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post 1652356383 12-11-2021, 11:06 AM
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Intelligent disucssion about calling fat fcks what they are for their own good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqkxDi473v4


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post 1652356973 12-11-2021, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
people do all sorts of unhealthy things like drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes. and yet nobody wants to be shamed because we live in a free society. just like a fat person doesn't want to be shamed, because it's their body, they can do whatever they want with it.

unhealthy behavior is only ever a problem when it involves fat people. talking about health and government dollars are just excuses to cover up that they are being judgmental azzholes.
So now you're judging fat shaming
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post 1652357063 12-11-2021, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
people do all sorts of unhealthy things like drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes. and yet nobody wants to be shamed because we live in a free society. just like a fat person doesn't want to be shamed, because it's their body, they can do whatever they want with it.

unhealthy behavior is only ever a problem when it involves fat people. talking about health and government dollars are just excuses to cover up that they are being judgmental azzholes.
Plenty of people shame alcoholics and smokers, wtf are you on about. If you do any of those vices in excess people are going to be disgusted by you.
post 1652357103 12-11-2021, 11:19 AM
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Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
post 1652357193 12-11-2021, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted By LethalGunz34
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
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post 1652357213 12-11-2021, 11:21 AM
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morbidly obese is a medical term, if it upsets peoples fee fees then tough,smokers are smokers, drinkers are drinkers/alcoholics if over done, and drug addict are drug addicts


call things what they are
post 1652357983 12-11-2021, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
this is bullchit. smoking and drinking are glorified in society. go to any college campus, it's "cool" to get drunk and smoke cigarettes. nobody is walking around shaming college students for drinking too much.
Smoking and drinking in moderation is okay, much like eating in moderation is okay. Do them in excess and people are disgusted by you. Check the homeless people under the overpass drunk at 10 AM, or the woman with the "virginia slim" voice.
post 1652358113 12-11-2021, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
morbidly obese is a medical term, if it upsets peoples fee fees then tough,smokers are smokers, drinkers are drinkers/alcoholics if over done, and drug addict are drug addicts


call things what they are
I can't imagine caring so much about how strangers live their lives... must be nice to have your own house in order to the point you have time to worry about other peoples' houses.
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post 1652358533 12-11-2021, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
I can't imagine caring so much about how strangers live their lives... must be nice to have your own house in order to the point you have time to worry about other peoples' houses.
we do not live in isolation and what others do impacts society, a massive amount of public health money is spent on managing the health impact of obesity...a self inflicted condition so that affect me doesn't it
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I don't agree with fat shaming but I am very against the body positivity/healthy/beautiful at any size movement. I think it's doing a huge disservice to people. People should be encouraged to be at a healthy weight rather than encouraged to be obese.

Also adding for Donny. Smoking is a disgusting habit and excess drinking is no good either.
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I am an alcoholic, I do not promote it and do not think it is good. Despite being that, I am very physically capable. Got straddle planche and half lay dragon press yesterday (not dragon flag....PRESS...way harder), will be doing full front lever after pull ups today. Internally, probably not that healthy. Muscle wise...set...strong as fukc and very lean.

Fat people that go on about healthy at any weight....NO. Just stop it. Don't promote that sht. It is not OK.
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
maybe you are just a piece of chit, because i'm not "disgusted" by homeless people. if anything, i feel pity and i try to help whenever i can. because i understand that life is hard and not everybody comes from a good background.
I don't really care what you think of me. Congrats on your minimal exposure to homeless people btw. You are truly virtuous.
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
people do all sorts of unhealthy things like drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes. and yet nobody wants to be shamed because we live in a free society. just like a fat person doesn't want to be shamed, because it's their body, they can do whatever they want with it.

unhealthy behavior is only ever a problem when it involves fat people. talking about health and government dollars are just excuses to cover up that they are being judgmental azzholes.
This is a really interesting point and one that I've heard talked about.

Ok so why do we ridicule overweight people and not people with other unhealthy vices?

The answer may surprise you, at 11.

