2 of the scientists have been vaccinated.

Dr. Bret Weinstein, biologist and professor

Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of Mrna vaccine technology
https://www.emedevents.com/speaker-p...obert-w-malone

Mr. Steve Kirsch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch



- refers to FOI document obtained from Japan that detailed where the spike protein was accumulated in the body
- the FDA knew this information, but said the spike protein wasn't biologically active
- says that he sent the FDA info about the spike protein being biologically active
- men seem to agree that the intent was to keep the spike protein trapped within cell via a membrane, but that no animal testing was done

- we have no problem with MRNA vaccines
- the fact that the spike protein cleaves off the cell and goes anywhere and everywhere in the body is the problem
- people speaking against vaccine are being censored; 200K users removed from FB
- mentions of multiple negative medical events taking place, but claims that doctors [patients?] are under pressure to not relate things to the vaccine, mentions heart attacks, tremors, and miscarriages taking place that are not being reported to VAERs

I'm about a half hour in.

It’s perfectly safe you guise
Srsly

Just take it



Lol no vaccine crew

katya plz... 3 hours?

At least it's not an attention whoring thread.

Bump for that

VAERs graphic cited about 40 minutes in. Essentially flat from 1990 until it spikes up in 2021:

Well I will give cliffs/highlights. Might take awhile.

First I have heard the actual claim that the spike protein is not being held attached to the cells by the membrane as intended by the makers of the vaccine.

ETA: most interesting bit between the 30 min mark and 40 min was chat of each one of them encountering multiple people that had some kind of unusual health issue around the vaccine. Kirsch said that in an informal survey he found about 3% had lasting problems post vaccine. Malone said that the health effects have been "strangely delayed". He did not say that this meant VAERs is missing events, however I believe VAERs reporting is only out to 30 days post vaccination.

At about 38 minutes all three men [doctor/Mrna vax guy, biologist, and the engineer/researcher] agree that children and people that have had COVID should not get the vaccine as their risk from the virus is very minimal.

Probably won't finish watching this tonight.

- strong evidence for the effectiveness of two different existing drugs for txmt [fluvoxamine and ivermectin]
- health dept and Gates foundation are aware, but crickets
- solid study re:ivermectin has been peer reviewed and may be published tomorrow

Link to Kirsch's evolving article:
https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/

Just scanned it and these stood out:Edit to correct drug name.

Good info thanks

Wait, so is this saying that 82% of pregnant women who have had the vaccine are having miscarriages?

I’m not getting the vaccine, but that seems pretty dubious.

ill show you my spike proteins.

gnomesayin?

Says women that are in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, not all pregnant women:

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...Pbt8mmG0zQO6e8

I've taken the vaccine and I'm perfectly fine! This is fear mongering... take the vaccine, wear the mask and trust the fking science bigots!

Not sure if srs.

But I hope you are perfectly fine.

Srs.

I just read that link, then followed the source where they pulled the information. The link states in their notes that 124 women did not receive their shots in the third trimester. But the journal from which they quote doesn’t state that. The shot could be in the second trimester as well, but there’s nothing that I can see that can derive the 124 number since the journal just says “mostly”I find the second bolded more concerning.

You are not looking at the full paper

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8117969/

Among 827 participants who had a completed pregnancy, the pregnancy resulted in a live birth in 712 (86.1%), in a spontaneous abortion in 104 (12.6%), in stillbirth in 1 (0.1%), and in other outcomes (induced abortion and ectopic pregnancy) in 10 (1.2%). A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation (Table 4), and 700 of 712 pregnancies that resulted in a live birth (98.3%) were among persons who received their first eligible vaccine dose in the third trimester.

Miscarriages mean that it's working.

this is all a conspiracy theory, right guise? right?

Need to listen to Dr.TenPenney on the vax..

Skip to 32 min in


https://www.bitchute.com/video/9TVdZUefMSDg/

You might like the whole show, guy is funny AF

thanks for sharing, will watch!

1:16:30-1:20:00

Talks about a database for vaccine related side effects, deaths, etc that the government wont share with trusted independent 3rd parties.

The guys on this podcast say that there are 3 fundamental principles in western bio-ethics
1. Full and Complete disclosure of risks
2. Ensuring Comprehension of Risks
3. Willing Consent

And that to publish in any journal you would have to allow access to your data, but the government isn't doing that and is instead just saying "trust us" and not following the 3 principles.

That argument is riddled with problems and it isn’t consistent with principles of natural selection.

Another quality post by Katya.

Good find. Will watch soon

what you need to know

Of course escape variants will increase in frequency. That would happen regardless. It happens with infection induced acquired immunity as well. It doesn’t make the vaccines futile.

I would be highly skeptical of anyone who said we would NOT need subsequent vaccinations. We’re dealing with natural selection. That’s not the extent of his argument. His argument is that vaccination during a pandemic (and not before) is worse than not vaccinating at all. That is unfounded both theoretically and empirically.

Just lmao at anyone younger than 70 taking this vaccine (ded fkn srs)

Good morning. Seems like a few of you are ahead of me.

I'm around the hour mark. Panel mentions that the government has commissioned their own study on under reporting of events to the VAERs system and found that there could be up to 100X more events than what is being reported so far. Men agree that is way too high, but that the number of events occurring is under reported to some extent as yet unknown.

Next they compare what is happening around the COVID vaccine to what happened with cancer from smoking- that the population level data is there, but it is being denied though obvious to an honest observer.

Starting to talk about Tess Holiday in the UK who is seeing the same type of obfuscation with UK data that they are seeing with US data.

ETA: 5,000 reported deaths for the US, 12,000 reported to the Yellow Card system in the UK

Around 1:10 Kirsch states that he contacted the people who run Open VAERs and they estimate the number is more like 20,000 which is more than all other vaccines combines for 30 years. Says when you look at adverse events it is also more than all other vaccines for 30 years combines. Says that the effects support the hypothesis that the spike protein is escaping the cells in the muscle tissue and entering circulation through the body.

Malone cautions that the UK system doesn't break out the vaccines separately and has them listed all together.

Follow up by Kirsch who states that Holiday concluded that the vaccines are unsafe and should be stopped. Further concluded that we should be ramping up support for those who have had the vaccine and may need short and long term support.

Kirsch says that he has been in contact with a physician who is seeing patients that did not have COVID, but did have the vaccine and are unwell. Says that the blood work for these patients looks like the blood work of patients with long haul COVID. [Dr. Bruce Patterson who specializes in long haul COVID.]

Weinstein replies that it is becoming clear to clinicians that COVID, long haul COVID, and post-vaccine syndrome are closely related because the spike protein is shared between all of these.

Malone says that is a valid working hypothesis for what is occuring.

Just hitting this part about the secret data base called VSAFE.

Kirsch speaks of a man who is head of an organization that has vaccinated a million people and is on the CDC calls every week. When asked the man says that he believes the vaccine has only killed about a 100 people. Implication is that this number is from the VSAFE data base, but it isn't open for anyone to analyze.

Malone says that our own data analysts with the FDA are not able to access the data in VSAFE.

Thanks!

It still seems to be correlating the shot with miscarriage rather than proving the shot caused the miscarriage though.

I think we all know that I am against getting the vaccine, but before I start telling others “don’t get the vaccine because of x”, I want to make sure what I am telling them is correct and verifiable, so I need to be rigorous when information such as this comes out.