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post 1642463953 07-09-2021, 01:45 AM
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Australian media is pushing pure propaganda about Covid at this point.

This morning in the news, I read that unless lockdowns are extended and mass vaccinations are implemented, there could be "mass hospitalisations" and "thousands and thousands of deaths".


Thousands and thousands of deaths.



Amount of deaths in the country in 2021 from COVID and/or the Delta Variant: 0.


0.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1642463983 07-09-2021, 01:48 AM
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Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1642464053 07-09-2021, 01:51 AM
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“At this point”

You mean “always was”
Plant the trees in whose shade your grandchildren will play
post 1642464143 07-09-2021, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
^^LOLOLOL.


This fukking dope finally figured out how full of chit the media is, yet spent over a year posting articles from NYTimes and Washington Post trying to tell us Americans that what he was reading was the absolute truth.
I've never, ever assumed or stated any media outlet was infallible, or gospel, or free of bias. Ever. Feel free to find my own words stating otherwise.




What I have argued is that there is a structural difference between the left and right wing media ecosystems. You'd know this if you followed my posts charitably instead of stuffing people into one-dimensional pigeonholes.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1642464183 07-09-2021, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
^^LOLOLOL.


This fukking dope finally figured out how full of chit the media is, yet spent over a year posting articles from NYTimes and Washington Post trying to tell us Americans that what he was reading was the absolute truth.
Lmao this. Wincel level troll, who I'm thinking is trying to get his reps up from unawares.
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post 1642464263 07-09-2021, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted By BigNik78
Lmao this. Wincel level troll, who I'm thinking is trying to get his reps up from unawares.
Dumb and old trick. Try to denigrate and run down someone's name by calling them a troll.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1642464313 07-09-2021, 02:02 AM
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It's ok ppl.

We all have realizations about things from time to time that can sometimes even radically change our views of things and/or wake us up to some major BS. It's OK to change your views over time as you learn new things. It's OK to say 'hey maybe I was wrong about that and maybe it's really like this instead.'

Hopefully OP is having a major realization that a whole lotta BS is going on about a whole lotta things.
post 1642464343 07-09-2021, 02:04 AM
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Imagine believing covid is fake but believing in the televised moon landing just lol
post 1642464383 07-09-2021, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
It's ok ppl.

We all have realizations about things from time to time that can sometimes even radically change our views of things and/or wake us up to some major BS. It's OK to change your views over time as you learn new things. It's OK to say 'hey maybe I was wrong about that and maybe it's really like this instead.'

Hopefully OP is having a major realization that a whole lotta BS is going on about a whole lotta things.
I'd like to see some evidence that I ever said the leftist media is infallible or free from bias.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1642464443 07-09-2021, 02:09 AM
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Cope or rope, kangaroocel.
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post 1642465423 07-09-2021, 03:11 AM
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I notice the dislikes on aussie youtube news channel to be atleast 2:1 dislikes to likes... atleast
post 1642465823 07-09-2021, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted By CopeFear
Cope or rope, kangaroocel.
Mirin copefear. Sydney is on the brink of collapse with the deadly delta variant but you just keep on keeping on. Degen maxxing all that really matters.
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I actually work in a health statistics field.

So far in 2021:

1 death from covid (caught last year): 24/7 coverage, lockdowns, hard borders between states, Australian citizens not allowed to return to the country

80,000 deaths from other causes: crickets
post 1642466123 07-09-2021, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
I actually work in a health statistics field.

So far in 2021:

1 death from covid (caught last year): 24/7 coverage, lockdowns, hard borders between states, Australian citizens not allowed to return to the country

80,000 deaths from other causes: crickets
How many vaccine deaths unreported?
post 1642466203 07-09-2021, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
I actually work in a health statistics field.

So far in 2021:

1 death from covid (caught last year): 24/7 coverage, lockdowns, hard borders between states, Australian citizens not allowed to return to the country

80,000 deaths from other causes: crickets
would love to know more about who you work for

- How do they obtain data?

- how many hands does it pass through?

- Who can manipulate the data?

- Does the data get audited by independent 3rd parties?

- From your best knowledge and experience how hard would it be to manipulate the data and submit to a media outlet?
post 1642466303 07-09-2021, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Kewbrah
I actually work in a health statistics field.

So far in 2021:

1 death from covid (caught last year): 24/7 coverage, lockdowns, hard borders between states, Australian citizens not allowed to return to the country

80,000 deaths from other causes: crickets
Australia and New Zealand just 2 cucked Chinese Provinces....UK not that far behind but more people just say fck it and do what they want anyway
post 1642466313 07-09-2021, 03:58 AM
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simulation 201 which was essentially a briefing on how world gov should handle a global pandemic is about all people need to know
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How is copefear still alive then? With all theAsianbodily fluids being flung at him like an over-zealous short order cook with a chip on his shoulder. Cholera and more profound diseases aside, you'd think he'd have swallowed covidmultipletimes.
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post 1642466413 07-09-2021, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
This morning in the news, I read that unless lockdowns are extended and mass vaccinations are implemented, there could be "mass hospitalisations" and "thousands and thousands of deaths".


