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post 1651351383 11-23-2021, 09:58 AM
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New York Moves to Allow 800,000 Noncitizens to Vote in Local Elections

No longer need to be a citizen to vote in NYC. The day after they removed Thomas Jefferson from City Hall

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/n...ights-nyc.html
New York City lawmakers are poised to allow more than 800,000 New Yorkers who are green card holders or have the legal right to work in the United States to vote in municipal elections and for local ballot initiatives.

The bill, known as “Our City, Our Vote,” would make New York City the largest municipality in the country to allow noncitizens to vote in local elections.

The legislation, expected to be approved by the City Council on Dec. 9 by a veto-proof margin, comes as the country is dealing with a swath of new laws to impose voter restrictions, as well as the economic and demographic effects of a decline in immigration.

Voters in Alabama, Colorado and Florida passed ballot measures last year specifying that only U.S. citizens could vote. The states joined Arizona and North Dakota in specifying that noncitizens could not vote in state and local elections.

“It’s important for the Democratic Party to look at New York City and see that when voting rights are being attacked, we are expanding voter participation,” said Ydanis Rodriguez, a councilman who sponsored the bill and represents Washington Heights in Upper Manhattan.

The legislation, first introduced almost two years ago, is the culmination of more than a decade of work to gain local voting rights for some legal permanent residents. It also extends the right to those with work authorization, such as the so-called dreamers, recipients of a program known as DACA that shields young immigrants brought into the country illegally from deportation and allows them to live and work here.
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Of the estimated 808,000 adult New Yorkers who are lawful permanent residents, or green card holders, or have work authorization, about 130,000 are from the Dominican Republic; those from China represent another 117,500 people, according to the Mayor’s Office of Immigrant Affairs. Those eligible must be residents of New York City for 30 days and otherwise eligible to vote under state law.
In spite of having a veto-proof majority of 34 out of 51 City Council members and the public advocate co-sponsoring the bill, the legislation has not moved forward until now partly because of concerns about its legality. Mayor Bill de Blasio has contended that the change “has to be decided at state level, according to state law,” during a recent appearance on WNYC’s Brian Lehrer show.

The mayor also said he has “mixed feelings” about the bill because he feared that allowing noncitizens to vote might remove the incentive for people to become full citizens.
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they'll vote republican or working class
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Fkn lol america...


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What boggles me is why let the people vote if they don't even know what's best for themselves?

Only those with college diplomas should have voting rights.

The rest of yall can kiss my ass.
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I don't understand why dems think immigrants are progressive left. Most immigrants I know are conservative based on american standards. Progressive thinking person in asian would still be considered very conservative in US such as myself.
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Fukking Murica is tearing down the whole western civilization with it's corruption and fukk ups. Thanks a lot!
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How is this legal? ???


People should be outraged by this and ask for impeachments
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
What boggles me is why let the people vote if they don't even know what's best for themselves?

Only those with college diplomas should have voting rights.

The rest of yall can kiss my ass.
God no. Look at academia now. Full of retards teaching retards and repeating the cycle of liberal arts majors thinking they’re intelligent. I have a degree but there should be a political test you have to pass just to prove you actually are voting intelligently and not with your feels.
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Just fuggin lol at the left leaving the border open with 1.7 million crossing this year, only then to fly them around the country in the middle of the night, and now passing legislation in these chit holes to allow non-citizens to vote…ALL while red states and some swing states pass voting laws to protect the citizens vote. Just fuggin lol at the blatant power grabbing by Dems…all while bribing them with the potential to earn $450,000 from settlements.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
What boggles me is why let the people vote if they don't even know what's best for themselves?

Only those with college diplomas should have voting rights.

The rest of yall can kiss my ass.
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Originally Posted By EagleOfWar⏩
God no. Look at academia now. Full of retards teaching retards and repeating the cycle of liberal arts majors thinking they’re intelligent. I have a degree but there should be a political test you have to pass just to prove you actually are voting intelligently and not with your feels.
I highly disagree brah but I guess it also depends on the degree lol. Someone with a college education or degree is vastly superior to someone who doesn't have a degree when it comes to certain subjects non theless. College is a choice and it is hard work no matter how you cut it. Degree holders should be able to reap what they sow.

