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post 1647086673 09-15-2021, 12:08 PM
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Holy chit. I had no idea that every fukkin engineering company has a median tenure of 2-3 years. NO ONE is staying at their companies anymore. I understand this includes entry level positions, but jesus fukking christ. In discussions with my boss he just assumes I'm leaving soon. Guess I'll just start interviewing around lmao. After 3 years, I feel like I just got here.
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post 1647087203 09-15-2021, 12:15 PM
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boomer days of loyalty to a company are over boyo.

never forget, the company will replace you for cheaper labor in a second.
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post 1647087313 09-15-2021, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By LeakyQuesadilla⏩
boomer days of loyalty to a company are over boyo.

never forget, the company will replace you for cheaper labor in a second.
they actively try constantly
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post 1647087543 09-15-2021, 12:19 PM
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If I see 8 different jobs in 15 years, as a growing company, that's a strong way for me to not hire you. Or only hire you for one specific project and then let you go.
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post 1647087763 09-15-2021, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
If I see 8 different jobs in 15 years, as a growing company, that's a strong way for me to not hire you. Or only hire you for one specific project and then let you go.
Joke's on you: I would NEVER work for someone without a sig
post 1647087973 09-15-2021, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By donalduck⏩
Jake's on you: I would NEVER work for someone without a sig





@ OP was it worth it, buying it?
post 1647088043 09-15-2021, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By LeakyQuesadilla⏩
boomer days of loyalty to a company are over boyo.

never forget, the company will replace you for cheaper labor in a second.
Companies don't promote you or give good raises anymore. If you want a promotion or a decent raise, you pretty much have to get a new job...
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post 1647088053 09-15-2021, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By donalduck⏩
Joke's on you: I would NEVER work for someone without a sig
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post 1647088063 09-15-2021, 12:27 PM
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Yeah that's how it is in IT too OP. Once you've been with a company for 2-3 years, assuming you're doing what you need to do and getting new certs and staying in the loop on emerging tech, the inflation of your skillset is going to start to outstrip the inflation of your job title and salary.

It is what it is. I don't like changing jobs that much personally, but I'm not working for my phuckin' health boyo, so dem greener pastures are a-callin'.
post 1647088103 09-15-2021, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
If I see 8 different jobs in 15 years, as a growing company, that's a strong way for me to not hire you. Or only hire you for one specific project and then let you go.
I agree man. That's why this is so confusing. I'm all about "work somewhere for 5-7 years, get fully developed and contribute, then grow past the position" style advancement.

However, nearly no one in upper management at any corporation stays in position more than a few years.
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post 1647088213 09-15-2021, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By LeakyQuesadilla⏩
boomer days of loyalty to a company are over boyo.

never forget, the company will replace you for cheaper labor in a second.
Yup mine as well move around for top dollar every 2-3 years if you arent doing this you are getting shafted with BS 3% raises every year when you can jump ship and make 15-25% more.
Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
If I see 8 different jobs in 15 years, as a growing company, that's a strong way for me to not hire you. Or only hire you for one specific project and then let you go.
Thankfully its an employees market right now no one wants to work for your chitty company LOL
post 1647088313 09-15-2021, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By chaunce54⏩
Companies don't promote you or give good raises anymore. If you want a promotion or a decent raise, you pretty much have to get a new job...
I had to do that last job. This job promoted me within a year so I don't even feel out of place or undervalued. I am trying to return loyalty I was given, and I hope that makes a difference.
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post 1647088413 09-15-2021, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
Yeah that's how it is in IT too OP. Once you've been with a company for 2-3 years, assuming you're doing what you need to do and getting new certs and staying in the loop on emerging tech, the inflation of your skillset is going to start to outstrip the inflation of your job title and salary.

It is what it is. I don't like changing jobs that much personally, but I'm not working for my phuckin' health boyo, so dem greener pastures are a-callin'.
You also have the people who are incompetent and wear out their welcome by the two-year mark who end up bailing before they can get fired.
post 1647088433 09-15-2021, 12:32 PM
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I got about 20k in raises over the last 4.5 years with my current company (IT) after an 8k raise + better benefits to start there from my previous. I just got a new job that I accepted and will be starting on the 1st, and am getting about 20k raise. I don't understand why companies don't pay to keep you, they only pay to get you.
post 1647088653 09-15-2021, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By dcbone30⏩
I got about 20k in raises over the last 4.5 years with my current company (IT). I just got a new job that I accepted and will be starting on the 1st, and am getting about 20k raise. I don't understand why companies don't pay to keep you, they only pay to get you.
The same hiring manager will pay someone, nearly anyone outside the company, more than to keep someone.

It absolutely fukking boggles my mind. How does no one point this out at staff meetings? I am going to point it out employment security be damned. I got promoted with a %5 raise then another 2.5% yearly adjustment that should have been 3%. They said since I got a raise that I wouldn't get as much as an adjustment which is hilarious to say to people who work with numbers all day. I truly do not understand corporate america's mindset.

