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post 1637834843 05-05-2021, 12:23 PM
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Fuk ohp, I'm not doing it anymore

I randomly struggle with serious lightheadedness / blacking out with ohp. This never occurs on any other lifts.
I can go weeks with nothing then all of a sudden one day I'll feel light headed from the very first warm up set.

This chit happens the moment I unrack the bar, and I can't figure out why.
I have fainted for a second or two on more than one occasion. Either I've been able to rerack before I go under, or the bar falls on the safeties and I fall on the floor. Worst feeling in the world as you come to, rapid breathing and your head pounding.

Not worth fukking with it anymore. I think it's a blood pressure thing but really I don't think it's worth this.

Been practicing with one hand dB push press this session and i might stick with these
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post 1637834943 05-05-2021, 12:24 PM
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Is the bar against your neck in the rack position?

Seen vids of guys passing out doing front squats due to this.
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post 1637835093 05-05-2021, 12:26 PM
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I still don’t get why people do OHPs. It’s a ticket to Snap City.
post 1637835213 05-05-2021, 12:27 PM
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yeah i have that happen occasionally. i think it's from sitting on the bench in the cage, then rapidly standing up to unrack and do set. if i stay standing inbetween sets its lessened.
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post 1637835263 05-05-2021, 12:28 PM
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You either have the bar in a position to cut off blow flow or some type of undiagnosed cardiac issue. I'd get checked out brah. Ded srs.
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post 1637835383 05-05-2021, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By LethalGunz34⏩
I still don’t get why people do OHPs. It’s a ticket to Snap City.
Wat?? It's much easier on the shoulders than benching
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post 1637835543 05-05-2021, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By LethalGunz34⏩
I still don’t get why people do OHPs. It’s a ticket to Snap City.
Been doing them for 15 years. Keep the elbows forward, no suicide grip, and you'll be fine.

I do see people with really wide grips sometimes and am like 'wtf are you doing brah'
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post 1637835563 05-05-2021, 12:30 PM
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Bar is not on my neck brahs and I never feel it during front squats where the bar is actually touching my neck

I do them standing by the way, and my feeling is that it is something that is triggered. For example if there is something off in my set up, I will immediately feel light ended and have to rerack. This makes the exercise so temperamental and difficult
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post 1637835733 05-05-2021, 12:32 PM
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I get lightheadedness from time to time, same with deadlifts, but only for like a split second, never came close to crashing down on the floor though. I don't think it's really that uncommon.

been doing it for years and haven't died yet so there's that

if you're doing it for primarily shoulder development it's far from necessary, but you can set safeties just below your chest if possible to catch the bar. but sounds like it's pretty bad for you.

Only thing I can say is take really deep breaths, and don't hold your breath for too long.
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post 1637835753 05-05-2021, 12:32 PM
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And yes I do suicide grip
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post 1637835803 05-05-2021, 12:33 PM
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DB or machine press crew if all benches are taken.

Apart from a fixed arm path which might be worse for you and some slight core there really is no tangible benefit in my eyes. It's not a required lift for anything.

Just lol at the "it looks alpha" crew. I've never seen an OHP that blows my mind while also maintaining a straight and strong back.

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post 1637835853 05-05-2021, 12:33 PM
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lol I nearly passed out on OHP too several times. couldn't remember I was lifting

nearly blacked out on deadlift and squat a few times
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post 1637835953 05-05-2021, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
Wat?? It's much easier on the shoulders than benching
this. Ive only injured my shoulder on flat bench
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post 1637836073 05-05-2021, 12:35 PM
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Ohp is a goat exercise. Are you holding your breath. I’d have a doc check your blood pressure.

