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post 1641263563 06-20-2021, 09:21 AM
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Why is Euthanasia illegal in so many places

Shouldn’t we have the right to say when and where and have some dignity over our last moments

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post 1641263913 06-20-2021, 09:25 AM
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No it’s only 4pm

Just thinking about death and despair, standard Sunday
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Yes but it's a slippery slope
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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
Yes but it's a slippery slope
Why? If you’re able to make a decision or write an advanced directive, what’s slippery?
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Why? If you’re able to make a decision or write an advanced directive, what’s slippery?
What about someone who has a 80% chance of death but a 20% chance of recovery?

What about someone with chronic pain (ex. cluster headaches) who would choose suicide to end the pain even though they might have lived 60 more years?

What about a person who wants to die early for odd reasons - ex.religion, to freeze their body for cryonics, to collect life insurance, out of spite
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there should be a kill age

once you reach it you are killed no matter what
post 1641264983 06-20-2021, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
What about someone who has a 80% chance of death but a 20% chance of recovery?

What about someone with chronic pain (ex. cluster headaches) who would choose suicide to end the pain even though they might have lived 60 more years?

What about a person who wants to die early for odd reasons - ex.religion, to freeze their body for cryonics, to collect life insurance, out of spite
OK what about them? You want someone else to decide you get to live 60 more years with crippling pain or do you want to make your own decisions

What if you no longer have the will or energy to fight for a 20% chance, what if that chance has been elusive for a year. Is there a time limit

Insurance doesn’t pay out on suicide

At what point do you think the government should dictate what you’re allowed to do with your own body
post 1641265133 06-20-2021, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
What about someone who has a 80% chance of death but a 20% chance of recovery?

What about someone with chronic pain (ex. cluster headaches) who would choose suicide to end the pain even though they might have lived 60 more years?

What about a person who wants to die early for odd reasons - ex.religion, to freeze their body for cryonics, to collect life insurance, out of spite
Shouldn't that be their choice, though? I know for me I'm for it. If I were dx'd with a terminal illness I would want to be able to make the choice to not suffer a horrible painful death and have my son have to witness that. Plus lets not forget the medical bills racked up that your loved ones have to deal with.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Shouldn’t we have the right to say when and where and have some dignity over our last moments

Thots
yes, we should ALWAYS be in control of our time here on earth

imagine subjecting a terminally ill person to nothing but pain & despair meanwhile theyre sitting around rotting away just waiting to be taken out by their affliction


couldnt think of anything more inhumane




years ago i watched a great documentary about this called How to die in Oregon

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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetBig⏩
yes, we should ALWAYS be in control of our time here on earth

imagine subjecting a terminally ill person to nothing but pain & despair meanwhile theyre sitting around rotting away just waiting to be taken out by their affliction


couldnt think of anything more inhumane
Exactly this.

Honestly, when I get to the age where I'm no longer self sufficient and independent I'd rather just go out peacefully and painlessly. I don't want my son/family to have to take care of me or go broke by putting me in a senior center.
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But in most places you can’t. You can’t do it in your home peacefully and with physician and family support , and if you do they can be prosecuted

Over here, we would have to fly to Switzerland to get any form of dignity
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
But in most places you can’t. You can’t do it in your home peacefully and with physician and family support , and if you do they can be prosecuted

Over here, we would have to fly to Switzerland to get any form of dignity
Right and I think that's a travesty. We don't make animals suffer needlessly, why do we as humans need to?
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post 1641266253 06-20-2021, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
What about someone who has a 80% chance of death but a 20% chance of recovery?

What about someone with chronic pain (ex. cluster headaches) who would choose suicide to end the pain even though they might have lived 60 more years?

What about a person who wants to die early for odd reasons - ex.religion, to freeze their body for cryonics, to collect life insurance, out of spite
My dad was in and out of a coma 2 months prior to his death. A week before he passed away he mustered up the strength to write on a piece of paper. He wrote a barely legible "I want to die".

They kept him alive because of that small chance of recovery. Had he not perished, should he have been kept alive?

