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post 1654805803 01-22-2022, 05:30 PM
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Is It Over? Weinstein & Martenson Compare Notes

ETA: Sunday bump; check out excess mortality vs. covid mortality in post #10.

Barely started this myself, but I really like both men and how they explore and attempt to interpret events.

Dr. Bret Weinstein:PhD in Biology from the University of Michigan; specialized in evolutionary biology.

Dr. Chris Martenson:PhD in Pathology then went to get an MBA at Cornell; worked at Pfizer, later in another pharma related business. Started a blog, then created his "Crash Course" [where I know him from].

https://www.peakprosperity.com/crashcourse/



They had some technical difficulties at the start so I have this set to begin when the problem was fixed.

Cliffs So Far:

- they agree that though the narrative seems to be collapsing due to Omicron we shouldn't assume that government will not continue to do unreasonable things

- Chris recently tested positive for covid and says that he will not go to the hospital if he is seriously ill as he knows his hospital is one that is only treating with remdesivir
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post 1654805893 01-22-2022, 05:31 PM
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its been over for a year and a half for anyone with an iq above 25
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92
its been over for a year and a half for anyone with an iq above 25
Yeah, but they are talking about government and big business.

ATMBret says that he is concerned that the entire incident will be covered up when instead what should happen is an investigation of what happened [lab enhancement of a virus? poor public health choices] and a plan to prevent such a thing from happening again.

Chris follows upwith his take that if "they get away with it" then they will probably do it again as there was a lot of power usurped and billions of dollars in profits made.
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They had me worried early 2021. When all the sports leagues were shuttering, it felt like it was something serious, because the greed of these organizations to lose an entire year of profit just seemed to legitimize everything.
There were also few propaganda videos from China with people just collapsing in the street. Of course, there are REAL videos of people collapsing and clutching their chests now, and it's from the vaccine, but those don't have everyone panicked.
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Cheers for sharing, will listen now.

I just finished listening to the latest Dark Horse podcast, it is honestly surreal to be living through this right now. Pretty much every one I talk to IRL is still obsessed with the vaccines and lockdowns - even as the narrative crumbles in the world outside Australia.

No fkn idea what's going to happen next, but it has been an interesting start to 2022. I am not ruling out civil unrest at this point, we are in a narrative void which someone will need to take control of.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel
They had me worried early 2021. When all the sports leagues were shuttering, it felt like it was something serious, because the greed of these organizations to lose an entire year of profit just seemed to legitimize everything.
There were also few propaganda videos from China with people just collapsing in the street. Of course, there are REAL videos of people collapsing and clutching their chests now, and it's from the vaccine, but those don't have everyone panicked.
I remember the NBA was the first to shut down in March 2020, that's when I realized there was something serious going down. In hindsight, it was the biggest propaganda campaign in history. I think the below is probably closest to reality at this point (taken from Michael P Senger's "Snake Oil":
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The courts deferred to the politicians

Politicians deferred to the 'health advice' (NIH in U.S, Chief Health Officers in Australia)

Health advice deferred to the W.H.O

W.H.O deferred to China

China deferred to Xi

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I think the aftermath of this will be the western world will realize how much the CCP has its' tentacles around, and is in control of, every single institution.

The movie "Life" comes to mind, where that alien parasite infects the space crew and controls their thoughts. Totalitarianism is a parasite that is taking over the world.

The WHO are sock puppets, Western politicians (Macron, Trudeau, Ardern, Merkel, Rutte etc.) are traitors/sock puppets, the media and Big Tech are distributing propaganda and censoring dissent on behalf of the CCP.

I think the endgame may be Fangkong, or the world turns into Xinjiang province with Uyghur muslims who are "sick with thoughts" and need to be quarantined and medically improved to cure them of their "thought disease".
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op the govt is only talking about it being over now cause the party that pushed for unlimited powers during this has awful polling #s going into the elections this november.

they see that forcing children to get the shot, forcing ppl to wear masks all day is a losing strategy. now they wanna act like yeah its ending...lol yeah ok. **** them and we should NOT forget what they have done.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Chris follows upwith his take that if "they get away with it" then they will probably do it again as there was a lot of power usurped and billions of dollars in profits made.
yup. it's pretty clear the corruption runs deep

but that's what i've been saying. majority of the population has gotten vaccinated. why would they let up when people have shown they are willing to comply? literally said, it seems like they'll push for more

maybe people will step up and deny more variants though

oh and i'm fully expecting the propaganda to come out for the libs when mid-terms come around

they're def. gonna do something. as im pretty sure right now people show they're fed up with dems and kinda want to support republicans
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In to watch later
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92
op the govt is only talking about it being over now cause the party that pushed for unlimited powers during this has awful polling #s going into the elections this november.

they see that forcing children to get the shot, forcing ppl to wear masks all day is a losing strategy. now they wanna act like yeah its ending...lol yeah ok. **** them and we should NOT forget what they have done.
Sort of the point. From the video:

- worried that the new narrative will be something like "well it's endemic now, get your annual covid vax" when what should happen is a real investigation of what happened to prevent it occurring again

- talk around how extreme the manipulation of the public narrative has been via pushing the chosen message and ignoring any data that is detrimental to their story up to and including fudging numbers and hiding data from public view

- the people most able and qualified to deal with the crisis by analyzing the information were shoved to the edge and shut down/smeared

The guys give a shout out toDr. Jonathan Campbell [pro vax] from the UKand whorecently revealed the number of people who died FROM COVID for England and Wales was a bit over 17,000.
13 March 2020 to 7 January 2022, England and Wales

- 127,704 excess deaths above the five-year average

- Total deaths from covid alone, 17,371

13,597 were 65 or over

3,774 were under 65


110,000 Excess Deaths Were NOT Due To COVID
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