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post 1639945153 06-01-2021, 10:11 PM
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Snap On has to be the biggest rip off of all time

Yeah their tools are great, and I have some for work but dude, the markup has to be ****ing insane.

https://shop.snapon.com/product/Dual...Red)/204RT02FR

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post 1639945653 06-01-2021, 10:19 PM
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How are they in business at those prices
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post 1639945993 06-01-2021, 10:27 PM
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Some of their tools are just a necessity on the job. That being said I dont buy their basic hand tools.


Those ratchets you listed are no joke though. Youll get what you pay for with those..
post 1639946463 06-01-2021, 10:39 PM
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My main boxes and 90% of my tools are Snap-on. If you use them every day, they're worth it. You won't know until it gets you out of a jam some chit tool won't. If you use them professionally, you will also know which of their tools are rebrands and can shop accordingly.
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post 1639946573 06-01-2021, 10:42 PM
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Bruh, solid silver wouldn't justify those prices.
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post 1639946663 06-01-2021, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted By the700level
How are they in business at those prices
I recall hearing somewhere that when an auto tech student finishes their courses at Wyotech or other trade school, that Snap-On tries to get them by offering a one-time chance to buy their tools at 50% off.

The story goes that a lot of young guys get wild-eyed and immediately get into $25k+ debt buying a bunch of extremely expensive stuff when they would be better off spending $1k on some mid-tier Craftsman, go to work, and then just borrow specialist tools from the other mechanics until they find out what else they actually need to own themselves.
post 1639946703 06-01-2021, 10:45 PM
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I thought you meant Strap On, because they are crazy expensive as well for what they are
post 1639947033 06-01-2021, 10:53 PM
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post 1639947043 06-01-2021, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted By WrathOfPecan
I recall hearing somewhere that when an auto tech student finishes their courses at Wyotech or other trade school, that Snap-On tries to get them by offering a one-time chance to buy their tools at 50% off.

The story goes that a lot of young guys get wild-eyed and immediately get into $25k+ debt buying a bunch of extremely expensive stuff when they would be better off spending $1k on some mid-tier Craftsman, go to work, and then just borrow specialist tools from the other mechanics until they find out what else they actually need to own themselves.
That gets old really fast. Nobody likes the coworker who borrows.
post 1639947913 06-01-2021, 11:13 PM
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Their ratchets are GOAT

For a tech on fixed price per job contracts I can see their specialty tools being worth it. For techs on per hour contracts no way.
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post 1639948533 06-01-2021, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
That gets old really fast. Nobody likes the coworker who borrows.
Well, of course. Hence the reason why I said these people should figure out what to buy quickly, and not develop it into a habit or reputation.

But there's no reason to be a doofus and spend $$ on metric if the ideal jobs in their town are airplanes or harleys.
post 1639949273 06-01-2021, 11:46 PM
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There are only a handful of tools they do better.

Their airtools are loud junk except the air grinders

The sockets and ratchets are not any better than some Taiwan brands now, my Tekton 90t ratchets are better than my Dual 80s

Their Screwdrivers can be had from Williams with a different handle

A good chunk of their chit is relabeled and marked up

Their wrenches arent really any better than Williams, SK, Wright and other industrial brands

My Pittsburgh impact sockets hold up just as well

Blah blah blah,
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If you think that markup is insane, you'd burst a blood vessel if you found out how much basically every retail establishment marks up the chit-quality products they buy from China.

I swear, 99% of the American retail economy is Chinese arbitrage where the markup is 90%+.
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because it's made in America.
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Yeah pricey as fuk as is MAC but they are pretty solid. As others have said, the ratchets will last a lifetime.

That said, hand tools I am looking Knipex or Klein tools
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Originally Posted By the700level
How are they in business at those prices
Because they send reps to your shop, provide a lifetime warranty, and offer you payment plans 100% srs.
post 1639982483 06-02-2021, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8
There are only a handful of tools they do better.