What you're describing is, IMO (I'll change my mind if statistics back your point), but a minority of people who would benefit from assisted suicide. We should let those in pain have a final say in their life.
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A misguided belief that human life is so sacred it has to be protected/saved no matter the cost or quality of life. Mostly from organized religion.

We love our pets enough to end their suffering, I don't see why we can't extend the same compassion to Grandma or ourselves.

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post 1641266763 06-20-2021, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
A misguided belief that human life is so sacred it has to be protected/saved no matter the cost or quality of life. Mostly from organized religion.

We love our pets enough to end their suffering, I don't see why we can't extend the same compassion to Grandma or ourselves.

The day I get diagnosed with Alzheimer's I'm finding a nice spot to watch the sunset with a glass of fine bourbon then inhaling a tank of helium.
Another horrendous disease that we let people suffer through. How is it better to let someone starve to death than to let them die peacefully and painlessly?
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Because, you can't make a servant/consumer from a dead person. Its just another example of how the government wants to control every aspect of your life.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
Because, you can't make a servant/consumer from a dead person. Its just another example of how the government wants to control every aspect of your life.
The real answer, although is Big Medicine who has set this up.

If hospital systems and pharma companies can choose between you dying sooner peacefully, Or you suffering and wasting away but running up $xx,xxx hospital and drug bills each extra day youre alive- its a no brainer.

Our healthcare field is soo completely corrupted and rotten people cant even imagine.
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
A misguided belief that human life is so sacred it has to be protected/saved no matter the cost or quality of life. Mostly from organized religion.

We love our pets enough to end their suffering, I don't see why we can't extend the same compassion to Grandma or ourselves.

The day I get diagnosed with Alzheimer's I'm finding a nice spot to watch the sunset with a glass of fine bourbon then inhaling a tank of helium.
Something we agree on.

Make a DNR decree and refuse treatment if you're in the hospital. That's what I'm doing. Just let me die having fun with morphine.
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Originally Posted By knightofday⏩
The real answer, although is Big Medicine who has set this up.

If hospital systems and pharma companies can choose between you dying sooner peacefully, Or you suffering and wasting away but running up $xx,xxx hospital and drug bills each extra day youre alive- its a no brainer.

Our healthcare field is soo completely corrupted and rotten people cant even imagine.
It happens in countries with socialised healthcare too
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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
What about someone who has a 80% chance of death but a 20% chance of recovery?

What about someone with chronic pain (ex. cluster headaches) who would choose suicide to end the pain even though they might have lived 60 more years?

What about a person who wants to die early for odd reasons - ex.religion, to freeze their body for cryonics, to collect life insurance, out of spite
It’s tough but I definitely agree that euthanasia should be legalised. There comes a suffering threshold where life becomes unbearable and everyone’s tolerances are different. Cluster headaches are definitely up there, especially the chronic form - as well as Trigeminal Neuralgia and CRPS (Complex Regional Pain Syndrome). Also anyone diagnosed with a terminal illness (late stage cancer, ALS, etc) should be given the option. Not everyone wants to rot and suffer for the sake of longevity

Also, anyone who says “life isalwaysworth living” needs a reality check. What if you were a POW in Unit 731? What if you were destined to have your ass hole sodomized by Big Jamal every night in your cell while his friend beats off in the corner? Come on.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
It happens in countries with socialised healthcare too
You Americans have no idea how "socialized" medicine works.

It's all the same. Only difference is taxpayer pays. And gov't sets the prices, so there's always shortages (that's why it takes months to get anything done that's not carted in from an ambulance).
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
You Americans have no idea how "socialized" medicine works.

It's all the same. Only difference is taxpayer pays. And gov't sets the prices, so there's always shortages (that's why it takes months to get anything done that's not carted in from an ambulance).
Bitch, did you just call me american ?
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
Bitch, did you just call me american ?
Point still stands.
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
Point still stands.
I disagree I’ve never had to wait months but it’s also not the point of the thread tbh
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