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post 1647244403 09-17-2021, 03:47 PM
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𝗥𝗶𝘀𝗸 𝗼𝗳 𝗖𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗱 𝗱𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗮 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗹𝘁𝗵𝘆 𝟯𝟬 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘀 𝗼𝗹𝗱

0.0004%. That is 1 in 250,000.



LOL @ anti-vaxcels. Better go get the jab before you get struck by lightning!
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post 1647244423 09-17-2021, 03:47 PM
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post 1647244463 09-17-2021, 03:48 PM
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the pfizer ceo is 52 and he even says he doesn't need the vaccine.
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ok but umm sweetie OP you could get covid and be fine but transfer it to someone else who contracts it and dies, mkay? Better go get the jab that allows you to still get the virus, show no symptoms, and can still pass it on to others anyways.








Wait, um...
post 1647244883 09-17-2021, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
ok but umm sweetie OP you could get covid and be fine but transfer it to someone else who contracts it and dies, mkay? Better go get the jab thatallows you to still get the virus, show no symptoms, and can still pass it on to others anyways.








Wait, um...


Yeah, stop being selfish!
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post 1647245493 09-17-2021, 04:10 PM
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I did a unvaxxed 30 year old, non-smoker, not fat

it's 1 in a million



https://covid19risktools.com:8443/riskcalculator
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
0.0004%. That is 1 in 250,000.



LOL @ anti-vaxcels. Better go get the jab before you get struck by lightning!
The liberal response would be “but what about the long haul symptoms/permanent organ damage”
post 1647245973 09-17-2021, 04:17 PM
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I figured there was no way the FDA would present such a chitty-looking slide, lets add a bit of context to this

This slide is actually from the "Open Public Hearing Session" in the FDA's meeting, so it's a portion where other people can present their opinions. The numbers shown in the slide are simply plucked from the Oxford COVID risk calculator

https://qcovid.org/Calculation

And it's being presented by an individual named Joseph Fraiman, an Emergency Medicine Physician in New Orleans who is arguing for larger booster trials to reduce vaccine hesitancy by showing the vaccines reduce hospitalization rates compared to COVID among younger and healthier people

His portion starts here @ 4:17:02 if the time stamped YouTube link doesn't work

post 1647246273 09-17-2021, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Bigbuster1⏩
I did a unvaxxed 30 year old, non-smoker, not fat

it's 1 in a million



https://covid19risktools.com:8443/riskcalculator
Careful these are not actually IFRs. It's risk of dying from covid, not risk of dying from covid infection.
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post 1647246633 09-17-2021, 04:27 PM
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Is there a reputable source for the overall fatality rate?
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but the boosters keep you safe

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post 1647247683 09-17-2021, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
So is the probability in the OP incorrect?
Based on whatever criteria the Oxford calculator uses, sure. I think one qualifier to add would be that this is a 90-day risk and not absolute risk.

But it's taken out of context and tweeted out as something it's not -- the presenter is looking for help to reduce vaccine hesitancy and is arguing for larger trials to show the vaccines are less risky than catching COVID. We know COVID isn't risky for healthy 30 year olds, he wants to show the vaccine is even less dangerous and thinks that will do something to alleviate hesitancy in low-risk groups.


Anyone can go to the Oxford calculator and plug in data to get similar numbers, presenting the slide next to FDA graphics and saying it's "from the FDA meeting" with zero context is at least slightly disingenuous
post 1647248433 09-17-2021, 04:57 PM
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[QUOTE=Bigbuster1 post_id=1647245493]I did a unvaxxed 30 year old, non-smoker, not fat

it's 1 in a million

[img]https://i.imgur.com/vTwoWmz.jpg[img]

[URL=https://covid19risktools.com:8443/riskcalculator]https://covid19risktools.com:8443/riskcalculator[/URL][/QUOTE]

What about 1-2 generations older? Most non-basement dwellers interact with people a generation or two older
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Please think about others around you, and get fully vaccinated ASAP.

One would think a virtue signalling pro-vaxxer would be fully vaccinated... But the fact is that you are not.


