I've been trying to ween off my medications, specifically nose spray and claritin in the mornings.

I did two weeks at a prefabrication shop but work was slow and I couldn't stand just standing around making small talk all day.

I hope this job is on site, which would be better for my situation. As people say, a rolling stone gathers no moss.

The pay is lower but it's residential/commercial so that's expected.


Looking for some advice. Should I start the otrivin and clarintin again?

electrician apprentice?

gjdm. thinking about doing the same thing to get my electrical license. need 4 years of experience though.

Wait, did you already leave that job?

Yeah first yearWell yea but I did gain lots of experience.

Learned how to make stub 90s and also offsets

Bump.

progress pics?

Curious if you know.. do you know if marine has different requirements for journeyman?

Like if I got marine experience right now whether those hours go toward journeyman?

I kind of want to spread my wings toward making boats and rv's, so I can get boats and vehicles under my belt. Then come back around and go either to a place that does residential/ commercial or maybe dabble in industrial. But I plan on just getting my journeyman and hoping my side stuff does well

why would the pay be lower on a millionaire dollar job site?

We need a tradie sub forum

190 lbs, that's a xl shirt lolNot sure man but highly unlikely that army exp would go towards your logged hours, unless maybe if you already have data/comm experience.

I did work with a lineman that was in the army thoughResidential/commerical is usually lower than industrial.

Not sure about this company's projects because their site is down.Inb4 logoutbrah tradie gifs.

please, the next job you get stick it out for at least 6 months. and don't leave the job until you get a better job.

He's a lost cause mane.

Thank you for the great advice.Hey man, i always have a willingness to learn.

I know we've been through a couple neg wars, but honestly you're a great miscer and it breaks my heart a guy like you keeps shooting me down.

Marine is its own classification in most places from what I know.

I wouldn’t make a career out of non union work opie unless you think you have what it takes to run your own successful business.

Don’t be one of those people who bitch about capping at 30/$hr but then say “hur dur ibew bad ibew bad” with no real arguments

Don’t stay in the field when you get old , move over to the engineering side/PM/Super side of things

that's kinda what i think too. we had a guy from our trade school that supposedly worked on submarines and he was there saying he had no experience in any of the stuff we were doing

it's mostly dc as well when other stuff would ac

but the boat place im thinking of wouldn't be military/ or subs.. it'd be a boat maker

ive asked a few people and they didn't know and i kinda want to know before i set up an interview

500 MCM isn't good for 400 amps anymore, it makes me so sad.

RESI sucks.

I have a few financial companies, high end hotels and high end retail that pay well and have good work. It can be a career or a stepping stone to something else.

nice glad to hear.

got a second interview Wednesday. water treatment plant, great reviews on indeed.

Do you know what water treatment plants smell like in the summer... Poo. Because they take poo out of water.

I actually wouldn't mind it, remember being in a treatment plant when I was younger, everything probably is neatly done.

Will do, thanks mane

When you say residential are you talking service? Or more new construction?

I Def. Think resi is harder than commercial. Though it's not higher voltages

We had a guy with 30 year experience commercial that got fired cause he couldn't handle residential. I was in his van and I think he knew he was gonna get fired. He said he wasn't good at this stuff

I think what we were doing was harder though cause other guys from the company I talked to said it was harder than their previous electric jobs. Lots of custom chit

Never done industrial though. Guy from trade school was/ is in industrial and he was making 150k 1 year out of it. Though lots of long hours and overtime

Residential, imo, is more barebones than commercial. Like we had training at the polytech school and it was just pretty much resi with studs and framing and you working on receptacles and pull wire with everything done according to code. The teacher at the school did residential when he first started out and he said it's all about how many you can bang out day in and day out.

When I was working for an utilities company, I ran across a couple of dudes from school working on new construction homes. They seemed to like it.

Of course, the younger you are (fresher out of school) then the more likely you have the endurance for residential. My instructor was in comp sci and started electrical after the tech bust and said his back would hurt after a day's work and needed to be foam rolled. But generally, carrying heavy stuff like bundles of pipe and other equipment all day can also contribute to more wear and tear on the body.


