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post 1634899443 03-29-2021, 08:20 AM
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DHT is the secret elixir for peak superhuman athletic performance

All the most explosive athletes are high DHT.
In a recent studywe showed that dihydrotestosterone (DHT), but not testosterone, increases force production in fast contracting muscles and decreases it in slow contracting ones. These findings led us to suggest thatDHT may be a better muscle building hormone than testosterone.In the present study, we have examined the effects of these hormones on amino acid transport in mouse fast and slow contracting skeletal muscle fibre bundles.Our results show that DHT increases protein synthesis and the transport of essential amino acids into fast contracting muscle fibre bundles, whereas testosterone does not.These findings confirm our previous proposition and reinforce our suggestion that DHT may be a better hormone for the treatment of muscle wasting conditions than testosterone.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3167122/






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Jordan - Bald
Kobe - Bald
Lebron - Bald with transplant
Tyson - Bald
Holyfield - Bald
Tyson Fury - Bald
Ngannou - going bald. check hairline last fight
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Originally Posted By Slaydom
Jordan - Bald
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high DHT does not mean bald
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Originally Posted By JuceSpringsteen
high DHT does not mean bald
it does lol.
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DHT is the super saiyan hormone

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[QUOTE=messomi post_id=1634900283]it does lol.[/QUOTE]Wrong. Serum DHT doesn't cause baldness, your hair follicles genetic sensitivity to androgens is what determines it. AKA your natural genetics

When you have extremely androgen-sensitive follicles, it elevates scalp DHT, leading to MPB.

Good genetics + elevated DHT = NW0 no hair loss

****ty genetics + elevated DHT = it's over

DHT is good, and it exposes ****ty genetics

[quote]Men who are exposed to exceptionally high levels of DHT in response to the daily application of DHT for a long period of time didn’t experience acne, male androgenic alopecia or other androgen-associated skin pathology.

Source:[URL=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21079217]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21079217[/URL]

Furthermore, the differences in mean values of DHT were not significant according to the types of alopecia and the control group. And increased serum concentrations of DHT is not correlated with the advance of alopecia.

Source:[URL=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25254005/]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25254005/[/URL]

This study speculates that hair loss severity is affected by other factors other than DHT, such as the duration of alopecia or the sensitivity of hair follicle cells to androgens.

Source:[URL=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6223099/]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6223099/[/URL]

Some people with hair loss have high DHT and others don’t, and some with high DHT have normal hair whereas others don’t.

Source:[URL=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328980562_A_New_Approach_to_Hair_Loss_Management_without_DHT_Blockers]https://www.researchgate.net/publica...t_DHT_Blockers[/URL]
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It could also have something to do with the fact every person in your post is of West African decent....
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Originally Posted By Seamanbeast
It could also have something to do with the fact every person in your post is of West African decent....
Well, Africans have higher testosterone and DHT according to the literature, so there's that
Black men had higher DHT levels and DHT to testosterone ratios than white and Hispanic men.

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/articl...1/4326/2656429
In fact, African American men have higher exposure to testosterone, the main biologically potent circulating androgen, than their Caucasian and Asian counterparts, beginning in the in utero period.101 African American women have testosterone levels that exceed those of Caucasian women by 50% or more in early pregnancy, an exposure that has been hypothesized to permanently alter the “gonadostat,” the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis, in African American male offspring relative to Caucasians.102 African American men during young adulthood also have substantially higher circulating testosterone levels than their Caucasian counterparts (approximately 13 to 15% difference at age 20 years).103 Although this difference appears to dissipate with age, African American men still have slightly higher testosterone levels than Caucasians (≈3% higher) at age 40 years.104
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Originally Posted By JuceSpringsteen
Well, Africans have higher testosterone and DHT according to the literature, so there's that
And higher ratio of fast-twitch muscle fiber, bone density. There are many biological differences between people from different areas. Do people really think evolution only worked for animals lol?
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Originally Posted By Seamanbeast
And higher ratio of fast-twitch muscle fiber, bone density. There are many biological differences between people from different areas. Do people really think evolution only worked for animals lol?
I know, but I don't see your point?

The hyper-athletic phenotype, although more common in blacks, can occur in all ethnic groups.

Brock Lesnar is a good example:





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Originally Posted By JuceSpringsteen
I know, but I don't see your point?

The hyper-athletic phenotype, although more common in blacks, can occur in all ethnic groups.
Guatemala has the shortest men on the planet. How do you suppose they do in basketball? Just because you find a freak here and there doesn't mean there aren't huge genetic variances in the general population.
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Originally Posted By Seamanbeast
Guatemala has the shortest men on the planet. How do you suppose they do in basketball? Just because you find a freak here and there doesn't mean there aren't huge genetic variances in the general population.
You're proving my point

Outliers do exist, which is my point. However rare they may be.

Matthew Boling is another extreme example of that hyper-athletic phenotype in a non black







Guys like Brock Lesnar and Matthew Boling exist, but they are incredibly rare.
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This is true.

Elevated but healthy DHT levels even help in stopping you looking like a baby (e.g. if you've got a baby-face). Elevated but healthy levels also help in increase musculature as well and body hair too etc.

The thing that is bad is HIGH levels. That's where fear of the Norwood steps in.

But elevated but healthy levels are what you want, not high levels.
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post 1634903483 03-29-2021, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By HannoCometh
This is true.

Elevated but healthy DHT levels even help in stopping you looking like a baby (e.g. if you've got a baby-face). Elevated but healthy levels also help in increase musculature as well and body hair too etc.

The thing that is bad is HIGH levels. That's where fear of the Norwood steps in.

