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post 1653535993 01-01-2022, 08:55 AM
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Vioxx: FDA Approved; 40,000 to 60,000 Americans Killed

Hmm...I wonder why PhDs are some of the people most hesitant to get these new mrna injections?



Cliffs:

- no more effective than existing drugs
- rolled out on the promise of lower stomach upset
- data that was against the drug [3 cardiac deaths] was omitted/ignored
- on the market for a bit over 4 years
- estimated death toll in the US 40,000 to 60,000
- Merck still netted about $1 billion dollars after paying out damages
- no one was sent to jail

Just saw the clip. Feel like I should carve out time to listen to the entire podcast.
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post 1653536123 01-01-2022, 08:58 AM
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Just the tip op
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Go read the book "ending medical reversal"

It should be mandatory for all govt officials before suggesting any mandates on rushed treatments.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Go read the book "ending medical reversal"

It should be mandatory for all govt officials before suggesting any mandates on rushed treatments.
Probably. Just watched this clip too.



Essentially the drug companies give bad information to doctors and doctors "believe the science".

- Drug overdose the leading cause of death ages 18 to 49.

- US dead last at preventing deaths in the same age group due to preventable causes.
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post 1653536763 01-01-2022, 09:14 AM
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you still haven't figured this thing out have you katya?
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Where are you seeing that PhDs are the most hesitant toward getting an mRNA vaccine?
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I didn't listen to the video but remember the VIOXX tragedy. The company that made VIOXX just made up some of the studies used to approve the drug. The studies hadn't been done. They were created by the marketing department at Merck.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Where are you seeing that PhDs are the most hesitant toward getting an mRNA vaccine?
Forget about phDs... The #1 and #2 people in the FDA resigned over pressure to approve boosters through EUA.

Political pressure within these administrations is a massive problem.
post 1653537143 01-01-2022, 09:22 AM
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The people I knew in college who wanted to go after a PHD were all afraid of the real world. They were intelligent but way too comfortable with what they perceived as the safety and stability of the ivory tower of collegiate education. We had teammates for projects, and one of my partners in a class had laid out his path intentionally so he would never leave university.

I'm not terribly interested or impressed with PHD's. Sure there are some brilliant ones, but there are a lot more timothies.
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking
The people I knew in college who wanted to go after a PHD were all afraid of the real world. They were intelligent but way too comfortable with what they perceived as the safety and stability of the ivory tower of collegiate education. We had teammates for projects, and one of my partners in a class had laid out his path intentionally so he would never leave university.

I'm not terribly interested or impressed with PHD's. Sure there are some brilliant ones, but there are a lot more timothies.
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post 1653537633 01-01-2022, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Forget about phDs... The #1 and #2 people in the FDA resigned over pressure to approve boosters through EUA.

Political pressure within these administrations is a massive problem.
I was just asking about the OP's statement:
Originally Posted By katya422
Hmm...I wonder why PhDs are some of the people most hesitant to get these new mrna injections?
post 1653537993 01-01-2022, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted By messomi
you still haven't figured this thing out have you katya?
Do you mean I haven't made a firm conclusion if these events are unfolding as the agendas of multiple amoral self-interested parties collide into an epic clusterf*ck, or if there is some kind of actual guiding hand at work intentionally breaking the world?

- skeptical
- pragmatic
- open minded

I can conclude that the effects are evil [damage being done across multiple dimensions [health, wealth, human rights, etc.]. And the concentration of too much money and too much power into to few hands appears undeniable.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I was just asking about the OP's statement:
No, you were just trying to start some BS back and forth to derail the thread. F*ck off already.
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post 1653538123 01-01-2022, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted By katya422
No, you were just trying to start some BS back and forth to derail the thread. F*ck off already.
Scepticism of pharma companies makes sense. I think we should all be sceptical of taking marketing messages at face value.

But, I think you were attempting to appeal to an authority with no support. If we're going to untangle false marketing claims, should we use false statements in the process? I think using false statements to increase the impact takes away from the message of the argument.
post 1653538233 01-01-2022, 09:49 AM
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Opiod deaths are not comparable. People died from overdoses
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Scepticism of pharma companies makes sense. I think we should all be sceptical of taking marketing messages at face value.

But, I think you were attempting to appeal to an authority with no support. If we're going to untangle false marketing claims, should we use false statements in the process? I think using false statements to increase the impact takes away from the message of the argument.
Not tonight dear, I've got a headache.

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post 1653538463 01-01-2022, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Azrairc
Opiod deaths are not comparable. People died from overdoses
Two different things.

- Vioxx: anti-inflammatory that caused blood clots/cardiac deaths

- Oxycontin: opioid that was marketed at non-addictive and safe to prescribe for all kinds of pain; actually was addictive and didn't last for 12 hours which is how it was presented to physicians
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post 1653538663 01-01-2022, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted By katya422
Not tonight dear, I've got a headache.

It's morning here
Originally Posted By katya422
Two different things.

- Vioxx: anti-inflammatory that caused blood clots/cardiac deaths

- Oxycontin: opioid that was marketed at non-addictive and safe to prescribe for all kinds of pain; actually was addictive and didn't last for 12 hours which is how it was presented to physicians
Plus a 3rd different thing, mRNA vaccines
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watch this video katya it's only 2 min.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/jZIqRhiQtnyw/
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Scepticism of pharma companies makes sense. I think we should all be sceptical of taking marketing messages at face value.

