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post 1641080773 06-17-2021, 12:04 PM
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Dafuq Is a "Cloud Dedicated Server"?

dat dere contradiction of terms

does that mean your sites are on a dedicated server but the server is not where you think it is?

or does it mean it's a virtual cloud server and they're just fukken with you misusing the word dedicated?

just LOL @ cloudcels
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post 1641080943 06-17-2021, 12:06 PM
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Most cloud services you share the hardware with a bunch of other accounts. You get "virtual" CPU/memory/disk time that you pay for. If it is "dedicated" you are the only one using the resources of that particular set of hardware.

If you are on a shared account it's possible that another account could read into your accounts processes with some creating hacking. This is why the "Meltdown" and associated Intel flaws were so serious.
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
Most cloud services you share the hardware with a bunch of other accounts. You get "virtual" CPU/memory/disk time that you pay for. If it is "dedicated" you are the only one using the resources of that particular set of hardware.
so does that mean my datacenter is subcontracting the hosting of my dedicated server to Havoc's Hosting and Late Night Massage in NJ?
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post 1641081493 06-17-2021, 12:12 PM
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Sounds like autistic marketing
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post 1641081503 06-17-2021, 12:12 PM
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are you fukin retarded?

the server is hosting the cloud and that is its only job. literally in the name
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post 1641081513 06-17-2021, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
so does that mean my datacenter is subcontracting the hosting of my dedicated server to Havoc's Hosting and Late Night Massage in NJ?
Either scenario the datacenter has all the hardware in their location. Just if you were using a shared server Havoc's HTC pictures might steal some of your CPU from having to process the huge pictures.
post 1641081713 06-17-2021, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Kadoobiedo⏩
are you fukin retarded?

the server is hosting the cloud and that is its only job. literally in the name
legit not sure if srs
Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
Either scenario the datacenter has all the hardware in their location. Just if you were using a shared server Havoc's HTC pictures might steal some of your CPU from having to process the huge pictures.
legit raging if a single cycle was used for one of those sewer pigs
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post 1641081873 06-17-2021, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Kadoobiedo⏩
are you fukin retarded?

the server is hosting the cloud and that is its only job. literally in the name
No, it literally doesn't make sense. Dedicated server implies he is renting the sole isolated machine. Cloud implies a scalable, shared infrastructure which can be allocated to him when his instance requires certain resources.

A "Cloud Dedicated" server sounds like a fixed dedicated server (VM) hosted on a shared, scalable system (the cloud), which defeats the purpose of decoupling from the cloud network in the first place.
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post 1641082213 06-17-2021, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
No, it literally doesn't make sense. Dedicated server implies he is renting the sole isolated machine. Cloud implies a scalable, shared infrastructure which can be allocated to him when his instance requires certain resources.

A "Cloud Dedicated" server sounds like a fixed dedicated server (VM) hosted on a shared, scalable system (the cloud), which defeats the purpose of decoupling from the cloud network in the first place.
thing is, it was a dedicated server last time we migrated and this chit just crept in somehow. my sysadmin dude is looking into it. plus, the hardware doesn't match the invoice. the hardware lists as 32 core when i click on the server and 8 core when i click on the invoice. maybe they allocate the server into quarters and the other scumbags can't use your fixed cores no matter what? no clue, but that's bullchit

the new server is gonna be fully dedicated 16 core 6226R with 64 gigs of ram and we're migrating in about a week. gonna see if i can get a credit for this cumulus cloudcel chit they weaseled on us

i wonder if they cloud****s can trick customers into thinking a server is dedicated when it's not, without any way of telling? guess you gotta reinstall linux periodically to check hehe
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post 1641083903 06-17-2021, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
thing is, it was a dedicated server last time we migrated and this chit just crept in somehow. my sysadmin dude is looking into it. plus, the hardware doesn't match the invoice. the hardware lists as 32 core when i click on the server and 8 core when i click on the invoice. maybe they allocate the server into quarters and the other scumbags can't use your fixed cores no matter what? no clue, but that's bullchit
Are the other cores disabled or is 8 the absolute maximum?

If the latter, sounds like there are 4 dedicated "servers" (VMs) running on that
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post 1641084063 06-17-2021, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
No, it literally doesn't make sense. Dedicated server implies he is renting the sole isolated machine. Cloud implies a scalable, shared infrastructure which can be allocated to him when his instance requires certain resources.

A "Cloud Dedicated" server sounds like a fixed dedicated server (VM) hosted on a shared, scalable system (the cloud), which defeats the purpose of decoupling from the cloud network in the first place.
This is the best summary. Sounds like dat der marketing to me OP.

Only thing I can think of is maybe they mean a dedicated server that has capacity to scale over into non-dedicated cloud.
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Are the other cores disabled or is 8 the absolute maximum?

If the latter, sounds like there are 4 dedicated "servers" (VMs) running on that
our dude is gonna check and get back to me.

we don't have that much traffic across all of our sites and it was never like super slow or anything, but i prefer overkill hardware so everything is instant for everyone.

these days i feel like you lose more than the cost of the entire server for the month if a few customers are lagging and then going elsewhere
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post 1641084113 06-17-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Are the other cores disabled or is 8 the absolute maximum?

If the latter, sounds like there are 4 dedicated "servers" (VMs) running on that
This, sounds like VMs
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post 1641085273 06-17-2021, 12:59 PM
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"cloud" is just a cluster of supercomputers
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As above, "Cloud Dedicated Server" is poor terminology and even worse marketing once someone realizes like Ratfish has that what they are paying for vs what they are receiving are potentially two very different things.

That said, I sell "dedicated servers" often which are actually just VMs (virtual machines) hosted on my cloud. They DO receive dedicated resources from the pool, nobody can steal resources from them, but it's a total waste and less profitable for me to offer single dedicated machines to a client when I can just virtualize everything. Nobody ever questions if it's a dedicated machine or not, and if they do I just say that yes it's hosted in my cloud, and they typically drop it.

If you're doing e-commerce and need to be PCI (or more) compliant, then VMs can cause a problem with that.
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Y’all stupid.

OP let me put you on game homie.

These are the servers that generate the clouds for our simulation. Now that you know you’re gonna commit suicide by ripping your head off.
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
Sounds like autistic marketing
Strong this.

"Cloud" is basically "virtual services over the interwebz".

Been around for decades, like literally over 25 years. Marketers started peddling the word "cloud" because it appeals to braindead MBAs with little to no practical experience.

For small companies, they're a godsend. For large companies, they need to be used sparingly.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
dat dere contradiction of terms

does that mean your sites are on a dedicated server but the server is not where you think it is?

or does it mean it's a virtual cloud server and they're just fukken with you misusing the word dedicated?
It sounds like there's some confusion about the terminology. A dedicated server typically means you have exclusive access to a physical server, while a virtual cloud server is shared among multiple users. If you're looking for a reliable option, you might want to consider HostNoc to buy dedicated server solutions that fit your needs.
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