But elevated but healthy levels are what you want, not high levels.
No you ****ing idiot you have no idea what you're talking about. Read:

Men who are exposed toexceptionally high levels of DHTin response to the daily application of DHT for a long period of timedidn’t experienceacne,male androgenic alopeciaor other androgen-associated skin pathology.

Source:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21079217

Furthermore, the differences in mean values of DHT were not significant according to the types of alopecia and the control group. Andincreased serum concentrations of DHT is not correlated with the advance of alopecia.

Source:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25254005/

This study speculates that hair loss severity is affected by other factors other than DHT, such as the duration of alopecia or the sensitivity of hair follicle cells to androgens.

Source:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6223099/

Some people with hair loss have high DHT and others don’t, and some with high DHT have normal hair whereas others don’t.

Source:https://www.researchgate.net/publica...t_DHT_Blockers
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Hair > fast twitch muscle for 99.9% of the population
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz
Hair > fast twitch muscle for 99.9% of the population
DHT doesn't cause hair loss, for the 100th ****ing time

You ****ing idiot
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Originally Posted By JuceSpringsteen
DHT doesn't cause hair loss, for the 100th ****ing time

You ****ing idiot
ok lol
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DHT only causes baldness if you have bad hair genetics
or else Jay Cutler would be completely bald
and i promise you hes taken a ton of tren in his lifetime which is even stronger and more pronounced than dht

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dht is what makes you a man

Testosterone often gets credit for all the positive things DHT does

There is actually a disease called 5-alpha reductase deficiency
It's very rare but much more common in certain countries
They have balls and create normal amounts of testosterone but are unable to convert any DHT

"Many people with 5-alpha reductase deficiency are born with external genitalia that appear female. In other cases, the external genitalia do not look clearly male or clearly female (sometimes called ambiguous genitalia). Still other affected infants have genitalia that appear predominantly male, often with an unusually small penis (micropenis) and the urethra opening on the underside of the penis (hypospadias)."

Children with 5-alpha reductase deficiency are often raised as girls.
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Originally Posted By EliteBrah
dht is what makes you a man

Testosterone often gets credit for all the positive things DHT does

There is actually a disease called 5-alpha reductase deficiency
It's very rare but much more common in certain countries
They have balls and create normal amounts of testosterone but are unable to convert any DHT

"Many people with 5-alpha reductase deficiency are born with external genitalia that appear female. In other cases, the external genitalia do not look clearly male or clearly female (sometimes called ambiguous genitalia). Still other affected infants have genitalia that appear predominantly male, often with an unusually small penis (micropenis) and the urethra opening on the underside of the penis (hypospadias)."

Children with 5-alpha reductase deficiency are often raised as girls.
DHT - aka the Superman hormone.

finasteride = basically kryptonite
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Originally Posted By EliteBrah
dht is what makes you a man

Testosterone often gets credit for all the positive things DHT does

There is actually a disease called 5-alpha reductase deficiency
It's very rare but much more common in certain countries
They have balls and create normal amounts of testosterone but are unable to convert any DHT

"Many people with 5-alpha reductase deficiency are born with external genitalia that appear female. In other cases, the external genitalia do not look clearly male or clearly female (sometimes called ambiguous genitalia). Still other affected infants have genitalia that appear predominantly male, often with an unusually small penis (micropenis) and the urethra opening on the underside of the penis (hypospadias)."

Children with 5-alpha reductase deficiency are often raised as girls.
Yup,

Only balding cucks willing to castrate themselves with finasteride deny the importance of DHT.

https://men-elite.com/2020/09/29/the...esearch-shows/

DHT is 2.5-10 times more potent than testosterone
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Originally Posted By EliteBrah
dht is what makes you a man

Testosterone often gets credit for all the positive things DHT does

There is actually a disease called 5-alpha reductase deficiency
It's very rare but much more common in certain countries
They have balls and create normal amounts of testosterone but are unable to convert any DHT

"Many people with 5-alpha reductase deficiency are born with external genitalia that appear female. In other cases, the external genitalia do not look clearly male or clearly female (sometimes called ambiguous genitalia). Still other affected infants have genitalia that appear predominantly male, often with an unusually small penis (micropenis) and the urethra opening on the underside of the penis (hypospadias)."

Children with 5-alpha reductase deficiency are often raised as girls.
Take this with a pinch of salt. Lots of factors, from caffeine to environmental factors can make some mens'flaccidsize smaller on occasion, from time to time.

EDIT: Some dudes who can easily achieve a 7 inch erection for example, can sometimes see their flaccid size decrease to as small a size as their goddamn pinky or even SMALLER for a variety of goddamn reasons - and they're perfectly normal pahahahahahahahahaha


(As a dude, surely you'd know this wtf)

(Or ain't you never seen a goddamn Greek statue, muthaf*cka?!)
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Having high DHT is basically like this scene

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I have higher DHT than average, and my hairline is perfect. DHT is more potent than total testosterone. Mexicans have the highest total testosterone, but blacks have more DHT. DHT makes someone more explosive, but also more impulsive and aggressive. Total testosterone makes you calm, logical, and seeming dominance.https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/7/2519/2598282
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Pretty sure high DHT caused baldness. Lol at baldcels.
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Loving these DHT threads
Keep em coming
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Originally Posted By EarlA
Pretty sure high DHT caused baldness. Lol at baldcels.
OP's point is that it does notin of itselfcause baldness (which I agreed with him above btw, but he appeared to have misread my post) and that a variety of factors contribute to that.
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Originally Posted By HannoCometh
OP's point is that it does notin of itselfcause baldness (which I agreed with him above btw, but he appeared to have misread my post) and that a variety of factors contribute to that.
I honestly don’t give a fuk. I wanted OP to get mad and call me names.
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