But, I think you were attempting to appeal to an authority with no support. If we're going to untangle false marketing claims, should we use false statements in the process? I think using false statements to increase the impact takes away from the message of the argument.
OP made a thread about the world running out of food during the height of pandemic hysteria. Posted some random link. 0 credibility.
post 1653540343 01-01-2022, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
Here's an interesting study from Columbia University you might want to read OP


https://www.researchgate.net/publica...mortality_risk
??

This thread is about vioxx/FDA failures, long-term medical reversal, and pressure.
post 1653540473 01-01-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
??

This thread is about vioxx/FDA failures, long-term medical reversal, and pressure.
This thread was based on trying to conflate those with covid mRNA vaccines with a baseless statement.
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
I didn't feel like making a new thread and thought OP would like to know that there is now conclusive evidence of 6 figure jabbie deaths in America alone
That's not what the paper you linked reports.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Where are you seeing that PhDs are the most hesitant toward getting an mRNA vaccine?
Did op answer this?
post 1653541683 01-01-2022, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Did op answer this?
This was the response:
Originally Posted By katya422
Not tonight dear, I've got a headache.

post 1653545223 01-01-2022, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Did op answer this?
It was an introductory sentence to increase reader interest by tying in the presented topic to current events.

The broader topic of the linked clips is that scientific studies are being manipulated to produce conclusions beneficial to pharmaceutical interests.

There was a previously posted news item stating that the least educated and most educated were those least likely to be getting the experimental injections.

I believe it follows that people directly involved in acquiring funding for scientific studies, designing and running studies and in reading published results are also most likely to have some awareness of the pressures brought to bear on publishing acceptable results, therefore more likely to be skeptical about believing *the science*.

It's a post on a forum, not an opening statement for the high school debate team.

Originally Posted By Mogambo
OP made a thread about the world running out of food during the height of pandemic hysteria. Posted some random link. 0 credibility.
I recall posting one or two food related videos which IIRC were from a youtuber in the UK and a channel called EpicEconomics [or some such] which were mainly about food shortages due to interruptions in the supply chain.

No idea what that has to do with an interview clip about the pharmaceutical industry and their shady practices.
Originally Posted By J.L.C.
That's not what the paper you linked reports.
What paper are you reading?

US national average VFR of 0.04% and higher VFR with age (VFR=0.004% in ages 0-17 increasing to 0.06% in ages >75 years), and 146K to 187K vaccine-associated US deaths between February and August, 2021
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Originally Posted By katya422
It was an introductory sentence to increase reader interest by tying in the presented topic to current events.

The broader topic of the linked clips is that scientific studies are being manipulated to produce conclusions beneficial to pharmaceutical interests.

There was a previously posted news item stating that the least educated and most educated were those least likely to be getting the experimental injections.

I believe it follows that people directly involved in acquiring funding for scientific studies, designing and running studies and in reading published results are also most likely to have some awareness of the pressures brought to bear on publishing acceptable results, therefore more likely to be skeptical about believing *the science*.

It's a post on a forum, not an opening statement for the high school debate team.





I recall posting one or two food related videos which IIRC were from a youtuber in the UK and a channel called EpicEconomics [or some such] which were mainly about food shortages due to interruptions in the supply chain.

No idea what that has to do with an interview clip about the pharmaceutical industry and their shady practices.



What paper are you reading?

It has to do with your credibility and how you clearly have a skewed way of looking at matters of public policy.
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And that thread you posted about food shortages was a doomsday scenario. Mods deleted it. Height of covid hysteria and the unknown of what it is and you post a fringe website saying that stores will not have any food. FOH with that.
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Originally Posted By katya422
It was an introductory sentence to increase reader interest by tying in the presented topic to current events.
It's an untrue statement employed as a fallacious appeal to authority.
What paper are you reading?
I was reading the linked paper:
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...mortality_risk

"Vaccination correlated negatively with mortality 6-20 weeks post-injection, while vaccination predicted all-cause mortality 0-5 weeks post-injection in almost all age groups and with an age-related temporal pattern consistent with the US vaccine
rollout. Results from fitted regression slopes (p<0.05 FDR corrected) suggest a US national average VFR of 0.04% and higher VFR with age (VFR=0.004% in ages 0-17 increasing to 0.06% in ages >75 years), and 146K to 187K vaccine-associated US deaths between February and August, 2021. Notably, adult vaccination increased ulterior mortality of unvaccinated young (<18, US; <15, Europe)."

The paper does not report "6 figure jabbie deaths in America alone".

Of course there are reasons to be concerned with the current situation. But making things up to support a position does more to weaken the position than it does to strengthen it.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
This thread was based on trying to conflate those with covid mRNA vaccines with a baseless statement.
Lmfao….always with the deflection with this guy. But here ya go. Now we can get back to talking about the horrible track record of pharmaceutical companies and the bureaucracies that supposedly oversee them.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/am...vid/ar-AANjRHh
People with a PhD are the most hesitant when it comes to getting the Covid-19 vaccine, according to a paper by researchers from Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh.
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