I once did a set too heavy and my neck was sore for a week.
post 1637836093 05-05-2021, 12:36 PM
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The only exercise I do in the smith is OHP. I do narrow grip and it feel great on my shoulders.
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Just did clean form sets yesterday with 155. Felt good man.
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post 1637836563 05-05-2021, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By tvr123⏩
Bar is not on my neck brahs and I never feel it during front squats where the bar is actually touching my neck

I do them standing by the way, and my feeling is that it is something that is triggered. For example if there is something off in my set up, I will immediately feel light ended and have to rerack. This makes the exercise so temperamental and difficult
It might not be on your neck but it is impeding blood flow somehow or you wouldn't be getting light headed unless you are OHP more than your front squat
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post 1637836723 05-05-2021, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By LethalGunz34⏩
I still don’t get why people do OHPs. It’s a ticket to Snap City.
Lol what? Toughest but also best lift, period. Every lift is snap city if you don’t know what you’re doing.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
eh?

You need to be deadlifting if you're doing OHP. You can't progress much if you have a weak core.

I would strongly suggest suicide grip + microloading, it's one of my favorite exercises
I never deadlift and I was able to strict overhead press 225lbs when I was like 18 or 19. I know it’s not a ton of weight but it’s better than most, I haven’t done them in a while though. Never had any core problems with overhead press but barbell rows I have, I’ve never been able to do more than 185lbs for a comfortable set and usually stick to 135lbs-155lbs for my sets. In comparison to my other lifts my rows have definitely lacked.
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If something is impeding bloodflow it's not the bar brahs. Only thing the bar is in contact with is my hands
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post 1637837453 05-05-2021, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
You're much bigger than me, figured your # would be higher. I was doing sets of 5 @ 120.

Must be harder and harder to progress on this lift, maybe why



Weird. I can row 190 with decent form for sets of 5, but I struggle to deadlift 225 lmao. My lower body is weak as chit.
Im not geneticaly strong. After 15 years of relatively constant lifting, my numbers should be much higher.

Im also surrounded by pretty poor lifters as well lol, you dont see many strong people here, so i lack that competition drive as well. Never done proper strenght training.
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Its a chit exercise for a variety of reasons

You're much better off without
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner⏩
You ever get checked for valvular heart disease my dude?
Come on you ******* stop trying to scare me lol

I've never had anything like the symptoms that ohp occasionally provokes at any other point in my life. I've felt a little light headed after a 500lb dl before, but nothing like the sudden onset effects that sometimes happen during ohp.

It has to be something technique / body positioning related but I just don't have the motivation or the confidence in the movement anymore to spend any more energy trying to figure it out.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
You're much bigger than me, figured your # would be higher. I was doing sets of 5 @ 120.

Must be harder and harder to progress on this lift, maybe why



Weird. I can row 190 with decent form for sets of 5, but I struggle to deadlift 225 lmao. My lower body is weak as chit.
I feel your pain with having a lift lagging badly compared to others (see sig) but I have no idea how you can look like your avi and struggle to deadlift 2 plates. Do you squat at all?
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Standing OHP is a meme exercise to be honest

You're limited by how much weight you can use by your core/flexibility, so for shoulder growth it's subpar

It has a higher potential for injury

So you have an exercise that's literally the worst of both worlds

Do seated DB or, even better if you're actually strong, seated machine shoulder press. You can actually take your shoulders to at or near failure. Leave the OHP for the fat 5/3/1ers or SSers that put on a belt and wear their romaleos to OHP 155 for 5 reps

You should be focusing more on side raises and rear delt flies for shoulder growth anyway
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after two should surgeries from doing OHP, behind the neck pull-downs, dips and other stupid arm movements... I don't do any of that chit no more. from my MANY months of PT, through various trainers and two surgeons, they all gave me the same advice. those movements are hell on your ligaments/joints. if ya wanna do it for bodybuilding comps or some olympic lift competition chit, sure... but it won't last long before you're either in PT or surgery. Our arms weren't made to move that way and repetitive load movements like that wear your joints out.

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Last Saturday I did them and felt this weird pinch in my neck that went to my arm and made it go limp for like half a second. Weird ass feeling and also quitting OHP
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