Their airtools are loud junk except the air grinders

The sockets and ratchets are not any better than some Taiwan brands now, my Tekton 90t ratchets are better than my Dual 80s

Their Screwdrivers can be had from Williams with a different handle

A good chunk of their chit is relabeled and marked up

Their wrenches arent really any better than Williams, SK, Wright and other industrial brands

My Pittsburgh impact sockets hold up just as well

Blah blah blah,
it's really pretty shocking how much of their/matco/mac's catalogs are rebrands, there's a garagejournal thread somewhere with all the part numbers matched up for probably hundreds of tools

there's certain things i would maybe spring for if i was a tech with a good tool truck guy, just for the convenience, but yeah some of these kids get hung up immediately coming out of school with tens of thousands of nonsense
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it's because the snap-on tool gal who comes around is hot and easy
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Funny coincidence. Iโ€™m looking into getting a basic ratchet set for whenever I need them around the house. I just ordered a ton of home gym equipment (squat rack/various machines/etc) and Iโ€™ll be ratcheting a ton in the coming weeks

Currently Iโ€™m thinking Gearwrench is the brand Iโ€™ll go with. Anybody have another recommendation at a similar price point?
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Originally Posted By the700level
How are they in business at those prices
Because they drive the truck around to mechanic shops and sell to young, impulsive tradies on the spot. Ded srs.
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Originally Posted By bartosh
Funny coincidence. Iโ€™m looking into getting a basic ratchet set for whenever I need them around the house. I just ordered a ton of home gym equipment (squat rack/various machines/etc) and Iโ€™ll be ratcheting a ton in the coming weeks

Currently Iโ€™m thinking Gearwrench is the brand Iโ€™ll go with. Anybody have another recommendation at a similar price point?
Gear wrench 100%, they make good stuff. Theyre a step above the store brands like craftsman, husky, kobalt.

By the way, those 3 store brands are also perfect for home use/car repair, etc.
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Originally Posted By Skeptical_Hippo
Gear wrench 100%, they make good stuff. Theyre a step above the store brands like craftsman, husky, kobalt.

By the way, those 3 store brands are also perfect for home use/car repair, etc.
Actually Craftsman invested several hundred million and are currently building several factories in Texas. They will be made in the US again for the first time in decades, I'm pretty stoked honestly.

Also Malco bought the old Vise Grip plant and are now making US made pliers under the Eagle Grip name, I ordered a pair off Amazon and they are insanely nice
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Originally Posted By the700level
How are they in business at those prices
The easy payment plans. $5 a week for the rest of your life. It's insane how much our shop guys drop on them.

Cornwell used to come to our shop as well. Apparently the dad owned the route and his son was driving it for him. Son got mad at dad and quit, and they haven't been back since. The tradies still owe him upwards of $10,000 but nobody's paying if he doesn't come to pick it up.
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8
Actually Craftsman invested several hundred million and are currently building several factories in Texas. They will be made in the US again for the first time in decades, I'm pretty stoked honestly.

Also Malco bought the old Vise Grip plant and are now making US made pliers under the Eagle Grip name, I ordered a pair off Amazon and they are insanely nice
Holy chit this is hooge srs. Craftsman was actually a solid bran a long azz tiem ago.
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8
There are only a handful of tools they do better.

Their airtools are loud junk except the air grinders

The sockets and ratchets are not any better than some Taiwan brands now, my Tekton 90t ratchets are better than my Dual 80s

Their Screwdrivers can be had from Williams with a different handle

A good chunk of their chit is relabeled and marked up

Their wrenches arent really any better than Williams, SK, Wright and other industrial brands

My Pittsburgh impact sockets hold up just as well

Blah blah blah,
tekton is surprisingly good. i bought their 3/8 and 1/2 in torque wrenches for fkin cheap on amazon, used my buddies tester on em and they were spot on, +- 3%
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Originally Posted By gluon
tekton is surprisingly good. i bought their 3/8 and 1/2 in torque wrenches for fkin cheap on amazon, used my buddies tester on em and they were spot on, +- 3%
They also have quite a bit of US made stuff, screwdrivers, angle wrenches, bungee cords etc
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