Thousands and thousands of deaths.



Amount of deaths in the country in 2021 from COVID and/or the Delta Variant: 0.


0.
There could be tho. There were 35 new cases in Sydney. Remember how fast we went from 15 cases to thousands? This virus spreads very quickly. That's why the order was implemented.

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...es-2021-07-05/

It'a by the recommendation of Australian doctors and scientists.

In NSW, only 10% are vaccinated. It could spiral out of control fast.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...hnk/index.html
post 1642466803 07-09-2021, 04:23 AM
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yesterdays lockdown extension and todays increased restrictions is the straw that broke the camels back

ppl are pissed. family, mates that have avoided getting involved cos they don't wanna lose their business are messaging me saying enough is enough

hopefully its happening
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We had this argument last year. Remember when cases grew exponentially and everyone said it was no big deal?
post 1642466883 07-09-2021, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5
yesterdays lockdown extension and todays increased restrictions is the straw that broke the camels back

ppl are pissed. family, mates that have avoided getting involved cos they don't wanna lose their business are messaging me saying enough is enough

hopefully its happening
How has it affected the Aboriginal Brahs? are they locking down or still going walkabout
post 1642467123 07-09-2021, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel
There could be tho. There were 35 new cases in Sydney. Remember how fast we went from 15 cases to thousands? This virus spreads very quickly. That's why the order was implemented.

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...es-2021-07-05/

It'a by the recommendation of Australian doctors and scientists.

In NSW, only 10% are vaccinated. It could spiral out of control fast.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...hnk/index.html
My position is not so much that lockdowns are to be avoided at all costs, but that those who impose lockdowns have a steep burden of proof to meet. They need to show with tangible evidence, not speculation and possibilities, that there will be thousands of deaths and an overwhelmed health care system.


The policy initiatives are still based on one-dimensional models we know to be obsolete, so how does one meet that burden? Would Australia actually sufferthousandsof deaths, when we haven't had a single death this year, or only one from a case caught last year?
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1642467213 07-09-2021, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
This thread is getting good now. In for a wincel vs bodhy showdown.
Imagine the smell
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
How is copefear still alive then? With all theAsianbodily fluids being flung at him like an over-zealous short order cook with a chip on his shoulder. Cholera and more profound diseases aside, you'd think he'd have swallowed covidmultipletimes.
Drinking piss is the secret to longevity srs
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Drinking piss is the secret to longevity srs
This guy gets it *sips pee*
We’re all gonna make it.
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Originally Posted By wincel
There could be tho. There were 35 new cases in Sydney.Remember how fast we went from 15 cases to thousands? This virus spreads very quickly. That's why the order was implemented.

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...es-2021-07-05/

It'a by the recommendation of Australian doctors and scientists.

In NSW, only 10% are vaccinated. It could spiral out of control fast.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...hnk/index.html
Can you stop spewing the same fear mongering

before you utter anymore, look up the PCR test, who made it and what he had to say about how it can be used for making false positives
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
This morning in the news, I read that unless lockdowns are extended and mass vaccinations are implemented, there could be "mass hospitalisations" and "thousands and thousands of deaths".


Thousands and thousands of deaths.



Amount of deaths in the country in 2021 from COVID and/or the Delta Variant: 0.


0.
Dramatic update: An Australian died from Covid today!!!

Tragically taken from us at only 90 years old
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Originally Posted By Masterbetaaa
How many vaccine deaths unreported?
I haven't seen any formal reporting of them, though somebody could be looking at this internally/not public. We can read into that what we will.

Note that this sort of thing will can't be officially known until coronial investigations, which can take years. There are cases of people getting sick and dying shortly after the vaccines, including from known things like blood clots from AZ. But that doesn't prove it was because of the vaccine. Each case needs somebody to investigate whether that particular case was causal or coincidental.
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Originally Posted By LifeChoices
would love to know more about who you work for

- How do they obtain data?

- how many hands does it pass through?

- Who can manipulate the data?

- Does the data get audited by independent 3rd parties?

- From your best knowledge and experience how hard would it be to manipulate the data and submit to a media outlet?
Yeah not going to tell Misc who I work for sorry.

Official mortality statistics take years because of the time required for coronial rulings of cause of death for the interesting stuff (suicides, homocides, etc, and maybe (we will see) adverse effects of vaccines).

The stats that get reported in the Australian media are those released by a massive, complicated and often hostile network of federal and state bureacracies. My take would be that it would actually be really hard to manipulate under these arrangements, due to the sheer number of parties (many of them hostile to each other) who effectively have to sign off on each number.

That doesn't mean they are correct, or aren't subject to crucial assumptions eg the guidelines on whether to classify deaths with covid as deaths from covid etc. But speaking as someone extremely cynical of government behaviour, I suspect it would be hard for any individual party to manipulate these numbers.
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