I'm good brah
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
So is the probability in the OP incorrect?
that's not the point. stop asking those kinds of questions, ****
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J-j-j-just get the fcking vaccine! You're literally killing people!
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post 1647249203 09-17-2021, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
I figured there was no way the FDA would present such a chitty-looking slide, lets add a bit of context to this

This slide is actually from the "Open Public Hearing Session" in the FDA's meeting, so it's a portion where other people can present their opinions. The numbers shown in the slide are simply plucked from the Oxford COVID risk calculator

https://qcovid.org/Calculation

And it's being presented by an individual named Joseph Fraiman, an Emergency Medicine Physician in New Orleans who is arguing for larger booster trials to reduce vaccine hesitancy by showing the vaccines reduce hospitalization rates compared to COVID among younger and healthier people

His portion starts here @ 4:17:02 if the time stamped YouTube link doesn't work

So the risk calculators provide accurate enough modelling to push the vaccine mandates onto everyone

But

When they are used to show how little risk covid poses to young healthy people they aren’t accurate enough

Gotcha
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How did you change the font??????
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps⏩
J-j-j-just get the fcking vaccine! You're literally killing people!
Even though I'm bigly unlikely to die from covid, I got the vax for a variety of reasons:

- Pneumonia and bronchitis suck, and I'd like to avoid them
- Covid affects your balls
- Even though breakthrough infections occur, I'm still less likely to contract it, and less likely to transmit it to my friends and family who are more vulnerable than us gay misogynistic racists
- Long covid is for proles
- etc

It was not a difficult decision to make.
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And yet college kids want MORE restrictions because some are getting sick. Mind you these are the ones with mask mandates, vaccine requirements. etc. We are doomed.
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Originally Posted By sfgiants13⏩
And yet college kids want MORE restrictions because some are getting sick. Mind you these are the ones with mask mandates, vaccine requirements. etc. We are doomed.
They're getting sick from the vaccine.
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Originally Posted By fballer12⏩
The liberal response would be “but what about the long haul symptoms/permanent organ damage”
do you remember in the OG thread the liberal shills were pushing long term lung damage and what not so hard.
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lol at them jabbing you with different vax manufacturers without testing LOL that this is accepted

brb

stick you with a random formula and if you die.

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Originally Posted By moosik85⏩
So the risk calculators provide accurate enough modelling to push the vaccine mandates onto everyone

But

When they are used to show how little risk covid poses to young healthy people they aren’t accurate enough

Gotcha
People working on official modeling ain't using online calculators, though maybe these calculators are based on the same assumptions/data feeding the models

Anyways the accuracy is fine and I doubt anyone would be surprised that a healthy 30-something female is at an extremely low risk of dying from COVID. The issue is with the way this slide is being presented in a tweet from some PhD who works in a completely unrelated field, omitting context and framing it as non-vaxx ammo when it's actually something another doctor used as part of his argument for larger booster trials that will show the vaccines are less risky than catching COVID even in people who are younger/healthier and thus already in low-risk categories. And the purpose of his argument is all about reducing vaccine hesitancy.

If Dr. Dumbo here actually watched the presentation, and I'd assume he did, then he already knows all this and his tweet is constructed with a clear intent. Anyone can go to these calculators and pump out similar numbers, but screenshots of numbers from online calculators don't carry the same weight or implications as a snip from a "FDA Meeting" and next to FDA graphics like it's some grand revelation. So much of this chit starts with a kernel of truth and then is twisted into something else entirely.


And the kernel of truth is that yes, a healthy 30-year-old female has an extremely low risk of dying from COVID. The vaccines will come with an even lower risk, and the doctor from New Orleans who presented this slide wants more data that he can use to convince his younger, healthier, vaccine-hesitant staff that the vaccines still make sense for them despite already not facing much of a threat from COVID.
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If this is true then why are they trying so hard to mandate it and force everyone to get it? I've never had covid and I never got the vaccine. I don't know if I've just been lucky or if I have some type of immunity to it
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Originally Posted By 8pieces⏩
How did you change the font??????
I'm a platinum member.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So are you getting fully vaxxed anytime soon, or are you a selfish person who doesn't care about granny?

Only in beaverland, and over there, you get virtue signalling cucks like our friend Destor here, who will actually defend that decision as "trusting the science". Didn't know politicians were considered scientists these days, but then again, seems like anything is possible in beaverland.
I'm not sure what additional risk you guys imagine would be associated with mixing the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer vs Moderna

I think the questions would be around the degree of immune response created by two mixed doses. But considering evidence is emerging that shows Moderna is superior in terms of providing longer-lasting protection, probably because it hits you with 3x the dose of the Pfizer vaccines, I'm probably better-defended than someone who has two Pfizer doses
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