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post 1652717903 12-17-2021, 01:49 PM
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Are steroids technically addictive substances if you think about it?

I mean once someone starts using they become addicted to the look and feel that to they experience on gear. Non natties struggle to get the same satisfaction out of natty bbing after they experience what they can achieve on gear.

It's would be like trying to get it hard for a 5/10 after banging nothing but 10/10 models for the last year.
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post 1652717983 12-17-2021, 01:51 PM
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No I’ve done basically every drug besides the stupid ones. And have done most steroids.

It’s easy as hell and takes 0 will power to come off or drop down to 100mg a week.
post 1652718143 12-17-2021, 01:54 PM
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Absolutely. With achievement comes dopamine response...when you're seeing the gains on such a rapid level and in such quickfire response to the work you put in(if you're a natural responder to steroids...not everyone is a natural responder to steroids) of course you're going to feel addicted.

Even moreso if you post endless social media posts of your results and you've got endless DM's coming in from guys and some girls asking you your workout routine how much you bench not to mention the feeling of being massive and imposing...it COULD become an addiction. Is it an addiction in the same way alcohol/drugs are? NO. You won't' have the same kind of physiological responses and withdrawal symptoms going clean from steroids as you would with drugs/alcohol. but nonetheless the dopamine your receive from blowing up so quickly and getting attention could lead to an addiction.
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post 1652718373 12-17-2021, 01:57 PM
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Testosterone increases dopamine so yes.
post 1652718393 12-17-2021, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Fitnessguy24
Absolutely. With achievement comes dopamine response...when you're seeing the gains on such a rapid level and in such quickfire response to the work you put in(if you're a natural responder to steroids...not everyone is a natural responder to steroids) of course you're going to feel addicted.

Even moreso if you post endless social media posts of your results and you've got endless DM's coming in from guys and some girls asking you your workout routine how much you bench not to mention the feeling of being massive and imposing...it COULD become an addiction. Is it an addiction in the same way alcohol/drugs are? NO. You won't' have the same kind of physiological responses and withdrawal symptoms going clean from steroids as you would with drugs/alcohol. but nonetheless the dopamine your receive from blowing up so quickly and getting attention could lead to an addiction.
the vanity of it

guys like jeff seid, chestbrah, all psychologically damaged
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Uhhh yea thats why they say there is no turning back once you go down that path.
post 1652718643 12-17-2021, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Beararms
Uhhh yea thats why they say there is no turning back once you go down that path.
That’s true if you define your self image with your physique/lifting prowess

But take a look at Pete rubish. Who I actually believe came off entirely. He’s back down under 700 pound deadlift. When he was over 900 at peak.

It’s not hard to revert if you’re normal. But if you’re like chestbrah and already mentally/emotionally damaged then yeah it’s hard
post 1652718793 12-17-2021, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3
the vanity of it

guys like jeff seid, chestbrah, all psychologically damaged
man let's make no mistake...not all guys who seem to be on juice ARE juicing..I know it seems preposterous to assume that those guys are natural but you don't realize the natural potential some guys have. Lots of those guys are extremely dedicated and live/sleep/eat bodybuilding to the point where they track their heart rate during cardio....and I do believe jeff seid is one of those guys...I don't think he's juicing. He was blessed with an extremely aesthetic physique and naturally low bodyfat and when you are low bodyfat everything looks bigger. A LOT bigger.

Trust me...when I was 180 pounds people thought I was 210 pounds...because i was so lean...and if you've got a small waist/wide lats that in itself is deceiving because it makes guys look 20-30 pounds bigger than they are.
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post 1652718833 12-17-2021, 02:05 PM
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They're likely only addictive to those with narcissistic tendies and self-image issues.
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post 1652718913 12-17-2021, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag
That’s true if you define your self image with your physique/lifting prowess

But take a look at Pete rubish. Who I actually believe came off entirely. He’s back down under 700 pound deadlift. When he was over 900 at peak.

It’s not hard to revert if you’re normal. But if you’re like chestbrah and already mentally/emotionally damaged then yeah it’s hard
Yea you can say that about any substance though. It is possible to go off cold turkey but a chit ton of people don't because its addicting.

How long did it take Pete for his t levels to get back to normal or is he on trt?
post 1652718923 12-17-2021, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Beararms
Uhhh yea thats why they say there is no turning back once you go down that path.
This

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post 1652718953 12-17-2021, 02:07 PM
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The real question is what if you don't think about it?
post 1652719013 12-17-2021, 02:08 PM
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roiding is complete cope real talk, glad I gave it up long ago. only exception is a legitimate doctors prescribed trt dosage
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Originally Posted By Beararms
Yea you can say that about any substance though. It is possible to go off cold turkey but a chit ton of people don't because its addicting.

How long did it take Pete for his t levels to get back to normal or is he on trt?
I believe his T is still low af. Not on trt iirc

But I would liken coming off gear to more like coming off weed. There can be addictive properties. But I don’t think it’s that hard
post 1652719253 12-17-2021, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag
I believe his T is still low af. Not on trt iirc

But I would liken coming off gear to more like coming off weed. There can be addictive properties. But I don’t think it’s that hard
That is really dependent on the person. If it were that easy a lot of people would stop abusing substances completely knowing how bad they are for them but they don't and that's why we have so many programs to try and help.
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag
I believe his T is still low af. Not on trt iirc

But I would liken coming off gear to more like coming off weed. There can be addictive properties. But I don’t think it’s that hard
not true brah. Joe rogan himself who is an avid week smoker said he had vivid dreams after he quit smoking weed for 30 days during sober october.

When you're in doubt about something look to your sleep/dream patterns. For real.

When your mind is physically addicted to something your sleep/dreams will mirror that addiction.

So while I may agree that being "addicted" to testosterone can cause mental problems it's not the same as ingesting a foreign substance such as weed...testosterone is all natural and even a guy who uses could still be within normal ranges or slightly above average.
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