditional housewife roles as demeaning or insulting too, we might just move in different circles. There's an obvious effort to dismantle traditional nuclear families as well, which I'd argue has had a collective impact on everyone's mental health. The family is the ideal unit, every one of my relatives would die for me, as I would them. The state that some kunts are trying to replace that with on the other hand will happily kill or imprison me if I fuk up a tax form, sweet.
I don't think households are meant to have two people working, definitely not two working full time. Housekeeping and childcare is a fulltime gig as it is. There's honour in it, I respect my wife and mother a lot more than any of the "successful" people I associate with.
Moving back towards traditional roles and support systems (family again) where possible would have a positive effect on mental health. Those leaving the workforce would drive up wages causing mental health benefits for the remaining workers too.
Post war politics fukked us and now we live in hell.
I wonder if people feel pressured to achieve in general. Even in the most traditional quiverfull households, there is pressure to achieve things as well - the achievements are just in terms of popping out a baby once a year. I wonder if we live in a culture where just existing isn't good enough, and I wish that were different.
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Originally Posted By DoYouEvenNEM⏩
Did you even watch the video? Serious question because he doesn’t say anything about Rome in particular, only the general lifecycle of empires.Fall of Rome analogies are bad. I don't mean bad for us. I mean chronically bad.
The "fall of Rome" literally took 350 years or 1300 years depending on what you consider to be the last Rome (the city itself or Constantinople). To the people who lived through Rome's collapse they wouldn't had known it was collapsing.
The "fall of Rome" literally took 350 years or 1300 years depending on what you consider to be the last Rome (the city itself or Constantinople). To the people who lived through Rome's collapse they wouldn't had known it was collapsing.
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus⏩
Sometimes I read an interesting article in some newspaper or some fringe forum and I dig a bit deeper.****inator brah where do u find these things?
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Originally Posted By redraider86⏩
Look at depression rates, suicide rates etc. Compare wages v productivity to 10/20/30/40 years ago. Then look at moral standards, LMAO at the fact most people can have their lives ruined because they made an edgy joke on the internet at 14 or something. Don't get me wrong, there were worse times, but it's not exactly fking rosy right now.LOL I like you Kenneth but we're living in one of the greatest periods in history. I don't know what is up with the hyperbolic misc statements lately - if hell is the ability to design my future in an aggressively capitalist country where I'm able to provide a comfortable and secure life for myself then wtf I love hell now. I totally agree with you though that homemaking and raising children are noble pursuits.
I wonder if people feel pressured to achieve in general. Even in the most traditional quiverfull households, there is pressure to achieve things as well - the achievements are just in terms of popping out a baby once a year. I wonder if we live in a culture where just existing isn't good enough, and I wish that were different.
I wonder if people feel pressured to achieve in general. Even in the most traditional quiverfull households, there is pressure to achieve things as well - the achievements are just in terms of popping out a baby once a year. I wonder if we live in a culture where just existing isn't good enough, and I wish that were different.
I'm doing fine because I'm not a moron, the average person is fked. Society's not based on a few doing well, we need to all get a bit better or what's the point?
Also, of course we feel pressure to achieve, it's the reason we're not still sat in a fking cave hiding from wildlife. But I think what we view as achievements are a bit skewed.
I'm well off to the point of being secure and comfortable, which you could define as an achievement. Now is that as much of an achievement as being Bezos rich? Probably not but I'm not suffering lacking that achievement. Now I doubt that bald little goblin kunt will ever meet anyone who genuinely likes him, surely having people who can stand being around you is worth more than riches to the level where it all becomes pointless?
We're all just looking for happiness matey, we just need to fuk the distractions off and work out what it is we actually need to get there.
What we definitely don't need is advice from American university campuses though. That chit's making me think Adolf had a point.
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In great part a lot of the mental health problems are due to social media. This already happens to some of the insecure guys on here who see good looking, ripped guys on instagram living fun, exciting lives and getting hundreds and thousands sometimes even millions of likes on their pictures. When women see this(and not just older women are prone to this, uglier women are as well) and start developing self esteem issues it can cause serious damage.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
I don´t feel the need to read your retarded post since I can see your mistakes from the title.Strong argumentation as expected from a low IQ gypsy e-whore
Across the world women less mentally stable, especially in "gender equal" nations. in how many countries have you lived you fking moron ?
I can´t fuking stand idiots like you talking about what they don´t comprehend. go and do your homework piece of chit and learn why this study is not valid and not reliable.
Plot twist: In most conservative countries with patriarchy views on households, mental illness is stigmatized, considered weakness and people do not get checked or diagnosed to avoid being outcast. In how many countries as such have you lived ?
literally, you´re so stupid it´s actually laughable.
Short version: op is a fking idiot and a piece of chit, because in conservative no gender equality countries people are as equally depressed, they just don´t get diagnosed, having a fear of rejection. this is why his point of view is stupid, unreliable, not valid and idiotic.
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Women need kids in their life otherwise they become mentally unstable, start slootin on the side while your at work, and start drinking using drugs
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
I don´t feel the need to read your retarded post since I can see your mistakes from the title.
Across the world women less mentally stable, especially in "gender equal" nations. in how many countries have you lived you fking moron ?
I can´t fuking stand idiots like you talking about what they don´t comprehend. go and do your homework piece of chit and learn why this study is not valid and not reliable.
Plot twist: In most conservative countries with patriarchy views on households, mental illness is stigmatized, considered weakness and people do not get checked or diagnosed to avoid being outcast. In how many countries as such have you lived ?
literally, you´re so stupid it´s actually laughable.
Short version: op is a fking idiot and a piece of chit, because in conservative no gender equality countries people are as equally depressed, they just don´t get diagnosed, having a fear of rejection. this is why his point of view is stupid, unreliable, not valid and idiotic.
Across the world women less mentally stable, especially in "gender equal" nations. in how many countries have you lived you fking moron ?
I can´t fuking stand idiots like you talking about what they don´t comprehend. go and do your homework piece of chit and learn why this study is not valid and not reliable.
Plot twist: In most conservative countries with patriarchy views on households, mental illness is stigmatized, considered weakness and people do not get checked or diagnosed to avoid being outcast. In how many countries as such have you lived ?
literally, you´re so stupid it´s actually laughable.
Short version: op is a fking idiot and a piece of chit, because in conservative no gender equality countries people are as equally depressed, they just don´t get diagnosed, having a fear of rejection. this is why his point of view is stupid, unreliable, not valid and idiotic.
Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
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