Its a complete fact in engineering that new hires are making more than people that have been at the company for 10 years lmao. I just assume people that stay that long have just given up.
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post 1647088713 09-15-2021, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
I had to do that last job. This job promoted me within a year so I don't even feel out of place or undervalued. I am trying to return loyalty I was given, and I hope that makes a difference.
I stayed at my last job for over five years because they treated me pretty good. I've been at my current job for 4 years now and it's the best place I've worked for, so I'm in no hurry to leave.
Originally Posted By dcbone30⏩
I got about 20k in raises over the last 4.5 years with my current company (IT). I just got a new job that I accepted and will be starting on the 1st, and am getting about 20k raise. I don't understand why companies don't pay to keep you, they only pay to get you.
I've also got about $20K in raises over the last 4 years, plus nearly $10K in bonuses.
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post 1647088883 09-15-2021, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
I agree man. That's why this is so confusing. I'm all about "work somewhere for 5-7 years, get fully developed and contribute, then grow past the position" style advancement.

However, nearly no one in upper management at any corporation stays in position more than a few years.
Yea, everyone is different. I've been with the same company for 11 years now, simply because I like who I work for, I like my colleagues, I like the work I do and the connections I've made, and I've grown within the company both professionally and salary wise. Upon the owner's retirement, me and another senior level coworker are on track to become partners.

But that's not for everyone. Some people need the change of scenery or see better chances of salary bumps changing companies as opposed to just asking your boss. But in my mind seeing a resume of 1 job for 10 years vs. 5 or 6 jobs for 10 years says more to me about the person than the companies (i.e. "Why'd you leave? What did you not like about the company?"). Chances are it's the common denominator (you). Not saying it's right or wrong, just that there's different types of people in the workforce.
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Thankfully its an employees market right now no one wants to work for your chitty company LOL
You ain't kidding
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post 1647089283 09-15-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By LeakyQuesadilla⏩
boomer days of loyalty to a company are over boyo.

never forget, the company will replace you for cheaper labor in a second.
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
they actively try constantly
Both undeniably correct.
post 1647089563 09-15-2021, 12:46 PM
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Updated my resume, applied, and got a new job with a $30k increase.

Sometimes there are other reasons why people leave, but money is always a bonus.
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post 1647089903 09-15-2021, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
The same hiring manager will pay someone, nearly anyone outside the company, more than to keep someone.

It absolutely fukking boggles my mind. How does no one point this out at staff meetings? I am going to point it out employment security be damned. I got promoted with a %5 raise then another 2.5% yearly adjustment that should have been 3%. They said since I got a raise that I wouldn't get as much as an adjustment which is hilarious to say to people who work with numbers all day. I truly do not understand corporate america's mindset.

Its a complete fact in engineering that new hires are making more than people that have been at the company for 10 years lmao. I just assume people that stay that long have just given up.
Yep. I came into my current company with 2 years of exp, and was making more than guys who had been there doing the same job for 4+ years. Totally asinine.
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Originally Posted By dcbone30⏩
Yep. I came into my current company with 2 years of exp, and was making more than guys who had been there doing the same job for 4+ years. Totally asinine.
Imagine being a part of the hiring process and not being able to do anything about it lol.

Last time, we hired someone internally and I threw down the gauntlet. I made sure it was not going to be a lateral move even at the same level, but alas, they merely gave him .5% more lmao.

The reasoning at the time is that we don't want to scalp from other internal depts. Paying someone not to leave will force the whole company to pay everyone more. You just have to pay new people more, and take advantage of those who stay.
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Same story in accounting. Basically have to jump every few years to keep up. Annoying as fuk srs
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
If I see 8 different jobs in 15 years, as a growing company, that's a strong way for me to not hire you. Or only hire you for one specific project and then let you go.
lol boomer boy, the only people not job hopping are the incompetent or already making 200k+ a year
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If companies think they're going to retain an employee at 3% raise annually when inflation is 8%, they're out of theirdamn mind.

If you're not moving companies every few years, you'll be doing your salary a dis-service. I'm making far more than when I first started in my career. I didn't do it by staying at one company with 3% raises. I asked for raises based on the work put in. When it doesn't pan out, the experience transfers to a new job and it's likely a 20% raise, rinse and repeat. I just started my 3rd job in 4 years. Last job change put me 112% above my starting salary coming out of college.
Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Paying someone not to leave will force the whole company to pay everyone more.
How would anyone else in the company know?
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post 1647094843 09-15-2021, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Depends on the company, I've been with mine for 10 years and am pretty content. Remote, six figures, maybe 10-20 hrs of work/week
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Originally Posted By LeakyQuesadilla⏩
boomer days of loyalty to a company are over boyo.

never forget, the company will replace you for cheaper labor in a second.
And yet people usually get more pay when they switch companies.
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