At the pre fabrication shop, I was bending pipe all day and bulked on my parent's food, rested and aimed for 7-8 hours of solid sleep. Would wake up intermittently through out the night but I guess sleep was good because after the first week I started to get muscle gains, and adapted to the higher industrial workload. Arms, shoulders, back and the erectors were all improved, which is nice from a bodybuilding perspective.

Huh. Yea I guess that doesn't sound like my experience with residential. Mine was different. What you described sounds like new construction to me.

I've tried to ask other guys to get a grasp on commercial. Just trying to feel it out based on other people

Where I worked we did mostly commercial and residential, but commercial was condos. Sorta similar to residential but metal boxes and metal framing and studs + Mc over Romex. No emt. It was plastic smurf and pvc most of the time. Only emt were like old buildings where it already existed

I feel like what I ascertained about commercial was.. basically they're bigger jobs and more consistent, so you show up to the same spot all the time. There's more code, so a little less flexibility work wise. But it's highly repeated as well. So more boring in a sense. Unless you think higher voltage is less boring

We were mainly doing high end remodels which had custom work and service troubleshooting. Tons of little nuances, though. I think residential has the propensity for more nuance cause all of the stuff homeowners can buy. Commercial has to stick to more regimented code

Idk, just my opinion from what I experienced. We had that guy I talked about before and then before I left we had guys leaving their commercial jobs for us.

The commercial guy said he liked the plans/ showing up to the same spot everyday, etc. Over residential which was a tad more chaotic

Ive heard new construction is easiest. It's like where you have all the wooden studs and are just nailing the plastic boxes and running wire.

Maybe I shouldn't define my experience as residential because technically the place I was at did all 3, but another harder part to me was like opening up a box and seeing 7 wires coming in and not knowing how the other person before you wired it. So then you have to find out where it goes before you can even start

The best & easiest trade is Insulator. All you need is a pool pole, some knives, & a driver.

Making 42/hr. Union

Good luck brother!

Yea new construction I worked on, building dormitories and office trailers.

I guess categorizing whether a job is resi, comm, or industrial is strictly not enough. I did all three too lol.

nicethanks bro, gonna try my hardest!

Yea, man a bunch of bull chit. Ive tried go figure it out

Buncha bull chit about pay too. I could buy industrial paying most but prob at the expense of less time

I think residential lends itself more toward side work though. It's good to have residential experience for that as I'm sure those purely commercial couldn't or rather shouldn't do side work unfamiliar with residential

Yeah it's interesting because if a sparky does his 4 years and gets a jman ticket, he is only good as his experience. I wonder whether a jman gets specific on the job training too or really most of electrical is familiar enough, such as reading prints, etc.

I did well in school, got a 90% in my first period trade qualifications, I know at the pre fab shop dudes passed the school exam but not the provincial one.

Here in Florida I think it's more loosey-goosey. It's prob more structured with union involved. Which I think it typically is up north

In Florida you don't have to get your journeyman for masters. You can just get your masters straight but it cost a few g's plus you have to have insurance or something

At my place, NONE of the "leads" had a journeyman. I planned on doing so anyways. But I tried to find out whether they were too stupid to pass the test, whether they were being legit, or whether the owner from where I was at convinced them it wasn't necessary. To possibly keep them lower paid

But I honestly think they were too fuking stupid. Except maybe 1 guy. But I had heard a guy who'd been there for like 30 years didn't pass it twice

So at my place it seemed kind of unstructured the way they were trained and it was a "feel" thing and you'd slowly start to take on more. So eventually, yea, you'd become a "journeyman" and were still learning

But here in Florida, even though those guys had 20 years on me I don't think technically they had any distinction beyond me other than time. No official designation or set title

We were both in the same echelon officially

But yea maybe after a year or two of being a "journeyman" you'd be so familiar with all of the stuff that you'd have learned everything