Also forget the liberal arts thing. I'm in cc right now taking taking associates of Arts classes and I've loved every single class so far. Sociology took me alot longer to understand but I'm really digging it now.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
What boggles me is why let the people vote if they don't even know what's best for themselves?

Only those with college diplomas should have voting rights.

The rest of yall can kiss my ass.
Only brainwashed people should have voting rights

fukn lol ok brah
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post 1651358153 11-23-2021, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
Only brainwashed people should have voting rights

fukn lol ok brah
Brah what are you talking about. I've learned nothing but useful stuff in cc. Art, biology, engineering, research etc.

The argument that supports only collegecels having a vote is overwhelmingly strong.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Brah what are you talking about. I've learned nothing but useful stuff in cc. Art, biology, engineering, research etc.

The argument that supports only collegecels having a vote is overwhelmingly strong.
There's literally no argument at all for that it's a load of bollocks. It's an insanely stupid idea.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
There's literally no argument at all for that it's a load of bollocks. It's an insanely stupid idea.
Zero backing to your statement. Zero.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
What boggles me is why let the people vote if they don't even know what's best for themselves?

Only those with college diplomas should have voting rights.

The rest of yall can kiss my ass.
You’d be better off just letting plumbers vote. Dead srs.
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Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
You’d be better off just letting plumbers vote. Dead srs.
Back handed comment with zero backing.
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“It’s important for the Democratic Party to look at New York City and see that when voting rights are being attacked, we are expanding voter participation,” said Ydanis Rodriguez, a councilman who sponsored the bill and represents Washington Heights in Upper Manhattan.

it's pretty crazy how you can actively campaign for a bill that's built on a lie, and outright say that you're only doing it to help your party..
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Originally Posted By TexasTechPharmD⏩
I don't understand why dems think immigrants are progressive left. Most immigrants I know are conservative based on american standards. Progressive thinking person in asian would still be considered very conservative in US such as myself.
Factually inaccurate. Biden won the asian/latino vote more than 2-1. Im still shocked people believe this^^

Fun Fact 1: Trump won the popular vote in 2016....with American born voters, but because the foreign born electorate is so large, they pushed it to Hillary.

Fun Fact 2: There wouldn't be a democratic party nationally without the immigrant/first generation vote. At best, all their nominees would be Bill Clinton light.
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Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
You’d be better off just letting plumbers vote. Dead srs.
I agree with this. Plumbers don't have degrees but they understand the value of hard work and the value of a dollar. They are also often small business owners who understand the impact new laws will have on their livelihood, over some retard who sits in an office and thinks we should give illegals more benefits, or pass an infrastructure bill that doesn't support infrastructure.

I'm a first generation immigrant, and offficecell btw, but hardcore righty. My moms generation that lived through the USSR are almost 100% conservative. However my cousins that grew up here are liberal.
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Originally Posted By Sterilite⏩
they'll vote republican or working class
Originally Posted By TexasTechPharmD⏩
I don't understand why dems think immigrants are progressive left. Most immigrants I know are conservative based on american standards. Progressive thinking person in asian would still be considered very conservative in US such as myself.
It's Legal Americans that want the dem hand outs and to relay on the government.. immigrants who came over want none of that ****
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Only applies to those with green cards, so not just random illegal immigrants.

And its only for local elections. I think you brahs are blowing it way outta proportion.



Maybe the foreigners can vote for a mayor who isnt a complete clown this time lol... like the american citizens did.
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Originally Posted By roko79⏩
I agree with this. Plumbers don't have degrees but they understand the value of hard work and the value of a dollar. They are also often small business owners who understand the impact new laws will have on their livelihood, over some retard who sits in an office and thinks we should give illegals more benefits, or pass an infrastructure bill that doesn't support infrastructure.

I'm a first generation immigrant, and offficecell btw, but hardcore righty. My moms generation that lived through the USSR are almost 100% conservative. However my cousins that grew up here are liberal.
That's quite generous of you to think that way. And understandably so. However, college teaches you focused and direct knowledge on certain things that cannot be learned when you are doing plumbing. Although it is a humble job, it does not deserve the power vote. That is like giving a child a gun because he's a good kid who gets good grades.
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Why not just let other countries directly vote in our elections?
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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the parasite comes in and votes for more free **** for itself
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I could imagine a situation where legit immigrants who already have a green card and are well on the road to getting citizenship getting a say in just their local politics. But I doubt this is just about that.
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