Ok it's 11. the answer is, because our genetic memory tells us to give room to unhealthy poeple who would still make for a good hunting partner or warrior.

very very overweight and unhealthy people that would make for poor hunters or warriors are not the same as very very overweight people who have an appropriate ratio of fat to muscle.
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
to add to this - nobody is saying that being fat is "healthy". everybody knows being overweight increases the risk of health problems.

people are saying that it's possible to be fat and happy, which is true. being happy is a choice. whether i'm fat or i'm fit, i can choose to be happy. just cause i'm fat doesn't mean i have to live my life being miserable. but unfortunately people out there like to make people feel bad about being fat.
I would never tell someone that they shouldn't be happy or that they should be miserable. I don't think that's what the OP was talking about. There are plenty of overweight/obese people who do push the healthy at any size thing.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
we do not live in isolation and what others do impacts society, a massive amount of public health money is spent on managing the health impact of obesity...a self inflicted condition so that affect me doesn't it
We're at a weird inflection point in human history where food is abundant, leisure time is abundant, and much of the workforce now works sedentary cubicle jobs. On top of that, we have all sorts of things being introduced into the food supply by Globohomo Inc. that seem to be exacerbating the problem (e.g. HF Corn Syrup). The explosion in obesity isn't due to a whole bunch of lazy people being born all of the sudden... it's due to a lifestyle change for most of the western world that is wholly different from that of humans in the past. People (as a whole) are still adapting to these changes. Add into that a whole bunch of societal changes (fewer stay-at-home moms cooking meals and more people grabbing fast food out of convenience, etc.) and you have a recipe for people getting obese easier than in centuries past. In 1800, it was hard work to get enough calories in your diet. In 2021, it's hard work to avoid getting too many.
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
nobody is telling fat people they should be miserable deliberately. but the comments fat people receive implies that they should be unhappy.

imagine you are feeling happy and having a good day and then somebody makes fun of you for being fat. you could be happy with yourself, but somebody out there is gonna try to point out a flaw to make you feel bad.
Well I already said in my first post that I don't agree with fat shaming.
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
people do all sorts of unhealthy things like drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes. and yet nobody wants to be shamed because we live in a free society. just like a fat person doesn't want to be shamed, because it's their body, they can do whatever they want with it.

unhealthy behavior is only ever a problem when it involves fat people. talking about health and government dollars are just excuses to cover up that they are being judgmental azzholes.
Naw.. health and government dollars are perfectly jusitified.
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Being unhealthy is just fine, as long as you aren't contagious. Then it's criminal.
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
this is bullchit. smoking and drinking are glorified in society. go to any college campus, it's "cool" to get drunk and smoke cigarettes. nobody is walking around shaming college students for drinking too much.
Lol @ this fat phuck trying to deflect and change the subject.
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky
except people only talk about health and government dollars when it involves fat people.

any other vice like alcohol or smoking? nobody really cares that those also cost government dollars.
You never saw Big Tobbacy lawsuits?
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqkxDi473v4


interdasting , good luck fatties no matter what we call you ...........you are in trouble
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
morbidly obese is a medical term, if it upsets peoples fee fees then tough,smokers are smokers, drinkers are drinkers/alcoholics if over done, and drug addict are drug addicts


call things what they are
This pretty much should end the thread.

We have specific ways to quantify when someone's BMI is too high/low to classify them as such. It's not perfect, but if you couple that with bodyfat %, and blood tests for what's deficient or opposite, then you've got most of what you need to know.

If you're 5'10 and 210 with a high body fat percentage, you're a fatty obese.

Same for alcoholism. If you drink till you're 0.08 or higher BAC, then you're "very impaired". And if you do this often, you're an alcoholic.

If you smoke tobacco routinely, you're a smoker. This one's harder to quantify though. I smoked a couple of cigarellos per week for some years and remember quitting with zero withdrawl issues / cravings, never got addicted. Maybe if you're a half pack or more a day smoker then you're a smoker, IDK.
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