What was your experience with treatment from women?

I've been both sides of the coin, up until my mid 20s I was 217lbs of jiggly fat and had never set foot in a gym.

I was literally a background character to women, they either looked straight past me or if they did make eye contact it was almost like I'd offended them by looking at them.

The only girls who acted like I was a human being were 5/10s who I wasn't even attracted to and they still friend zoned me.

When I hit 25 I started gym and was lucky that I had good genetics, I lost 40lbs and got in good shape within like 6 months. I wasn't Arnie by any means but I had decent arms and a v taper.

The difference from women was absoloute night and day, suddenly 6/10s were effortless to have sex with, and the 7s and 8s would sometimes check me out and pretty much always smile if making eye contact.

Funnily enough the 5/10 types who had friend zoned me before were now the ones who looked miserable at me but oh well.

But yeah for me a total, complete night and day experience, like it was almost comical how much different I was treated.

Started lifting in hs and got laid, but yeah even as a fat kid i was already a player

Obviously, women began paying attention to me much more as I got leaner and more muscular. It's also that my self-esteem and self-confidence increased in parallel with my physical aesthetics, so that lead me to talk more naturally and come across in a more desirable way as well.

I wasn't, I got lucky with my high school girlfriend I had for 2.5 years and after that had like a 6 year dry spell lol

about to be alotof delusional answers from people that don't look like they lift itt srs

both.

terribly out of shape at the present time.

difference as far as women goes is like night and day. no question about that.. i consider my self a fat azz at this time. but changes are in the works